OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, State Question 756

Created by CitizenTopix on Oct 11, 2010

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Richard

Tulsa, OK

#34625 Nov 29, 2012
DAN wrote:
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Amen. This has come full circle how many times since this thread was started? But he fools a few who gush over him, LOL. Same scam over and over and still people fall for it!
Yep. The majority knows he's a clown.

Since: Sep 12

Groningen, Netherlands

#34626 Nov 29, 2012
At the slightest smell of blood, the buzzards start to circle.

Since: Jul 10

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#34627 Nov 29, 2012
DustyOutlaw wrote:
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This is beneath you. There are other allegations and I thought you would be the sort to wait it out to see what are the actual facts.
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This is what I have: http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-11-2...

What do you have different?

Since: Apr 10

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#34628 Nov 29, 2012
WMCOL wrote:
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This is what I have: http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-11-2...
What do you have different?
The shooter is claiming the black guys had a shotgun. Not saying they did but IF they did we both know the shotgun disappeared before the cops go there. I'm going to wait to see how it shakes out.

Since: Jul 10

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#34629 Nov 29, 2012
DustyOutlaw wrote:
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The shooter is claiming the black guys had a shotgun. Not saying they did but IF they did we both know the shotgun disappeared before the cops go there. I'm going to wait to see how it shakes out.
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Or if shooter was under influence of alcohol or other drug, fleeing the scene would give him time overnight in the motel in Jacksonvlle and drive to Brevard and wait for law enforcement to come arrest him to allow drugs to leave his system.

As a CCL he knows well after a shooting he will be tested for drugs and if positive his self-defense claim is negated.

Leaving the scene and not reporting shooting looks very bad. Had he reported it as he is required to do any shotgun could have been recovered but of course he would be tested for drugs too.

He and the boys need to get themselves good lawyers and that is not hypothetical.

Since: Apr 10

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#34630 Nov 29, 2012
WMCOL wrote:
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Or if shooter was under influence of alcohol or other drug, fleeing the scene would give him time overnight in the motel in Jacksonvlle and drive to Brevard and wait for law enforcement to come arrest him to allow drugs to leave his system.
As a CCL he knows well after a shooting he will be tested for drugs and if positive his self-defense claim is negated.
Leaving the scene and not reporting shooting looks very bad. Had he reported it as he is required to do any shotgun could have been recovered but of course he would be tested for drugs too.
He and the boys need to get themselves good lawyers and that is not hypothetical.
And the sad part about all this is that if it had of been a black guy shooting a black guy or a white guy shooting a white guy there would not be one tenth the uproar.

Since: Jul 10

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#34631 Nov 29, 2012
DustyOutlaw wrote:
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And the sad part about all this is that if it had of been a black guy shooting a black guy or a white guy shooting a white guy there would not be one tenth the uproar.
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Well, I hate the loud rap music no matter what color, and most of it in my neighborhood is from white boys. I think I can understand the frustration. I feel it everytime I'm confronted with the ear shattering, body vibrating noise of loud rap music. Many times the thought of shooting into one of those cars has crossed my mind.

Since: Apr 10

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#34632 Nov 29, 2012
WMCOL wrote:
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Well, I hate the loud rap music no matter what color, and most of it in my neighborhood is from white boys. I think I can understand the frustration. I feel it everytime I'm confronted with the ear shattering, body vibrating noise of loud rap music. Many times the thought of shooting into one of those cars has crossed my mind.
we agree on this.

Since: Apr 10

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#34633 Nov 29, 2012
Here's one for you love it or leave it hicks.

http://shine.yahoo.com/healthy-living/best-pl...

Since: Sep 12

Groningen, Netherlands

#34634 Nov 30, 2012
WMCOL wrote:
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Well, I hate the loud rap music no matter what color, and most of it in my neighborhood is from white boys. I think I can understand the frustration. I feel it everytime I'm confronted with the ear shattering, body vibrating noise of loud rap music. Many times the thought of shooting into one of those cars has crossed my mind.
I've had the same experience with the music. I even asked the young man in the car to turn it down, he began shouting profanities and turned the music even higher. But even though the splitting headache I had at the time might have made me think about things I would like to do to that young man, I didn't. I had choices and as an adult, I chose the correct one. What choices this guy had will soon be made public.
There are 4 main problems with this story, which to me, the public and a jury will make the shooter look like the bad guy.

