Johnny Robertson’s church of Christ

Johnny Robertson’s church of Christ

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Whitman

Martinsville, VA

#1 Feb 28, 2013
This post is about Johnnys church of Christ. check it out on http://answeringthecoc.wordpress.com/
Whitman

Martinsville, VA

#2 Mar 1, 2013
http://answeringthecoc.wordpress.com/2013/02/...

Johnny Robertson insist that their church [oops I mean place they meet for worship] is not a denomination. They readily admit that the Lord’s people were described by various terms, such as, Christians, saints, firstborn ones, etc., but they cling to one designation – Church of Christ [oops I mean “church of Christ” with a little “c’… that big “C” is too liberal]

Everything that characterizes the denominations of the world (those claiming to follow Christ), are found in the church of Christ: Corporate body, organization, membership, Church buildings, clergy, worship-services, etc.

Johnny maintains that it would be scriptural to use all of the above designations, but in practice he utilizes only one. Look for the sign over the door or in front of the building and you will find their name; advertisements in the paper or in the phone book carry their name; many congregations send out advertising brochures which carry their name; and many use letterheads and envelopes that bear their name – church of Christ. This is to distinguish them from the Church of God, the Baptist Church the Presbyterian Church, the Methodist Church, the Catholic Church, etc. It is inconsistent and hypocritical to contend that the church of Christ was not a denomination, when in fact it was – like all the rest.

Johnny is narrow-minded and bigoted, thinking that only those of his particular brand of church of Christ-ism will be saved. In fact, there are over twenty different sects among those wearing the church of Christ name and claiming to be the “one true Church.” They usually do not fellowship with each other. Often, they will not call on a person from another church of Christ to lead in prayer, lead the congregational singing, or take part in the “services” in some other way. Some preachers will go so far as to insist that a person desiring membership be re-baptized if they come from another type of church of Christ. I suppose if someone starts their own church, they can establish their own rules and regulations to govern it – right Johnny?

God never intended any man, or group of men, to hold a position “OVER” others, and to exercise special authority by which to “RULE” them. Johnny should SERVE and TEACH others, being EXAMPLES of sonship to God. He should do all this without a dispensation of “divine authority.”

According to Jesus, not even the apostles would “exercise authority” over the people of God.“Ye know that the rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their great ones exercise authority over them. NOT SO SHALL IT BE AMONG YOU”(Matt. 20:25-26). This is very significant. If Jesus emphatically withheld “divine authority” from the apostles, surely, He did not delegate it Johnny Robertson.

Johnny Robertson is obsessed with the desire for power. He desires to control every detail of his group’s activities, as well as tell each individual where and when they can “go to church”; how they should dress for the assembly; and what they can do in their work and play.

Johnny’s congregation relies on him to do everything,“because, after all, he is getting paid to do the work.” Johnny loves the lime-light and allows brethren to hold him up on a pedestal. He calls all the shots; does most of the teaching and preaching, debates: and everyone insists “we do not have a clergy system.” Does this sound inconsistent to you?
Cousin Frybaby

Buffalo, NY

#3 Mar 1, 2013
Man, Whitman, it seems like maybe you work for Johnny Robertson, the way you keep pushing his name out there like you're trying to draw attention to the man. Johnny Robertson and his cronies have been neutered, and there's no need to continue talking about them as if they're any sort of real threat to the community.

Did he hire you as his PR agent? No press is the only kind of bad press after all.
ComputerGeek

Martinsville, VA

#4 Mar 1, 2013
I totally agree on this. Bad publicity often backfires and draws in more flies to the pile of dung. As you said,“No press is the only kind of bad press after all”

I believe that other blog site was also a work of JR. Who was Nathan? Nobody knows. That site only helped JR get more funding. Then comes Randy on Topix and creates a million freaking post under a million freaking names which had me thinking he was working for JR too. I know for sure that Randy is not with them. He has Jason on his Facebook as well as other things that prove otherwise. I noticed too that he removed everything about JR from his SWTBS blog. Nathan obviously was a work of JR.

