Kutztown president faces union test

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Faculty union leaders at Kutztown University are moving toward taking a vote of no confidence in President F. Javier Cevallos, saying the quality of education has eroded and the state school's status has ...
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#64
Jan 18, 2008
 
I am in school at Kutztown right now and I was lucky enough to get into all small classes this semester. I think my largest class is 50 people last semester all but one of my classes had atleast 150 people some almost up to 200. One person can not teach ALL of those students and when someone needs help the profs try their best to make their time open for the students and many will stay till ungodly hours to make sure that they can help their students. I have not seen the president at all other then the day that I went to orientation.
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#65
Jan 19, 2008
 
So, just so I understand some of the arguments people are making about the salaries that faculty have.

Here's the link to faculty salaries spelled out in the faculty/management contract:

< http://www.apscuf.com/images/07article22.pdf&... ;

So, what some of you have been saying, just so I get this right, is that if someone works someplace for 25-30 years, is an expert in their field, and has performed their job well, they SHOULD NOT earn over $100,000? Put another way, if you got a job as, say, an engineer or a doctor (people who usually have fewer years of schooling than university faculty, by the way), you think it would be unjust to earn over $100,000 at the end of your career?

So, again to try and follow the logic here...if you earn over (insert amount here) you should give it all away or refuse to accept it?

And, again, to fill out the picture, you think all teachers should basically be missionaries--refusing pay for the "good work" that they do?

Just trying to understand.
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#66
Jan 19, 2008
 
I would like to know if "Joe Wisdow" actually went to Kutztown. First of all, President Cevallos easily makes more then most of the professors. Secondly, to call the professors racist is wrong.(P.S. when using the word racist as a direct noun to refer to a groups it is plural, racists) Minorities are heavily respected at Kutztown, but a President who cannot speak English clearly, who values race and ethnic values over the education of students should be kicked out. I loved my time at Kutztown but I never enjoyed a moment spent with Cevallos. Oh...and P.S. you misspelled necessary.
joe wisdom wrote:
We need to put this in perspective! This teachers Union wanted more money and benefits even when most of the teachers earn more than the president. There are also some staff members who want Cevallos out because they can't live with the idea that finally the PA Higher Education System reached out to a minority who have the necesary skills to run one of the 14 institutions with a strong hand and excellence!
I'm surprised that it took so long for a bunch of racist to find courage to show their true colors. Mr. Gambone just wants to go back to the exclusive German Dutch Club that used to be the KU College!

Since: Dec 07

Schnecksville, PA

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#67
Jan 20, 2008
 
Doing the Math wrote:
So, just so I understand some of the arguments people are making about the salaries that faculty have.
Here's the link to faculty salaries spelled out in the faculty/management contract:
< http://www.apscuf.com/images/07article22.pdf&... ;
So, what some of you have been saying, just so I get this right, is that if someone works someplace for 25-30 years, is an expert in their field, and has performed their job well, they SHOULD NOT earn over $100,000? Put another way, if you got a job as, say, an engineer or a doctor (people who usually have fewer years of schooling than university faculty, by the way), you think it would be unjust to earn over $100,000 at the end of your career?
So, again to try and follow the logic here...if you earn over (insert amount here) you should give it all away or refuse to accept it?
And, again, to fill out the picture, you think all teachers should basically be missionaries--refusing pay for the "good work" that they do?
Just trying to understand.
I think the point of the posting of salaries was a response to the individual posting about the $45k salary of profs. This is not the case of most all profs at Kutztown. I'm guessing that is the very minimum salary at the University. If you do your homework the salary's of Kutztown university profs is in line with most all private university's in the area. University's whose tuition is 3 times the cost of Kutztown's.

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#68
Jan 20, 2008
 
KU Alum wrote:
I would like to know if "Joe Wisdow" actually went to Kutztown. First of all, President Cevallos easily makes more then most of the professors. Secondly, to call the professors racist is wrong.(P.S. when using the word racist as a direct noun to refer to a groups it is plural, racists) Minorities are heavily respected at Kutztown, but a President who cannot speak English clearly, who values race and ethnic values over the education of students should be kicked out. I loved my time at Kutztown but I never enjoyed a moment spent with Cevallos. Oh...and P.S. you misspelled necessary.
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Last time I checked Presidents of companies and organizations make more then their employees. And that is the case at almost every University out there also.
Another Day In Paradise

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#69
Jan 21, 2008
 
Poor Profs wrote:
Alexander W. Pisciotta Kutztown University Professor salary $100,482
Charles F. Roth Jr. Kutztown University Professor salary $100,579
Oskars J. Rieksts Kutztown University Professor salary $101,470
Keshav Gupta Kutztown University Associate Professor salary $101,959
Francis J. Vasko Kutztown University Professor salary $102,007
Ronald W. Stoffey Kutztown University Professor salary $102,287
And the list Goes on....
...So do the strawmen.

