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Outrage Growing After Teen Killed By Calumet City Cops

There are 45 comments on the CBS Local story from Feb 2, 2012, titled Outrage Growing After Teen Killed By Calumet City Cops. In it, CBS Local reports that:

Stephon Watts, 15, was shot and killed by Calumet City police officers on Feb. 1, 2012.

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Michelle

United States

#1 Feb 2, 2012
That not right!..over a butter knife?? The kid had autisum..! This made me cry
Prexioxa

United States

#2 Feb 2, 2012
Your right this was so wrong in many ways. We are so offended as a community. The police doesn't solve any cases. They don't help with the gang problems. Our houses constantly get robbed. Our loved ones get killed and the cases just go cold. What the hell do we pay taxes for??? The Calumet City Department must be investigated!!!!
tom

Faribault, MN

#4 Feb 3, 2012
Nazi jackbooted thugs in this nation are out of control.....Everyone needs to start carrying guns....When cops go to far take them out.
Sonia

Chicago, IL

#5 Feb 3, 2012
I was @ the ER when this young mans mother came in there... Screaming and yelling " they shot my baby".. I am a single mother of son who has autism.. I begain to cry as soon I was informed that this victim had autism...as soon as I was discharged from the ER I rushed home and hugged my 10year old..my heart goes out to this family.. And I want to send a message to those who do not understand children with Autism are special and they are just like you and I, so the next time you stare or make a stupid comment about them, look in the mirror and remeber god doesn't like ugly!!! Cause you really look stupid saying something ignorant about special need children/adults....
Sad4DaBaby

Midlothian, IL

#6 Feb 3, 2012
Sonia wrote:
I was @ the ER when this young mans mother came in there... Screaming and yelling " they shot my baby".. I am a single mother of son who has autism.. I begain to cry as soon I was informed that this victim had autism...as soon as I was discharged from the ER I rushed home and hugged my 10year old..my heart goes out to this family.. And I want to send a message to those who do not understand children with Autism are special and they are just like you and I, so the next time you stare or make a stupid comment about them, look in the mirror and remeber god doesn't like ugly!!! Cause you really look stupid saying something ignorant about special need children/adults....
Nobody is saying anything ignorant about him being autistic. We're treating him like everyone else. Like you said, "children with Autism are special and they are just like you and I" You and I would also be shot for cutting an officer with a knife. Mothers of autistic children should know their needs, and take care of them.
reallycantsee

United States

#7 Feb 3, 2012
Sad4DaBaby wrote:
<quoted text>Nobody is saying anything ignorant about him being autistic. We're treating him like everyone else. Like you said, "children with Autism are special and they are just like you and I" You and I would also be shot for cutting an officer with a knife. Mothers of autistic children should know their needs, and take care of them.
Your insinuation that this child was not being taken care of is unfortunate. You have no idea what this family did or didn't do. They did call the police for help and ended up with a dead child. I feel sad for that baby too.
scooter

El Dorado Springs, MO

#8 Feb 3, 2012
another one bites the dust
Ken

Dolton, IL

#9 Feb 4, 2012
I can't believe that we are choosing who should have the right live or be hurt. Do you think the officers should have risk dying in the line of duty over a young man that had a history of violence and potential to kill? The article states that the police were called at the house prior where the young man threatened police with a knife. Are the police supposed to react differently if we find out someone has autism or another mental disorder? The threat of getting killed by someone is no different from a person with or without some kind of mental disorder. The police don't come to work ever day hoping to hurt or kill someone. The police were called at that home and what happened was unfortunate, but these things happen. I wish some of you with your negative comments about the police would join the police force and make a difference. If you are all as passionate about how bad police are, well show everyone what you got. I would have loved to see how one of you would have reacted being corned by a violent young man wielding a knife at you. Maybe you would have been a true hero and let the young man kill you. I'm sure your family would be proud to see their mother or father lying in a casket for sacrificing their life for autism. Your children would be so proud as they walk through this world without a mother or father.
John caliendo Plainfield

