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#105 Nov 5, 2013
Annoying Proxy wrote:
Annoying Catholicism 101:
1.The Pope is not infallible.
2.We should not worship Mary.
3.Priests cannot forgive sins.
4. Pedophile priests have administered the Eucharist
in the Catholic church all the while denying
communion to saved, baptized, children.
I could go on and on in Post 101 about Annoying Catholicism 101 but I shall refrain and suggest that you follow the money trail.
More Sproul manure for the compost pile.

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#106 Nov 5, 2013
Annoying Proxy wrote:
Have a nice, big, ole, Catholic evening everyone.
Sproul manure.

Since: Jan 10

Royse City

#107 Nov 6, 2013
MarkEden wrote:
<quoted text>Via stulti recta in oculis ejus;
qui autem sapiens est audit consilia.

A fool is ever right to his own thinking; the wise listen to advice.

Proverbs 12:15
Amen to Prov. 12:15.

Now give us the passage that explicitly calls Peter the pope and holy father. Just a couple of them please.

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#108 Nov 6, 2013
HEATH - 72 wrote:
<quoted text>
Amen to Prov. 12:15.
Now give us the passage that explicitly calls Peter the pope and holy father. Just a couple of them please.
You pretend the Church was frozen in time in the first century. That superbly illustrates Proverbs 12:15. Cracks me up!!!

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#109 Nov 6, 2013
HEATH - 72 wrote:
<quoted text>
Amen to Prov. 12:15.
Now give us the passage that explicitly calls Peter the pope and holy father. Just a couple of them please.
First of all you have never given us a name of any member of you community that existed between AD 100 and AD 1700. Why can't you do that? I would love to read what he wrote. I like history.

We all know a Church existed before any NT writings and 350 years before the Bible.

Jesus told his disciples: "He who hears you hears me, and he who rejects you rejects me" (Luke 10:16). The Church, in the persons of the apostles, was given the authority to teach by Christ; the Church would be his representative. He commissioned them, saying, "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations" (Matt. 28:19).

And how was this to be done? By preaching, by oral instruction: "So faith comes from what is heard, and what is heard comes by the preaching of Christ" (Rom. 10:17). The Church would always be the living teacher. It is a mistake to limit "Christ’s word" to the written word only or to suggest that all his teachings were reduced to writing. The Bible nowhere supports either notion.

Further, it is clear that the oral teaching of Christ would last until the end of time. "’But the word of the Lord abides for ever.’ That word is the good news which was preached to you" (1 Pet. 1:25). Note that the word has been "preached"—that is, communicated orally. This would endure. It would not be supplanted by a written record like the Bible (supplemented, yes, but not supplanted), and would continue to have its own authority.

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#110 Nov 6, 2013
All you Prots have services tonite. Was that in Revelation or 2nd Peter? Maybe Acts.

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#111 Nov 6, 2013
Mike_Peterson wrote:
All you Prots have services tonite. Was that in Revelation or 2nd Peter? Maybe Acts.
Mostly only Baptists and direct descendants of the Baptist Church like the Church of Christ denomination do that.

Since: Jan 10

Royse City

#112 Nov 6, 2013
Mike_Peterson wrote:
<quoted text>First of all you have never given us a name of any member of you community that existed between AD 100 and AD 1700. Why can't you do that? I would love to read what he wrote. I like history.

We all know a Church existed before any NT writings and 350 years before the Bible.

Jesus told his disciples: "He who hears you hears me, and he who rejects you rejects me" (Luke 10:16). The Church, in the persons of the apostles, was given the authority to teach by Christ; the Church would be his representative. He commissioned them, saying, "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations" (Matt. 28:19).

And how was this to be done? By preaching, by oral instruction: "So faith comes from what is heard, and what is heard comes by the preaching of Christ" (Rom. 10:17). The Church would always be the living teacher. It is a mistake to limit "ChristÂ’s word" to the written word only or to suggest that all his teachings were reduced to writing. The Bible nowhere supports either notion.