I know Prof. Francis Vasko. Prof. Francis Vasko is a friend of mine. And, you sir are no Prof. Vasko.

Prof. Vasko is a world renowned expert on Operations Research. For a university like KU to have a person of his stature on their faculty is a coup, and his salary is a bargain.

His research greatly enhances the university's reputation and he has provided hundreds of lucky students collaboration opportunities that they would be hard pressed to find at the "name" institutions in the area and elsewhere.

There are 500+ profs at KU. I think there's 50 or so who make more than $100K. If you were interested in the welfare of the students, you'd be asking why more weren't making this much.

Save yourself some time and just post the link to the list you're quoting from.

“You call THIS civilization??”

Since: Mar 07

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#70
Jan 22, 2008
 
I think it needs to be said, if it hasn't already, that many, if not most, of KU profs have their doctoral degrees or are working on them. To be hired there now you need to have a doctoral degree or be actively working on one.

So in what profession would you have a doctoral degree and not earn a decent salary?

Evidently, as a college professor in a state institution. Should they really be making so much less than teachers in the public school system who usually have a bachelor's degree -- and then have to put up with the kind of guff I've been reading on these posts?

Whew!

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#71
Jan 22, 2008
 
Or if not less than a public school, then equal to someone with a bachelor's degree? I probably mis-spoke by saying "less than."
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Jan 22, 2008
 
Patrn44 wrote:
I think it needs to be said, if it hasn't already, that many, if not most, of KU profs have their doctoral degrees or are working on them. To be hired there now you need to have a doctoral degree or be actively working on one.
So in what profession would you have a doctoral degree and not earn a decent salary?
Evidently, as a college professor in a state institution. Should they really be making so much less than teachers in the public school system who usually have a bachelor's degree -- and then have to put up with the kind of guff I've been reading on these posts?
Whew!
What you say may be true. But if you check the salary of the private University's in the area you'll find that the salary of the Profs. at Kutztown is equal to most. As for public teachers they probably put in quite a few more hours daily teaching then most any professor in a University. And I don't think you'll be finding many if any public teachers making over a $100,000 a year.
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#73
Jan 22, 2008
 
Equal to Most wrote:
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What you say may be true. But if you check the salary of the private University's in the area you'll find that the salary of the Profs. at Kutztown is equal to most. As for public teachers they probably put in quite a few more hours daily teaching then most any professor in a University. And I don't think you'll be finding many if any public teachers making over a $100,000 a year.
To my knowledge, a full teaching load for a professor at a state affiliated university such as PSU is nine hours per week and many do not teach that because of teaching assistants. KU faculty along with other state system faculty teach twelve hours per week and have no teaching assistants. Twelve hours is what most K to 12 teachers teach in two days. However, teachers are not required to produce scholarly work in their field, hold regular office hours, advise students, perform service work to the university and community, and consult in their area of expertise. The job descriptions are quite different.

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#74
Jan 23, 2008
 
Equal to Most wrote:
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What you say may be true. But if you check the salary of the private University's in the area you'll find that the salary of the Profs. at Kutztown is equal to most. As for public teachers they probably put in quite a few more hours daily teaching then most any professor in a University. And I don't think you'll be finding many if any public teachers making over a $100,000 a year.
University Profs do have to do a lot of research and publishing to keep their jobs. I think, knowing several KU and other university profs, that they spend quite a lot of time on prep work, as Public teachers do, and have students they advise, etc. All in all, I think they earn their bucks.

And I don't mean to say that public school teachers aren't deserving of their hire either. I was just pointing out the difference in their salaries and their level of education.