1. He just came from a wedding.. the chances that he had been using substances of some kind, whatever they were are clearly in question.
2. He shot "8 or 9 times" into a car which he was standing next to at the time. He told police he was afraid of a gang situation, he was afraid they would all attack him. So why did he not kill the other two in the car? It looks like he was focusing his shots on the one kid in the back seat. The guy was an experienced shooter after all.
3. The victim was a 17 year old kid
4. He drove away instead of reporting the shooting as he knew without a doubt was the proper procedure.

They were at a gas station.. so there were witnesses and possibly video tape. The trial will be interesting.

Since: Apr 10

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#34635 Nov 30, 2012
OkieAbroad wrote:
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I've had the same experience with the music. I even asked the young man in the car to turn it down, he began shouting profanities and turned the music even higher. But even though the splitting headache I had at the time might have made me think about things I would like to do to that young man, I didn't. I had choices and as an adult, I chose the correct one. What choices this guy had will soon be made public.
There are 4 main problems with this story, which to me, the public and a jury will make the shooter look like the bad guy.
1. He just came from a wedding.. the chances that he had been using substances of some kind, whatever they were are clearly in question.
2. He shot "8 or 9 times" into a car which he was standing next to at the time. He told police he was afraid of a gang situation, he was afraid they would all attack him. So why did he not kill the other two in the car? It looks like he was focusing his shots on the one kid in the back seat. The guy was an experienced shooter after all.
3. The victim was a 17 year old kid
4. He drove away instead of reporting the shooting as he knew without a doubt was the proper procedure.
They were at a gas station.. so there were witnesses and possibly video tape. The trial will be interesting.
It will be very interesting. And no you can't go around shooting people for loud music. But I will tell you this. More and more it happens similar to this situation to me. I drive into a gas station and there are the pants sagging, gold grill wanna be thugs blaring music. I pull out and find another gas station. When I get home I send an email to the company that allows these people to hang out blasting their music. I refuse to give them my business because the second you get out of your vehicle they are demanding cigarettes (I don't smoke) and "let me hold a dollah". There is no reason people should be subjected to this constantly.

Since: Sep 12

Groningen, Netherlands

#34636 Nov 30, 2012
DustyOutlaw wrote:
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It will be very interesting. And no you can't go around shooting people for loud music. But I will tell you this. More and more it happens similar to this situation to me. I drive into a gas station and there are the pants sagging, gold grill wanna be thugs blaring music. I pull out and find another gas station. When I get home I send an email to the company that allows these people to hang out blasting their music. I refuse to give them my business because the second you get out of your vehicle they are demanding cigarettes (I don't smoke) and "let me hold a dollah". There is no reason people should be subjected to this constantly.
I don't blame you for going somewhere else and commend you for your actions. I in no way am saying that people just have to put up with harassment. I wouldn't do it and I don't think anyone else should either.

Since: Jul 10

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#34637 Nov 30, 2012
DustyOutlaw wrote:
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It will be very interesting. And no you can't go around shooting people for loud music. But I will tell you this. More and more it happens similar to this situation to me. I drive into a gas station and there are the pants sagging, gold grill wanna be thugs blaring music. I pull out and find another gas station. When I get home I send an email to the company that allows these people to hang out blasting their music. I refuse to give them my business because the second you get out of your vehicle they are demanding cigarettes (I don't smoke) and "let me hold a dollah". There is no reason people should be subjected to this constantly.
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What I've done to these rap blasters in the gas station is put on a Hank williams CD like "Your Cheating Heart" and blast it at max volume. Other times I've used Julius Frank Anthony Kuczynski's(Pee Wee King's)"Tennessee Waltz." That really messes them up. They can't stand it and get going pretty quick.

