Do you think Kevin Crane should be se...

Do you think Kevin Crane should be sent to jail?

Created by Wonderin on Nov 5, 2013

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Parent

Saint Louis, MO

#1 Nov 5, 2013
He needed to be taken off the bench NOW
James

Branson, MO

#2 Nov 13, 2013
Yes jail for life
sammy

Kansas City, MO

#3 Nov 13, 2013
Lock up the jury too...your peers!
Neutrino

Columbia, MO

#4 Nov 15, 2013
Kevin Crane not only deliberately tried to ruin the lives of two innocent young men but made a mockery of our justice system. I can't even understand why he hasn't already been charged with felonious prosecutorial misconduct much less stripped of his law license. They should also go after the ex police chief Blinky Boehm for the way his office manipulated a clearly mentally teen into making false confessions.
ach

Mississauga, Canada

#5 Dec 10, 2013
shame on you judge crane
Truth Teller

Waterford, MI

#6 Dec 11, 2013
From Michigan I have had a huge interest in this case for over a year now. So much so that I spent time reading most, if not all of the trial court transcripts and all appeal motions I could find online. I also watched lots of video of court testimony, police interrogation video, and interviews. What I found was very troubling to me to say the least.

Early on when I first watched the Erickson interrogation I could not believe this did not set off a huge red flag to the prosecutor that they may have the wrong person. The interview by the police amounted to a fishing expedition since they had no evidence to suspect Erickson in the first place. The only thing they had was a tip that Erickson had told some people he may have been involved. He knew nothing specific about the crime. The truth is even given his confession, a competent defense attorney would have been able to get him off had he not pled guilty.

Crane knew or should have known all of this. He is an officer of the court who is sworn to uphold the law. He had every reason to believe in the strong possibility that both of these boys were innocent. If he didn't, then he was totally incompetent and should not be practicing law.

In reading the appeals court decision it is apparent that the three judge panel felt very strongly that Crane had acted inappropriately during the course of this prosecution. Based on this there is more than enough reason to launch an investigation into the actions and inactions of Kevin Crane during this prosecution. To ignore the appeals court decision and the facts surrounding it which point toward prosecutorial misconduct who amount to nonfeasance.
Truth Teller

Waterford, MI

#7 Dec 11, 2013
On a further note, the actions of the Missouri Attorney General's office during the course of this appeal, going back to 2012 should be called into question.

Once the evidence was known of the Brady violations and both recantations, the Attorney General should have sided with Ferguson and recommended the verdict be vacated. The Attorney General's arguments were weak at best.

"To suggest, as the State does, that [Ferguson] should be penalized for the State's failure to timely honor its legal disclosure obligations by having [Barbara Trump's interview] entirely disregarded [because it was not earlier discovered] is REPUGNANT to the concept of fundamental fairness."

The above came directly from the appeals court decision. Is anyone else troubled by the court describing the argument the Attorney General's office made as "repugnant"? Synonyms such as repulsive, disgusting and sickening come to mind.

"The State's effort to rationalize its nondisclosure of Trump's December 21, 2004 revelations that he could identify Ferguson and Erickson from their pictures in a newspaper he received from his wife is FACIALLY ABSURD. Trump's ability to identify Erickson and Ferguson was plainly an important, new, material development, whether Trump's identification was a certainty or a possibility."

Another excerpt from the appeals decision. Facially absurd? This was how the court viewed the arguments which the state put forth?

Again I must ask, how could the Attorney General proceed with the fight to keep Ferguson in jail with such overwhelming evidence of prosecutorial misconduct. The norm in a case like this where there is very little or no evidence, the only witnesses have recanted, and there is strong evidence of prosecutorial misconduct, would be for the state to lay down and pull away from it's fight. After all, This is NOT about winning, but it is about justice for the accused. somehow the State of Missouri lost sight of this, as did Kevin Crane.
Looloo

United States

#8 Dec 20, 2013
Man, you guys seem to be under the misguided assumption the legal system is in place to dish out justice or something. No, no. The cops are out there to collect taxes and confiscate "dirty" money so the police department can buy new SWAT toys. The detectives are there to clear cases off their desks. Prosecutors are there so they can rack up as many wins as possible so they can become a judge. And judges are their to get their names in the paper. Then when that's all accomplished, they have barbecues at each other's home and pretend it's not a conflict of interest. Justice. Please, that's so passé.
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Higbee, MO