Lastly, I think it obviously must be said again that ALL MOST ALL OF THOSE WHO EARN MORE THAN 100,000 DOLLARS DO SO BECAUSE THEY TEACH EXTRA CLASSES, SUMMER CLASSES,ETC, THIS IS NOT A BASE SALARY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
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Jan 23, 2008
 
Patrn44 wrote:
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University Profs do have to do a lot of research and publishing to keep their jobs. I think, knowing several KU and other university profs, that they spend quite a lot of time on prep work, as Public teachers do, and have students they advise, etc. All in all, I think they earn their bucks.
And I don't mean to say that public school teachers aren't deserving of their hire either. I was just pointing out the difference in their salaries and their level of education.
Lastly, I think it obviously must be said again that ALL MOST ALL OF THOSE WHO EARN MORE THAN 100,000 DOLLARS DO SO BECAUSE THEY TEACH EXTRA CLASSES, SUMMER CLASSES,ETC, THIS IS NOT A BASE SALARY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
But would you not agree that the salary of Kutztown Profs is in line with most other University's in the area? I know Profs from Muhlenberg and Lehigh and they say this is the case. They say that Kutztown actually pays their Profs quite well compared to some University's. I do agree most earn their money just as anyone else out there that works hard at what they do. Then there are those others that don't but expect just as much as those that do.
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#76
Jan 23, 2008
 
I have been reading the posts on this thread over the last week or so and offer the following: while interesting, it is completely off-topic. This article is not about salaries, it is about calling attention to an administration that has become disconnected from its employees, students, and the surrounding community. Under Dr. McFarland's presidency KU's position, both in academics and community relationships, was considerably better than under the current administration. For the actual stakeholders in this community, this needs to change now.

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#77
Jan 24, 2008
 
Equal to Most wrote:
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But would you not agree that the salary of Kutztown Profs is in line with most other University's in the area? I know Profs from Muhlenberg and Lehigh and they say this is the case. They say that Kutztown actually pays their Profs quite well compared to some University's. I do agree most earn their money just as anyone else out there that works hard at what they do. Then there are those others that don't but expect just as much as those that do.
Yes, I would agree with you that KU profs probably do get paid in equal with other profs and that college profs are worth gold.

The whole salary discussion got going not because salary is an issue with KU profs, but because someone said KU profs were overpaid whiners. That's what I took issue with.
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#78
Feb 5, 2008
 
the best action you students could take right here right now is to do away with the oilexecutive professor who continues to spread massive untruths about the motives of the oil barrons the motive behind the war effort and refuses to be honest about the motives of the "Bush Clan". these are dangerous folks and i would recommend, if you are not in the top 1% of the wealthy in america, you start paying attention to the REAL problems. watch c-span and see first hand what laws are really being passed and not what former oil executives are telling you.
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#79
Feb 5, 2008
 
mr callogrin wrote:
the best action you students could take right here right now is to do away with the oilexecutive professor who continues to spread massive untruths about the motives of the oil barrons the motive behind the war effort and refuses to be honest about the motives of the "Bush Clan". these are dangerous folks and i would recommend, if you are not in the top 1% of the wealthy in america, you start paying attention to the REAL problems. watch c-span and see first hand what laws are really being passed and not what former oil executives are telling you.
I give up. Who is the "oilexecutive professor?"
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#80
Feb 17, 2008
 
Patrn44 wrote:
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Where do you get YOUR facts? NOT a huge stretch of the truth, so happens someone is on medical LOA because of problems sited in the blog. And it's spelled "whiners," not "whinners." Back to school, my dear.
You are right, it is not a "huge stretch of the truth", it is a downright bunch of LIES! Of course, the truth, facts, data, none of that means anything to a bunch of union cronies on a power trip. You and your union "brothers and sisters" make me sick. Professionals? HAH! If the TRUTH were known, you'd all be run out on a rail. But no, you get to spout off your big lying mouths, and the truth remains hidden because the Administration takes the high road. Go get a real job somwhere. And remember, being educated doesn't mean you're intelligent. I only hope that people understand the difference between the "faculty" at KU and the "Faculty Union". There is a huge difference.
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#81
Aug 19, 2008
 
Catholic at KU wrote:
Oh sorry this is the KU folly video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
THe student who was arrested was holding a sign that read "Equal rights for robots"
Dave at KU

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#82
Nov 16, 2009
 
The ignorent protestor want nothing more than confrontation. If they can start a fight by exressing their ignorent Christian beliefs they get free publicity. Personally I think anyone that tries to press their beleifs on someone who doesn't wantto hear it should get their knees broken

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