Romeoville, IL

#10 Feb 4, 2012
There is no possible reason these two bonehead cops can come up with to justify killing that boy. Calumet city has always been an armpit of the chicago suburbs. The cops there have always been a bunch of trigger happy cowboys. With idiots like this patrolling the streets they need to be fired. The state police need to get out there and clean the mess up at the police dept. Start off by firing the tool over there that calls himself the chief of police. Followed by the mayor!! Yes the mayor! Hes the idiot that will allow the two idiots who shot that boy to carry a gun again. Calumet City police dept. Sworn to serve protect and send our mentally challanged citizens to the morgue looking like swiss cheese! There is your new sloagan you knuckel heads
Ken

Dolton, IL

#11 Feb 4, 2012
John caliendo Plainfield wrote:
There is no possible reason these two bonehead cops can come up with to justify killing that boy. Calumet city has always been an armpit of the chicago suburbs. The cops there have always been a bunch of trigger happy cowboys. With idiots like this patrolling the streets they need to be fired. The state police need to get out there and clean the mess up at the police dept. Start off by firing the tool over there that calls himself the chief of police. Followed by the mayor!! Yes the mayor! Hes the idiot that will allow the two idiots who shot that boy to carry a gun again. Calumet City police dept. Sworn to serve protect and send our mentally challanged citizens to the morgue looking like swiss cheese! There is your new sloagan you knuckel heads
You must not have a brain.. I wonder if you had a gun in your hand and a 5'11 220lbs "child" ran towards you wielding a knife? Would you say, "Oh he's mentally challenged, I'll just let him take my life". Wake up! Stop living in a dream world. Everyone thinks cops have all this special training to take away knives and guns from people without anyone getting hurt. Stop living in a fantasy world.. Again, you can talk all the crap you want until you wear those cops shoes that you probably don't have enough guts to wear in the first place.
John caliendo Plainfield

Romeoville, IL

#12 Feb 5, 2012
No Ken i am not a cop. Or for that matter would i ever want to be one not because i dont have guts. I have an expensive home and family to support. I couldnt support a fish tank on a cops salary. As far as the two boneheads who shot the kid. One question; why so many times? And all in the chest. The kill zone. Seems like they do have special training and skills they used that day on that young boy!!
kdkd

United States

#13 Feb 5, 2012
Ken wrote:
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You must not have a brain.. I wonder if you had a gun in your hand and a 5'11 220lbs "child" ran towards you wielding a knife? Would you say, "Oh he's mentally challenged, I'll just let him take my life". Wake up! Stop living in a dream world. Everyone thinks cops have all this special training to take away knives and guns from people without anyone getting hurt. Stop living in a fantasy world.. Again, you can talk all the crap you want until you wear those cops shoes that you probably don't have enough guts to wear in the first place.
Maybe if you actually read the story you would know that these officers KNEW who they were up against before they walked in the door. They KNEW what he had in his hand. Why weren't they prepared? Why didn't they have a taser? Why shoot to kill? So many other options, and they chose the one to shoot to kill this boy. WAKE UP! Stop living in a dream world. If officers are unable to handle these types of situations without resorting to shooting someone in the HEAD, they have NO BUSINESS wearing a uniform.
John caliendo Plainfield

Romeoville, IL

#14 Feb 5, 2012
kdkd wrote:
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Maybe if you actually read the story you would know that these officers KNEW who they were up against before they walked in the door. They KNEW what he had in his hand. Why weren't they prepared? Why didn't they have a taser? Why shoot to kill? So many other options, and they chose the one to shoot to kill this boy. WAKE UP! Stop living in a dream world. If officers are unable to handle these types of situations without resorting to shooting someone in the HEAD, they have NO BUSINESS wearing a uniform.
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You get it. Exactly what im getting at. If these cops dont have the self defense training Dont put them on the streets definatly dont send them to domestic disturbance calls. Anyone can take a two year class and become a cop. I say fire em all. Lets put our soldiers returning from the war on the streets as cops. They have the self defense training and mental skills to handle out of control kids without popping them full of bullets!! Or should i say the courage to fight Maybe then this kid could have been taken down with the minimum force nessesary to control the situation. Emptying a clip in the kid is a cowards way out.
TDubb