Further, it is clear that the oral teaching of Christ would last until the end of time. "’But the word of the Lord abides for ever.’ That word is the good news which was preached to you" (1 Pet. 1:25). Note that the word has been "preached"—that is, communicated orally. This would endure. It would not be supplanted by a written record like the Bible (supplemented, yes, but not supplanted), and would continue to have its own authority.
Good Scriptures.

Still none that say pope Peter or holy father Peter.

Keep looking. Let us know when you find them.

Since: Jan 10

Royse City

#113 Nov 6, 2013
Catholics worship Mary.

VATICAN CITY, MAY 7, 1997 (VIS)-
The Holy Father dedicated today's general audience to the Virgin Mary, and commented on the words that Jesus spoke from the Cross to St. John: "'Behold your mother',... with which he reveals to the Blessed Virgin the pinnacle of her motherhood."

John Paul II expressed his wish that all might discover in these words of Jesus "the invitation to accept Mary as their mother, responding as true children to her motherly love."

At the moment that Jesus entrusts his mother to St. John, "it is possible to understand the authentic meaning of Marian worship in the ecclesial community ... which furthermore is based on the will of Christ."

Marian worship.

Truth hurts.

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#114 Nov 6, 2013
HEATH - 72 wrote:
<quoted text>
Good Scriptures.
Still none that say pope Peter or holy father Peter.
Keep looking. Let us know when you find them.
Amen: The Bible is not an instruction manual. It is book given to the world by the CC to help her teach.

There were other reasons why the Church created the Bible. You should try and find that out.

Really, why are most of the COCers in Tenn and Texas? I know you don't know. I will find out for you.

Since: Jan 10

Royse City

#115 Nov 6, 2013
Mike_Peterson wrote:
<quoted text>Amen: The Bible is not an instruction manual. It is book given to the world by the CC to help her teach.

There were other reasons why the Church created the Bible. You should try and find that out.

Really, why are most of the COCers in Tenn and Texas? I know you don't know. I will find out for you.
Not an instruction manual???

2 Timothy 3:16
All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,

>>>instruction in righteousness<<<

Interesting.

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#116 Nov 6, 2013
HEATH - 72 wrote:
<quoted text>
Not an instruction manual???
2 Timothy 3:16
All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,
>>>instruction in righteousness<<<
Interesting.
Amen. Alleluia. Praise the lord. But who is going to do the instruction?

Jesus started a Church to do that, not each reader of a book.

The Bible is That/And. Prots think its This/Not.

30
9 Philip ran up and heard him reading Isaiah the prophet and said, "Do you understand what you are reading?"
31
He replied, "How can I, unless someone instructs me?" So he invited Philip to get in and sit with him. Phillip was ordained by the
Apostles. Were you ordained by a successor to the Apostles. Hell no. You have no authority, none.

18
We* ourselves heard this voice come from heaven while we were with him on the holy mountain.
19
h Moreover, we possess the prophetic message that is altogether reliable. You will do well to be attentive to it, as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts.
20
* Know this first of all, that there is no prophecy of scripture that is a matter of personal interpretation,

15
And consider the patience of our Lord as salvation, as our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, also wrote to you,
16
speaking of these things 12 as he does in all his letters. In them there are some things hard to understand that the ignorant and unstable distort to their own destruction, just as they do the other scriptures.
17
Therefore, beloved, since you are forewarned, be on your guard not to be led into the error of the unprincipled and to fall from your own stability.

Who led you to the error?

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#118 Nov 6, 2013
HEATH - 72 wrote:
<quoted text>
Not an instruction manual???
2 Timothy 3:16
All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,
>>>instruction in righteousness<<<
Interesting.
Idiot. Show us where you find the precise instructions for baptism. Show us where you find the precise instructions for communion. Show us where you find the precise instructions for conducting funerals. Show us where you find the precise instructions for conducting weddings. Show us where you find the precise instructions for interior design of worship spaces. Show us where you find the precise instructions for singing Baptist, Methodist, Presbyterian, Lutheran and Anglican hymns.
Mike Peterson

Jackson, MS

#119 Nov 6, 2013
HEATH - 72 wrote:
Catholics worship Mary.
VATICAN CITY, MAY 7, 1997 (VIS)-

At the moment that Jesus entrusts his mother to St. John, "it is possible to understand the authentic meaning of Marian worship in the ecclesial community ... which furthermore is based on the will of Christ."