Whitman, if you are listening > take notes. If you really ARE against JR and his teachings, by all means, confront their teachings but stop giving JR the lime light. You are only feeding the hogs slop.
The Lord is God

Ireland

#8 Mar 1, 2013
ComputerGeek wrote:
I totally agree on this. Bad publicity often backfires and draws in more flies to the pile of dung. As you said,�No press is the only kind of bad press after all�
I believe that other blog site was also a work of JR. Who was Nathan? Nobody knows. That site only helped JR get more funding. Then comes Randy on Topix and creates a million freaking post under a million freaking names which had me thinking he was working for JR too. I know for sure that Randy is not with them. He has Jason on his Facebook as well as other things that prove otherwise. I noticed too that he removed everything about JR from his SWTBS blog. Nathan obviously was a work of JR.
Whitman, if you are listening > take notes. If you really ARE against JR and his teachings, by all means, confront their teachings but stop giving JR the lime light. You are only feeding the hogs slop.
A spirit of correction shall come upon you and all your family.

And shall depart only at my word.

It will take a while for you to see it. When you do. You come here and post an apology for your disrespect of the Lord's Anointed. Then and only then shall it shall depart from your family.

If your apology is accepted.

Thus saith the Lord.
William

Warrior, AL

#9 Mar 14, 2013
Johnny is in for a real big surprise one day.
nobody

Morehead, KY

#10 Mar 14, 2013
Whitman wrote:
http://answeringthecoc.wordpre ss.com/2013/02/28/johnny-rober tsons-church-of-christ/
Johnny Robertson insist that their church [oops I mean place they meet for worship] is not a denomination. They readily admit that the Lord’s people were described by various terms, such as, Christians, saints, firstborn ones, etc., but they cling to one designation – Church of Christ [oops I mean “church of Christ” with a little “c’… that big “C” is too liberal]
Everything that characterizes the denominations of the world (those claiming to follow Christ), are found in the church of Christ: Corporate body, organization, membership, Church buildings, clergy, worship-services, etc.
Johnny maintains that it would be scriptural to use all of the above designations, but in practice he utilizes only one. Look for the sign over the door or in front of the building and you will find their name; advertisements in the paper or in the phone book carry their name; many congregations send out advertising brochures which carry their name; and many use letterheads and envelopes that bear their name – church of Christ. This is to distinguish them from the Church of God, the Baptist Church the Presbyterian Church, the Methodist Church, the Catholic Church, etc. It is inconsistent and hypocritical to contend that the church of Christ was not a denomination, when in fact it was – like all the rest.
Johnny is narrow-minded and bigoted, thinking that only those of his particular brand of church of Christ-ism will be saved. In fact, there are over twenty different sects among those wearing the church of Christ name and claiming to be the “one true Church.” They usually do not fellowship with each other. Often, they will not call on a person from another church of Christ to lead in prayer, lead the congregational singing, or take part in the “services” in some other way. Some preachers will go so far as to insist that a person desiring membership be re-baptized if they come from another type of church of Christ. I suppose if someone starts their own church, they can establish their own rules and regulations to govern it – right Johnny?
God never intended any man, or group of men, to hold a position “OVER” others, and to exercise special authority by which to “RULE” them. Johnny should SERVE and TEACH others, being EXAMPLES of sonship to God. He should do all this without a dispensation of “divine authority.”
According to Jesus, not even the apostles would “exercise authority” over the people of God.“Ye know that the rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their great ones exercise authority over them. NOT SO SHALL IT BE AMONG YOU”(Matt. 20:25-26). This is very significant. If Jesus emphatically withheld “divine authority” from the apostles, surely, He did not delegate it Johnny Robertson.
Johnny Robertson is obsessed with the desire for power. He desires to control every detail of his group’s activities, as well as tell each individual where and when they can “go to church”; how they should dress for the assembly; and what they can do in their work and play.
Johnny’s congregation relies on him to do everything,“because, after all, he is getting paid to do the work.” Johnny loves the lime-light and allows brethren to hold him up on a pedestal. He calls all the shots; does most of the teaching and preaching, debates: and everyone insists “we do not have a clergy system.” Does this sound inconsistent to you?
Keep the pressure on Whitman. Every time you post Johnny's boys come on here telling you to be quiet. It's getting to somebody.
William

Opelika, AL

#11 Mar 15, 2013
It amazes me that these people insist on "obeying" Acts 2:38, yet none of them obey Acts 2:45.

