OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, Sta...

OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, State Question 756

Created by CitizenTopix on Oct 11, 2010

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Since: Sep 12

Groningen, Netherlands

#34492 Nov 27, 2012
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>Government is only subsidizing in helping people in certain wage brackets pay their ins. premiums. The government is not the healthcare provider. It all goes throught private health insurance companies. The only health insurance the government actually provides is Medicaid. Even with people paying into Medicare the government is responsible in paying medical bills filed with Medicare.
"Government is only subsidizing in helping people in certain wage brackets pay their ins. premiums. The government is not the healthcare provider. It all goes throught private health insurance companies."
Yes, I understand that, it works the same way here through private insurance companies.. as I've posted to your before we also don't have a government healthcare provider. But the government will not only subsidize lower income levels but also companies to pay the insurance for their employee's. That sounds like a whole lot of subsidizing to me.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#34493 Nov 27, 2012
DustyOutlaw wrote:
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Come on now. You're an Okie. You know people that are worried that Obama is going to declare a dictator ship and declare martial law. So what?
Go suck on a dill pickle! It will help you feel better!
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#34494 Nov 27, 2012
OkieAbroad wrote:
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"Government is only subsidizing in helping people in certain wage brackets pay their ins. premiums. The government is not the healthcare provider. It all goes throught private health insurance companies."
Yes, I understand that, it works the same way here through private insurance companies.. as I've posted to your before we also don't have a government healthcare provider. But the government will not only subsidize lower income levels but also companies to pay the insurance for their employee's. That sounds like a whole lot of subsidizing to me.
I am not sure what the governments role will be with companies being helped to pay for their employees health ins. But the way you put it it is a whole lot of subsidizing going on. Next question how is all this subsidizing going to be paid for? My answer would be greater taxes on the working class people. Could be wrong!

Since: Apr 10

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#34495 Nov 27, 2012
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>Go suck on a dill pickle! It will help you feel better!
Hebrew National makes excellent pickles. But I prefer Olives. So how's seceding from the Union coming along?

Since: Jul 10

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#34496 Nov 27, 2012
DustyOutlaw wrote:
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Hebrew National makes excellent pickles. But I prefer Olives. So how's seceding from the Union coming along?
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She sounds like she is ready to sign petition.

One thing for sure, she is NEVER gonna give Obama the benefit of any doubt.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#34497 Nov 27, 2012
DustyOutlaw wrote:
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Hebrew National makes excellent pickles. But I prefer Olives. So how's seceding from the Union coming along?
We are not going any where! Just a few crazies blowing bubbles. Would not want to make your day!

Since: Sep 12

Groningen, Netherlands

#34498 Nov 27, 2012
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>I am not sure what the governments role will be with companies being helped to pay for their employees health ins. But the way you put it it is a whole lot of subsidizing going on. Next question how is all this subsidizing going to be paid for? My answer would be greater taxes on the working class people. Could be wrong!
Don't take my word for it, look at the link you sent me yourself. I'm talking about tax breaks given to companies which you can find on that site.
Higher taxes for healthcare would be a given. It has to be paid for after all.
The Dutch healthcare system works, because it's strictly regulated and enforced. There are many pit falls in this with the current American system as is now.

I hope it works. I'd like to see it work. But I think many things will have to change to make it work. It should be interesting at the very least.:)
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#34499 Nov 27, 2012
OkieAbroad wrote:
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Don't take my word for it, look at the link you sent me yourself. I'm talking about tax breaks given to companies which you can find on that site.
Higher taxes for healthcare would be a given. It has to be paid for after all.
The Dutch healthcare system works, because it's strictly regulated and enforced. There are many pit falls in this with the current American system as is now.
I hope it works. I'd like to see it work. But I think many things will have to change to make it work. It should be interesting at the very least.:)
I to hope it works out for everyone. I hope people get the care they need and it is quality care. That is my main concern.
Yes it will be interesting and for many scary at the same time. To be honest because this healthcare thing is oh so new of a concept I think the only people realy looking forward to the change is the lower income people. So many have the idea that this will be a free ride. And to some it may be. But I hope the burden of this health care bill falls on more that the working middle class. I really donot think many in this class can take much more.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#34500 Nov 27, 2012
WMCOL wrote:
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She sounds like she is ready to sign petition.
One thing for sure, she is NEVER gonna give Obama the benefit of any doubt.
If you are talking about me you got that wrong! I am one that it has to be prove that a new concept will work. Just saying so is not good enough for me. That goes for Obamacare, buy an auto, TV and so on. I gave him the benefit of the doubt the first go around but he didnot sell me completely that beside having the talk that he can do the walk.

Since: Jul 10

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#34501 Nov 27, 2012
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>If you are talking about me you got that wrong! I am one that it has to be prove that a new concept will work. Just saying so is not good enough for me. That goes for Obamacare, buy an auto, TV and so on. I gave him the benefit of the doubt the first go around but he didnot sell me completely that beside having the talk that he can do the walk.
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You had unrealistic non-human expectations of him and that is not giving him the benefit of any doubt. It is setting a standard no human can achieve. You expected him to cast a spell on an obstructionist GOP Congress, and undo all of the damage that took more than eight-years to create. You expected him to build much quicker than things can be torn down.