#9 Dec 23, 2013

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Teacher

Saint Paul, MN

#10 Jan 14, 2014
We teach our children to be honest. This same rule applies to adults. When your choices cause harm to others, their must be a consequence.
Delcia Crockett

Redwood Falls, MN

#11 Mar 8, 2014
The general public that nothing is going to happen to Mr. Crane, unless " a certain party kills him."

The general public is already aware the facts:
(1) Though every innocent clerk in a store can be set-up by a under-aged decoy, Ryan Ferguson's sister has never been arrested and charged with plying Ryan with illegal drinks on the night of the murder;
(2) Though some parents are cited for child abuse and they must face court inquiry for far less than being the parent of a school-aged person out past any reasonable hour on a school night, Bill Ferguson has never been cited or held responsible for that lack o parental responsibility; and
(3) Ryan Ferguson was not released from prison because he was innocent of murder, because a lawyer found a loop hole and used it to get him out.

We still have a convicted killer on the street.

And, if you have ever been on any forum, you know how mean Bill Ferguson and some of the Ferguson family can be. They came after me when I questioned their trying to blame a black man that worked at the Trib at the time the sports editor was murdered. I was bunny on the Trib Board and these people will gang up on you and tear you apart.

Would I want his mother teaching any child, if I could decide? No, I wouldn't. Teachers are fired for less than being the parent of a convicted criminal.

Maybe they will move away, and try to start over somewhere, somewhere where the general public has not grown sick of their meanness.

Thank you.
BoCoMo

Columbia, MO

#12 Mar 9, 2014
Truth Teller, you have said what you and I and thousands of others know to be true. I personally know Bill Ferguson to be a warm and loving, intelligent man of utmost integrity.

I do not know why it is necessary for someone to get on this board and
attack Ryan Ferguson's family.

Ms. Crockett, you spent many months demonizing Ryan and insisting he was guilty of murder. After saying those many terrible things, you now apparently believe Ryan to be innocent. It is hard to understand why you would now turn your hostility toward his father. How hard would you fight if your child were falsely imprisoned for a murder he/she did not commit? From what I have read of your comments, you would fight very hard.

I agree that what we need to do is to find the real killer. Many of us are doing just that, as well as seeking the release of Charles Erickson.

In parting, Ms. Crockett, I encourage you to give it a break. Your diatribe is unbecoming.
Eloiseeroth

Ardsley, NY

#13 Mar 11, 2014
Delcia Crockett wrote:
The general public that nothing is going to happen to Mr. Crane, unless " a certain party kills him."
The general public is already aware the facts:
(1) Though every innocent clerk in a store can be set-up by a under-aged decoy, Ryan Ferguson's sister has never been arrested and charged with plying Ryan with illegal drinks on the night of the murder;
(2) Though some parents are cited for child abuse and they must face court inquiry for far less than being the parent of a school-aged person out past any reasonable hour on a school night, Bill Ferguson has never been cited or held responsible for that lack o parental responsibility; and
(3) Ryan Ferguson was not released from prison because he was innocent of murder, because a lawyer found a loop hole and used it to get him out.
We still have a convicted killer on the street.
And, if you have ever been on any forum, you know how mean Bill Ferguson and some of the Ferguson family can be. They came after me when I questioned their trying to blame a black man that worked at the Trib at the time the sports editor was murdered. I was bunny on the Trib Board and these people will gang up on you and tear you apart.
Would I want his mother teaching any child, if I could decide? No, I wouldn't. Teachers are fired for less than being the parent of a convicted criminal.
Maybe they will move away, and try to start over somewhere, somewhere where the general public has not grown sick of their meanness.
Thank you.
Delcia Crockett, you're still here being a disgusting slanderizing troll? I thought you would have fallen off by now. GROW UP AND GO OUTSIDE.
Eloiseeroth