Since: Sep 12

Groningen, Netherlands

#34638 Nov 30, 2012
WMCOL wrote:
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What I've done to these rap blasters in the gas station is put on a Hank williams CD like "Your Cheating Heart" and blast it at max volume. Other times I've used Julius Frank Anthony Kuczynski's(Pee Wee King's)"Tennessee Waltz." That really messes them up. They can't stand it and get going pretty quick.
Yes, I understand, that would run me off too haha.

Since: Jul 10

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#34639 Nov 30, 2012
OkieAbroad wrote:
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Yes, I understand, that would run me off too haha.
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Haaa, I grew up on that stuff in Southeastern Oklahoma. Love all those Hanks's, Snow, Lockland, Thompson, Smith, Williams and my Uncle used to have picnics in the woods with beer bottles full of kerosene and rags in them lighted strung from the trees for lighting. Big tin bath tubs of home brew and soda pop on ice, Fiddlers playing, people dancing, and a hog and goat cooked in the ground on rocks. For a little boy like me life didn't get any better than that. A litle boy of 5 or 6 I would pretend I was waltzing with my darling as the fiddlers played 'Tennessee Waltz'.

Since: Sep 12

Groningen, Netherlands

#34640 Nov 30, 2012
WMCOL wrote:
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Haaa, I grew up on that stuff in Southeastern Oklahoma. Love all those Hanks's, Snow, Lockland, Thompson, Smith, Williams and my Uncle used to have picnics in the woods with beer bottles full of kerosene and rags in them lighted strung from the trees for lighting. Big tin bath tubs of home brew and soda pop on ice, Fiddlers playing, people dancing, and a hog and goat cooked in the ground on rocks. For a little boy like me life didn't get any better than that. A litle boy of 5 or 6 I would pretend I was waltzing with my darling as the fiddlers played 'Tennessee Waltz'.
LOL love it. Well the way you tell the story it must have been big fun and it sounds like you had a really cool Uncle.

Since: Sep 12

Groningen, Netherlands

#34641 Nov 30, 2012
DustyOutlaw wrote:
Here's one for you love it or leave it hicks.
http://shine.yahoo.com/healthy-living/best-pl...
Hey! NL made the top 10

Since: Jul 10

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#34642 Nov 30, 2012
OkieAbroad wrote:
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LOL love it. Well the way you tell the story it must have been big fun and it sounds like you had a really cool Uncle.
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I thought he was pretty cool, but doing today what he did back then would would result in someone going to prison. It would be prosecuted child abuse today.
Scotty37

Broken Arrow, OK

#34643 Nov 30, 2012
DustyOutlaw wrote:
Here's one for you love it or leave it hicks.
http://shine.yahoo.com/healthy-living/best-pl...
Where the hell is the all mighty U.S.A this country is going to hell. I bet Justaminuits happy as a dog eating another dog when she seen this, Oh well what do you expect when the country is ran by Muslims and Ethiopians.

Since: Apr 10

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#34644 Nov 30, 2012
WMCOL wrote:
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Haaa, I grew up on that stuff in Southeastern Oklahoma. Love all those Hanks's, Snow, Lockland, Thompson, Smith, Williams and my Uncle used to have picnics in the woods with beer bottles full of kerosene and rags in them lighted strung from the trees for lighting. Big tin bath tubs of home brew and soda pop on ice, Fiddlers playing, people dancing, and a hog and goat cooked in the ground on rocks. For a little boy like me life didn't get any better than that. A litle boy of 5 or 6 I would pretend I was waltzing with my darling as the fiddlers played 'Tennessee Waltz'.
This story illustrates what I find so frustrating about Okies. You CAN be "country" and love simple things and have a blast without being a damn hick. You CAN live small town and fish and hunt and be just as much one with nature as you like without be a damn redneck. And You CAN grow up to be a reasonable rational man. As you obviously have. Why can't so many in Oklahoma?

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