Marian worship.

Truth hurts.
You are a liar.How can you stand up in front of people wanting heaven and preach your falsehoods and possible sending you and their souls to hell.

Nowhere is the word "worship used". You are sad, pitiful, low end, heretic Prot minister.

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_i...

Like I said before, the Vatican is anal about keeping records.

The quote you lied about is.

"In the light of this entrustment to his beloved disciple, one can understand the authentic meaning of Marian devotion in the ecclesial community. In fact, it places Christians in Jesus’ filial relationship to his mother, putting them in a condition to grow in intimacy with both of them.

The Church’s devotion to the Virgin is not only the fruit of a spontaneous response to the exceptional value of her person and the importance of her role in the work of salvation, but is based on Christ’s will. "
Barnsweb

Canton, OH

#120 Nov 7, 2013
MarkEden wrote:
<quoted text>
Idiot. Show us where you find the precise instructions for baptism. Show us where you find the precise instructions for communion. Show us where you find the precise instructions for conducting funerals. Show us where you find the precise instructions for conducting weddings. Show us where you find the precise instructions for interior design of worship spaces. Show us where you find the precise instructions for singing Baptist, Methodist, Presbyterian, Lutheran and Anglican hymns.
The precise instructions in all things necessary is the word of God. "Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God." Y'shua explicitly taught them, and His words of life are completely in accord with all the prophets before Him.

Do Catholics pretend their "authority" is found in precise instructions for ordinances/services in your services... if so, this equates to the Pharisees rule making and rituals and binding things upon men that God never said - which Y'shua resoundingly nullified as evil.

His words, which are preserved in print in the Bible, form the basis of life and hope - not some man made 'ritual' that brings false hope to those who believe any man and not God.

John 17. He blessed those who believe on Him by their word, which was the word of God they received first from Him and the Set-Apart holy prophets of God. By now it appears you are incapable to come to Him and believe His word that you might live and turn away from the evil ways of the commandments of men. If the Catholic Church teaches the commandments of men that are established by repetition and tradition - your worship is vain - that's what Jesus said.
Barnsweb

Canton, OH

#121 Nov 7, 2013
AENT, Netzari Press LLC

John 19:23-27 - let's see together what the oldest nonCatholicadulterated text says:

"And when the soldiers had nailed Y'shua to the stake, they took hhis garments and made four pieces for each of the soldiers, but his robe was without stitch, woven completely from the top. And they said to one another, "Let us not tear it but let us cast lots for it to determine whose it will be." And the Scripture was fulfilled that said that, "They divided my garments among themselves, and for my clothing they cast a lot." The soldiers did these things.(25) Now at the stake of Y'shua were standing his mother and the sister of his mother and Maryam, that of Qalyopa, and Maryam of Magdala. And Y'shua saw his mother and a disciple whom he loved who was standing there, and he said to his mother, "Woman, beyond your son." And he said to that disciple, "Beyond your mother." And at that hour that disciple took her with him.

John specifically notes what was said was between the three of them - Y'shua, Maryam (his mother), and the disciple John. He didn't say, "Behold the Mother of Elohim!"