Ardsley, NY

#14 Mar 11, 2014
BoCoMo wrote:
Truth Teller, you have said what you and I and thousands of others know to be true. I personally know Bill Ferguson to be a warm and loving, intelligent man of utmost integrity.
I do not know why it is necessary for someone to get on this board and
attack Ryan Ferguson's family.
Ms. Crockett, you spent many months demonizing Ryan and insisting he was guilty of murder. After saying those many terrible things, you now apparently believe Ryan to be innocent. It is hard to understand why you would now turn your hostility toward his father. How hard would you fight if your child were falsely imprisoned for a murder he/she did not commit? From what I have read of your comments, you would fight very hard.
I agree that what we need to do is to find the real killer. Many of us are doing just that, as well as seeking the release of Charles Erickson.
In parting, Ms. Crockett, I encourage you to give it a break. Your diatribe is unbecoming.
Delcia Crockett doesn't believe ferguson is innocent. She is stating Ryan got off on a loophole and now that Ryan is free, a murderer is on the street. Meaning that Ryan is the free murderer. This woman is an unbelievable piece of work that will never stop. She has an emotional connection to this case and if I had to guess she's probably either, Rene Hulsholf, Kenny Hulshof, some relation to the Columbia police department, a relative of Kevin crane, a relative of the victim, Kevin crane himself, Kevin cranes ex wife that cheated on him with another woman, Kevin cranes current wife that's just as disgusting as he is, randy boehm or one of CPD former employees.

Since: May 13

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#15 Mar 11, 2014
Not sure who he is!
Delcia Crockett

Redwood Falls, MN

#16 Mar 29, 2014
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Spirit67_ wrote:
Not sure who he is!
I am a she.
I write, compose, am a homemaker, a wife, mother, grandmother and I am not one of those liberated, shack-ups Ms. wh_r_s. I am a what a wh_r_ has called a "kept" woman, and I am glad she tried to insult me that way, because I know what a nut case she is and I am proud to be kept by my husband of many, many years, and by as Covenant with my Lord Jesus Christ, my Heavenly Father. I am a Mrs.
Delcia Crockett

Redwood Falls, MN

#17 Mar 29, 2014
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Eloiseeroth wrote:
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Delcia Crockett doesn't believe ferguson is innocent. She is stating Ryan got off on a loophole and now that Ryan is free, a murderer is on the street. Meaning that Ryan is the free murderer. This woman is an unbelievable piece of work that will never stop. She has an emotional connection to this case and if I had to guess she's probably either, Rene Hulsholf, Kenny Hulshof, some relation to the Columbia police department, a relative of Kevin crane, a relative of the victim, Kevin crane himself, Kevin cranes ex wife that cheated on him with another woman, Kevin cranes current wife that's just as disgusting as he is, randy boehm or one of CPD former employees.
I did not just state it. That is fact. He was not proved innocent. He is a convicted murderer.

I have no emotional connection to the case. I could care less if the Fergusons are never heard of again. Try me and see on that one.:)

I just get inspired to write for common folks, working folks and for the fact that we are all supposed to be equal under the law.

I have never met Mr. Crane. Fact is, Mr. Crane does not know we from any other private citizen. I do respect his ability to stand up for the count in the midst of all threats and intimidations the Fergusons' cult has thrown his way.

That said, Bill Ferguson could have prevented the whole events of that night for his son and his daughter. He could have spared this town his whining and all the meanness the Ferguson cult has comprised since that night.

Fact.
Delcia Crockett

Redwood Falls, MN

#18 Mar 29, 2014
Eloiseeroth wrote:
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Delcia Crockett doesn't believe ferguson is innocent. She is stating Ryan got off on a loophole and now that Ryan is free, a murderer is on the street. Meaning that Ryan is the free murderer. This woman is an unbelievable piece of work that will never stop. She has an emotional connection to this case and if I had to guess she's probably either, Rene Hulsholf, Kenny Hulshof, some relation to the Columbia police department, a relative of Kevin crane, a relative of the victim, Kevin crane himself, Kevin cranes ex wife that cheated on him with another woman, Kevin cranes current wife that's just as disgusting as he is, randy boehm or one of CPD former employees.
I have met Mrs. Hulshof. She probably does not remember me, but I remember her warmth, her niceness and her manners. I saw her only one time, and she came into a gas station where I was working, and used a means to pay that had her name on it. I acknowledged her and asked how Mr. Hulshof was. She said he was already on the farm working that day, and she was on her way there to him, from Columbia. The only way our family is the even remotely connected to the Hulshof family is that my husband taught children of Mr. Francis Hulshof in the Bootheel decades ago and our children attended the parochial school there with Hulshof children. I doubt they would remember us, either, by now. I have never met Mr. Hulshof. Facts.