Dolton, IL

#15 Feb 8, 2012
The cops in Calumet City are a joke. They have no GUTS when it comes to drug dealers or gangbangers. And the mayor is just as bad. She need to stay in Indiana. There's a reason why people call it Cal Shitty!
Real World Tactics

Oak Forest, IL

#16 Feb 8, 2012
John caliendo Plainfield wrote:
<quoted text>.
You get it. Exactly what im getting at. If these cops dont have the self defense training Dont put them on the streets definatly dont send them to domestic disturbance calls. Anyone can take a two year class and become a cop. I say fire em all. Lets put our soldiers returning from the war on the streets as cops. They have the self defense training and mental skills to handle out of control kids without popping them full of bullets!! Or should i say the courage to fight Maybe then this kid could have been taken down with the minimum force nessesary to control the situation. Emptying a clip in the kid is a cowards way out.
John , I as a police officer and a member of the military would like to educate you on some of your comparisons of police officers and military personnel.
We are taught(police officers) some self defense tactics when we attend the academy. That is it. Once we leave the academy very little time is devoted to self defense. There are many reasons why. The biggest is money.
In order to teach a course in self defense you would have to pull officers off the streets. Well guess what that is less protection and then the citizens would complain where are the cops. Another reason is money again. You have to pay instructors to teach the classes or pay an enrollment fee to have the officers attend the class.
You see it is very easy for people like you to sit back in your chair think about the situation with very limited real knowledge of the incident and then make a decision. In a perfect world police officers would be afforded the same courtesy. Unfortunately that is not the case. We have seconds to make a life and death decision.
Another big leader of misinformation is television. They have the police disarm a man with a knife or gun all of the time. That is Hollywood folks. Reality is if a person is with in 7-10 feet of you with a knife the only way to disarm him and end the threat is to shoot the offender. I am sorry the offender in this case has autism. The fact remains the person with autism can kill a person just as easily with a knife as a person without autism.
For the record the person was shot twice in the chest. This is the training all police receive. Once again in Hollywood they shoot the hand of the offender and knock the knife out of his hand. In the real world you are taught to shoot at the mass of the body so you have a better chance at hitting the offender and stopping the threat.
Military personnel are taught the same exact way with one exception. They double tap meaning shoot twice. If military were on the scene the offender would have been shot four times in the chest due to the fact two officers and double tapping. There was no clip emptied into this kid either you are lying or very misinformed.
Remember the officers took someone’s life. In Hollywood the cops go out back on the streets. Once again that is Hollywood not the real world. The officers did not show up at work and say today I am going to shoot someone. It is very traumatic to the officers. I am sorry the person was killed. But every day officers are killed or severely hurt because they hesitated to take proper action across America. The officers have a right to protect themselves and all citizens from being hurt.
God bless everyone involved there is no winners in this case.
Proud Police Officer

Highland, IN

#18 Feb 8, 2012
Very well said. I too am a police officer. I work for the Chicago police department. I have been involved in two police shootings. I know a certain segment of society hate the police. I plead for the public to know the vast majority care deeply about their job and the people they serve. Yes we have some bad apples like every other profession but the vast majority of police officers deeply care about their job and the community and people they serve.
It amazes me how people expect police officers to be counselors, psychologists, psychiatrists, mentors and problem solvers for everyone's problems. The same people mock the education level it takes to be a police officer. It just amazes me how little respect some people have for police officers. We are people too. We make mistakes. We try to make the right decisions all the time and yes sometimes those decisions are not the right ones. But remember, we have split seconds to make decisions. When there is a threat of some on taking a life we have to take some type of action.
Often the families who call us criticize us for handling a problem they called us for end up suing us for the way we handled the situation. I have to ask this. Why did you call us? They say well you have been here before. You know how he/she is. We;; it may have not been the same officers. And your family member may have not acted the same way.
You criticize us for handling your family member a certain way . My question to you is, you know the family or person you called us for. You know them better than anyone. You live with them. Why didn’t you handle the problem? You call us and when we show up officer who does not know your family member or friend ,handle the situation a certain way you complain. Remember you know the person personally we don't. why did you not handle the situation the way you thought the police officers should have?
Police officers have their hands tied, We do not know the person intimately like you. Remember if they do not interact with you they certainly will not interact with us.
No police officer wants to take another humans life. Trust me it is a very difficult situation to deal with. We now have police officers hesitating should I act or not and they are being hurt or worse killed, We have officers who hesitate because they are worried they will be sued and either they are injured or killed or someone else is. We have families to go home to. I am sorry but when a mentally disturbed person threatens your life or mine it is my job to end the threat. Because if I did end the threat and you were hurt or worse your family would sue me for not handling that situation the way you would have wanted it to end.. And remember we have families to go home to that depend on us also.
I love when we bring the press into our training facility and put them through the shoot don't shoot simulator. They really learn just how difficult of a job it is.
Proud Police Officer