As I've said, RCC needs to repent and believe what He said - not what a liar said He said. Add to or take away from His word and you will be found to be a lair. God isn't mocked.
Catholic Guy

Jackson, MS

#122 Nov 7, 2013
Barnsweb wrote:
<quoted text>
The precise instructions in all things necessary is the word of God. "Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God." Y'shua explicitly taught them, and His words of life are completely in accord with all the prophets before Him.
Do Catholics pretend their "authority" is found in precise instructions for ordinances/services in your services... if so, this equates to the Pharisees rule making and rituals and binding things upon men that God never said - which Y'shua resoundingly nullified as evil.
His words, which are preserved in print in the Bible, form the basis of life and hope - not some man made 'ritual' that brings false hope to those who believe any man and not God.
John 17. He blessed those who believe on Him by their word, which was the word of God they received first from Him and the Set-Apart holy prophets of God. By now it appears you are incapable to come to Him and believe His word that you might live and turn away from the evil ways of the commandments of men. If the Catholic Church teaches the commandments of men that are established by repetition and tradition - your worship is vain - that's what Jesus said.
That is what your private interpretation said it means, which is absolutely worthless. Just one opinion of millions with no authority.
Barnsweb

Canton, OH

#124 Nov 7, 2013
HEATH - 72 wrote:
<quoted text>
Not an instruction manual???
2 Timothy 3:16
All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,
>>>instruction in righteousness<<<
Interesting.
Carefully note what Jesus said: "Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God." You know as I that the Bible contains words of God, the Son, angels, demons, Set-Apart prophets and apostles, and all manner of men - good and bad - just and evil. Because it's written in Scripture does not equate to its being the 'word of God'.

Jesus said to live by the words of God - all of them, and Jesus also taught to live by what he declared to be the words God gave him to give to us. "My doctrine is not mine." He said his teachings are the very word of God. Those who heard him teach said he taught with authority. As I study those words, I have to agree with them.

"If they speak not according to the Torah and the Prophets, there is no light in them." We only need to ask one question to know who is of God and who isn't: 2 John 9-11. Are they teaching what Jesus taught and not adding to it or taking away from it?

Believe Jesus and live. Believe Jesus' words and you won't be snared by lies of the devil or any false Christ, angel, apostle, prophet or teacher.

Abide in His words that lead to eternal life.
Barnsweb

Canton, OH

#125 Nov 7, 2013
Catholic Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
That is what your private interpretation said it means, which is absolutely worthless. Just one opinion of millions with no authority.
I spoke what God has clearly and repeatedly said throughout history - show me where God said otherwise, or consider you need to repent of your lawlessness and faithlessness.

My authority is the words of God and His Son. You only have the word and tradition of men - which both have condemned as lies and unable to save you - you are ensnared because you know not the truth. "If you abide in My word, ye are My disciples indeed. And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free."

AENT says any individual can find it without some pretender Church mandating anything else as the truth:

John 8:1 (John 8:1-11 is an addition in the Greek that is not in the original Aramaic, so 8:1 is the same passage as NKJV 8:12);

Now Y'shua spoke with them again and said, "I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will not walk in darkness, but he will find the light of life for himself."

Since: Jan 10

Royse City

#126 Nov 7, 2013
Mike_Peterson wrote:
<quoted text>Amen. Alleluia. Praise the lord. But who is going to do the instruction?

Jesus started a Church to do that, not each reader of a book.

The Bible is That/And. Prots think its This/Not.

30
9 Philip ran up and heard him reading Isaiah the prophet and said, "Do you understand what you are reading?"
31
He replied, "How can I, unless someone instructs me?" So he invited Philip to get in and sit with him. Phillip was ordained by the
Apostles. Were you ordained by a successor to the Apostles. Hell no. You have no authority, none.

18
We* ourselves heard this voice come from heaven while we were with him on the holy mountain.
19
h Moreover, we possess the prophetic message that is altogether reliable. You will do well to be attentive to it, as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts.
20
* Know this first of all, that there is no prophecy of scripture that is a matter of personal interpretation,

15
And consider the patience of our Lord as salvation, as our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, also wrote to you,
16
speaking of these things 12 as he does in all his letters. In them there are some things hard to understand that the ignorant and unstable distort to their own destruction, just as they do the other scriptures.
17
Therefore, beloved, since you are forewarned, be on your guard not to be led into the error of the unprincipled and to fall from your own stability.

Who led you to the error?
Amen to those instructive verses.

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