If you want an opinion, I think Mr. Hulshof would have made a great governor, and I think the only way he lost was not because he would not have, but because of the fallout about Iraq.

Fact: Two of our sons and a daughter-in-law served in Iraq, as early as one of them being an 18-year-old Marine in the Persian Gulf facing off Saddam in the invasion of Kuwait. One son went back as a contractor for Haliburton, and the other one has served there in returning to help rebuild, too. In fact, that son has written a definitive book on Iraq from a first-person vantage point. He is still an officer in the reserves. The name of his scholarly edition is Iraq: Beyond Mission Accomplished.

Opinion: you Ferguson cult seem to have a problem with separating fact from opinion.:)

Opinion:

.
Delcia Crockett

Redwood Falls, MN

#19 Mar 29, 2014
@
Eloiseeroth wrote:
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Delcia Crockett doesn't believe ferguson is innocent. She is stating Ryan got off on a loophole and now that Ryan is free, a murderer is on the street. Meaning that Ryan is the free murderer. This woman is an unbelievable piece of work that will never stop. She has an emotional connection to this case and if I had to guess she's probably either, Rene Hulsholf, Kenny Hulshof, some relation to the Columbia police department, a relative of Kevin crane, a relative of the victim, Kevin crane himself, Kevin cranes ex wife that cheated on him with another woman, Kevin cranes current wife that's just as disgusting as he is, randy boehm or one of CPD former employees.
I am not even remotely connected to Columbia Police Department. I have nothing to do with them. I keep myself safe, and I have a legal and moral property - always have and always will. The Internal Affairs, as admitted by CPD themselves, sanitizes their work before we private citizens even get to see it. I think we should have a place to go to say what is bothering us and the CPD has been known to say, "Don't call us" and someone mean can stalk and harass you to death and lie to them and get away with it, and then an person can con your insurance company by hitting you, crossing a line, and they do not have a license plate on their car and they do not have insurance and can call in a bunch of "witnesses" who were not even there when they hit you, and the police will dismiss you, and write up you as the cause based on that con artist and the "witnesses" and your insurance premiums go up as the con hits for more than $2000.

People like Rios, Sanders and Robert Bennet, etc., make me never want to be an officer, present or future, and make me want to ask for a place where we can go that will not "sanitize" what happens/happened to us.

So, a hardy "No thank you!" on trying to connect me in any way with the police.

That old gray mare ain't what it used to be!

Don't know the former chief, the present chief, not connected with them either, and have no desire to want to ever meet them, or their wives.
I have never met Mr. Crane, but someday I would like to shake his hand
Delcia Crockett

Redwood Falls, MN

#20 Mar 29, 2014
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Looloo wrote:
Man, you guys seem to be under the misguided assumption the legal system is in place to dish out justice or something. No, no. The cops are out there to collect taxes and confiscate "dirty" money so the police department can buy new SWAT toys. The detectives are there to clear cases off their desks. Prosecutors are there so they can rack up as many wins as possible so they can become a judge. And judges are their to get their names in the paper. Then when that's all accomplished, they have barbecues at each other's home and pretend it's not a conflict of interest. Justice. Please, that's so passé.
Thanks for the smile this post brought!

They want to sit/stand around where there is no crime and draw a pay check? Like inside libraries, etc.?

Here in Columbia, there was a picture in the paper about the dune buggies they have purchased to ride around in downtown Columbia. We have no sand dunes in Columbia, and the Police Department is just a few steps from downtown Columbia. We have snow blizzards, hail storms, etc. Dune buggies to ride around the block in? Good grief!

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