Highland, IN

#19 Feb 8, 2012
Honestly wrote:
Cave n!@@ers with badges are nothing but racist thugs. Hasn't changed since the likes of the mayonnaise monkey bull Conner. These neanderthal n!@@ers didn't kill the cave ape in Washington state that hacked his two children to death and blew up the house. He also killed his missing wife. Josh Powell was his name. Piss gum apes are always treated with care, just like the knuckle dragging cave n!@@er that killed eight people at the beauty salon in Seal Beach California, he was heavily armed and they took this animal alive.
Whoever you are you need serious medical help. You see people we have to deal with people like this and make spilt second decisions.
Great Point

Sanford, FL

#20 Feb 8, 2012
Proud Police Officer wrote:
Very well said. I too am a police officer. I work for the Chicago police department. I have been involved in two police shootings. I know a certain segment of society hate the police. I plead for the public to know the vast majority care deeply about their job and the people they serve. Yes we have some bad apples like every other profession but the vast majority of police officers deeply care about their job and the community and people they serve.
It amazes me how people expect police officers to be counselors, psychologists, psychiatrists, mentors and problem solvers for everyone's problems. The same people mock the education level it takes to be a police officer. It just amazes me how little respect some people have for police officers. We are people too. We make mistakes. We try to make the right decisions all the time and yes sometimes those decisions are not the right ones. But remember, we have split seconds to make decisions. When there is a threat of some on taking a life we have to take some type of action.
Often the families who call us criticize us for handling a problem they called us for end up suing us for the way we handled the situation. I have to ask this. Why did you call us? They say well you have been here before. You know how he/she is. We;; it may have not been the same officers. And your family member may have not acted the same way.
You criticize us for handling your family member a certain way . My question to you is, you know the family or person you called us for. You know them better than anyone. You live with them. Why didn’t you handle the problem? You call us and when we show up officer who does not know your family member or friend ,handle the situation a certain way you complain. Remember you know the person personally we don't. why did you not handle the situation the way you thought the police officers should have?
Police officers have their hands tied, We do not know the person intimately like you. Remember if they do not interact with you they certainly will not interact with us.
No police officer wants to take another humans life. Trust me it is a very difficult situation to deal with. We now have police officers hesitating should I act or not and they are being hurt or worse killed, We have officers who hesitate because they are worried they will be sued and either they are injured or killed or someone else is. We have families to go home to. I am sorry but when a mentally disturbed person threatens your life or mine it is my job to end the threat. Because if I did end the threat and you were hurt or worse your family would sue me for not handling that situation the way you would have wanted it to end.. And remember we have families to go home to that depend on us also.
I love when we bring the press into our training facility and put them through the shoot don't shoot simulator. They really learn just how difficult of a job it is.
You made a great point. And you hit it right on the head. The family has obtained an attorney. Its about the money for them. That is the bottom line

Since: Jan 12

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#21 Feb 9, 2012
Great Point wrote:
<quoted text>You made a great point. And you hit it right on the head. The family has obtained an attorney. Its about the money for them. That is the bottom line
You seriously think it's about the money? It's about the fact that their autistic son is dead by the hands of the people they called to help them.
Help is on the way

Midlothian, IL

#22 Feb 9, 2012
WaywardDaughter wrote:
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You seriously think it's about the money? It's about the fact that their autistic son is dead by the hands of the people they called to help them.
They did help. They stopped the threat. Go back and read what the two different police officers posted. They were told it like it is. The real world. Easy for you and I to sit back and make judgement calls from the comfort of our secure home. remember we did not have someone coming at us with a knife.

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