Since: Apr 10

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#34502 Nov 27, 2012
WMCOL wrote:
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She sounds like she is ready to sign petition.
One thing for sure, she is NEVER gonna give Obama the benefit of any doubt.
You know the Obama adminstration has deported more illegals than Both Bush's and Reagan combined. Does the right give him any credit for that? Nope.

The Obama Administration has ferreted more Medicare and Medicaid fraud by clinics and related people than both Bush's and Reagan combined. Does the right give him any credit for that? Nope.

It is what is. A bunch of low information, poorly educated hicks being HICKS. Idiots. Noodlers. Rednecks. Crackers. Racists and goobers.

Since: Apr 10

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#34503 Nov 27, 2012
WMCOL wrote:
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You had unrealistic non-human expectations of him and that is not giving him the benefit of any doubt. It is setting a standard no human can achieve. You expected him to cast a spell on an obstructionist GOP Congress, and undo all of the damage that took more than eight-years to create. You expected him to build much quicker than things can be torn down.
Ever seen a high rise being imploded? Comes down almost instantly. Ever seen the new highrise being built? Years and years to build. Same thing with Bush vs Obama. But the hicks aren't interested in that. That would require thinking. Their politics are limited to GOP =Good Dem = bad. See Spot run.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#34504 Nov 27, 2012
WMCOL wrote:
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You had unrealistic non-human expectations of him and that is not giving him the benefit of any doubt. It is setting a standard no human can achieve. You expected him to cast a spell on an obstructionist GOP Congress, and undo all of the damage that took more than eight-years to create. You expected him to build much quicker than things can be torn down.
Maybe so.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#34505 Nov 27, 2012
DustyOutlaw wrote:
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You know the Obama adminstration has deported more illegals than Both Bush's and Reagan combined. Does the right give him any credit for that? Nope.
The Obama Administration has ferreted more Medicare and Medicaid fraud by clinics and related people than both Bush's and Reagan combined. Does the right give him any credit for that? Nope.
It is what is. A bunch of low information, poorly educated hicks being HICKS. Idiots. Noodlers. Rednecks. Crackers. Racists and goobers.
Do you need another pickle? Maybe you would do better with a lemon!

Since: Apr 10

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#34506 Nov 27, 2012
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>Do you need another pickle? Maybe you would do better with a lemon!
And you need to stay out of politics. Something you know absolutely nothing about.

Since: Apr 10

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#34507 Nov 27, 2012
I could use a good recipe for deviled eggs. Not too sweet though.
Gale Witherspoon

Broken Arrow, OK

#34508 Nov 27, 2012
Obama has done wonders for this country and his job has just begun. I believe he will turn this economy around this time and we will all be rich.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#34509 Nov 27, 2012
DustyOutlaw wrote:
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And you need to stay out of politics. Something you know absolutely nothing about.
Well Dusty Boy the only thing you seem to know is how to call people names. You seem to have smoe kind of concept that you are better than anyone on here. Well YOU are NOT!

Good Devil Eggs you would have to know my Daughter-in-law!. I am suprised you aren't the best in making them. You seem to think you are at everything else. Go figure!

Since: Apr 10

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#34510 Nov 27, 2012
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>Well Dusty Boy the only thing you seem to know is how to call people names. You seem to have smoe kind of concept that you are better than anyone on here. Well YOU are NOT!
Good Devil Eggs you would have to know my Daughter-in-law!. I am suprised you aren't the best in making them. You seem to think you are at everything else. Go figure!
There are many things I know nothing about. At least I know that unlike you right wing know everything hicks. My God I'm a frigging genius compared to most Okies and that's pathetic because outside of the Bible Belt I'm pretty much just average intelligence. But you go right ahead Tamara. Your state is a loser state because of loser people in the majority. We'll keep building your roads with our money and you keep bitching about spending and being the laughingstock of the nation. Everyone has to be something and you hicks have your parasite role down to perfection.
Rational Tulsans

Tulsa, OK

#34511 Nov 27, 2012
OkieAbroad wrote:
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You know, I'm all for a Healthcare system. But I see things like those you have mentioned, and the companies paying HI,.. well, I am not sure it's going to work. I'm no professional, but I see it work here and it's much more simple. And to me, the more simple the system the less it will cost.
Dusty, I agree with you about the single payer, but in time, Obamacare will become so convenient, and so important to Americans, that as all non partisan reviews of Obamacare care has shown to be, it will be deficit neutral. It is just a remarkable accomplishment by this great President, this great man. And that is the true fear of the right wing racist Nazi Republican. They know that in time, Obamacare will be a part of America similar to the 4th of July.
The white right wing black, hispanic, and other minority hate mongering conservative scum, know that when the smoke clears, Barack Obama will go down in history right next to Abe Lincoln, FDR, and Bill Clinton as one of the greatest Presidents in history.
The Reagan legacy is a right wing white dog fraud. Reagan was the worst President in history. 135 members of his administration was indicted, or forced to resign for crimes.
Reagan illegally, and treasonously, sold weapons to the terrorist nation of Iran (Iran Contra) behind the backs of the American people, and lied about it.
Obama is the best. And he is not some homosexual white man (all conservative white men are homosexuals behind closed doors), he is ALL MAN!!!!!!!!!!

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