When have you ever seen a CoC congregation sell out everything they own and have all things common?

Picking and choosing verses, these people always do.
Jparker

United States

#12 Sep 29, 2013
Well, do you believe the Bible? It IS amazing. Acts 2:38 was a commandment. And the reaction of the Christians was amazing. Verses 39-45 tells us how enthusiastic they were. How they chose to live we don't know if it was permanent or temporary. But we do know vs. 45 was NOT A COMMANDMENT AS WAS VS. 38.
Dave P

Morehead, KY

#13 Sep 29, 2013
Jparker wrote:
Well, do you believe the Bible? It IS amazing. Acts 2:38 was a commandment. And the reaction of the Christians was amazing. Verses 39-45 tells us how enthusiastic they were. How they chose to live we don't know if it was permanent or temporary. But we do know vs. 45 was NOT A COMMANDMENT AS WAS VS. 38.
Welcome there jparker. Seems we have another Texas-style coc member. You might not want to play the "commandment" game, because the coc disregards certain commandments the apostles explicitly gave. Holy kiss anyone? Who gave the coc authority to change it to the holy handshake; explain it isn't really a command; say it's just culture; etc.

COC interpretation leaves a lot to be desired.

Since: May 10

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#14 Sep 30, 2013
Dave P wrote:
<quoted text>
Welcome there jparker. Seems we have another Texas-style coc member. You might not want to play the "commandment" game, because the coc disregards certain commandments the apostles explicitly gave. Holy kiss anyone? Who gave the coc authority to change it to the holy handshake; explain it isn't really a command; say it's just culture; etc.
COC interpretation leaves a lot to be desired.
Do you believe an follow that command or do you just bring that up to cause an argument?

Since: May 10

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#15 Sep 30, 2013
William wrote:
It amazes me that these people insist on "obeying" Acts 2:38, yet none of them obey Acts 2:45.
When have you ever seen a CoC congregation sell out everything they own and have all things common?
Picking and choosing verses, these people always do.
Do you believe either of those are commands? If so do you obey them or not?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#16 Sep 30, 2013
William wrote:
Johnny is in for a real big surprise one day.
And that surprise is???
Dave P

Morehead, KY

#17 Sep 30, 2013
JustChristian wrote:
<quoted text>Do you believe an follow that command or do you just bring that up to cause an argument?
Bring it up to hopefully make us think about how we read and interpret our Bibles.
Dave P

Morehead, KY

#18 Sep 30, 2013
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/martinsville-...

Remember this classic, how you tried to explain away the holy kiss?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#19 Sep 30, 2013
Dave P wrote:
<quoted text>
Bring it up to hopefully make us think about how we read and interpret our Bibles.
You didnt answer. Do you believe those to be commands to be followed or rejected?? Simple question.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#20 Sep 30, 2013
By the way this is where you left the argument before.:) What say ye Command or not?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#21 Sep 30, 2013
Dave P wrote:
http://www.topix.com/forum/cit y/martinsville-va/TGKAI5HCJ8J5 EHGL7
Remember this classic, how you tried to explain away the holy kiss?
I Showed a verse that claimed that the right hand of fellowship was extended explained by Paul. Wonder why they didnt use the Holy Kiss if commanded?
Galatians 2:9

9 And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision

Explaining away????? looks like I posted scripture.
William

Birmingham, AL

#22 Sep 30, 2013
"9 And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision."

So much for that whole "great commission" thingy huh.
William

Birmingham, AL

#23 Sep 30, 2013
JustChristian wrote:
<quoted text>Do you believe either of those are commands? If so do you obey them or not?
If I were a Jew at that Pentecost and heard what Peter said then you can bet that I would have. Those people witnessed the death of their long-prophesied messiah and had a hand in killing him. Peter's exhortation is a murder indictment against the Jews, and he tells them to repent of what they did and own up to it. Repentance for them wasn't some admonition to "stop sinning and get right with the Lord by not sinning anymore," as any hack Church of Christ preacher will try to get you believe regarding what repentance actually is.

But since I am not a Jew, nor was I there at that Pentecost, I would not obey it, since the Acts 2 sermon isn't written to the likes of me. Or you. Or any one else alive today.

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