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I Always Wondered

United States

#1 Oct 2, 2011
EAST ST. LOUIS -- Federal prosecutors say an East St. Louis businessman was earning substantial income at the same time he was using a welfare card to pay his tabs at a Hooters and a hotel in Costa Rica.

The businessman, James L. Quirin, was charged Friday in federal court in East St. Louis with theft of government money.

Read more: http://www.bnd.com/2011/10/02/1883685/busines...
hang em high

Waterloo, IL

#2 Oct 2, 2011
I Always Wondered wrote:
EAST ST. LOUIS -- Federal prosecutors say an East St. Louis businessman was earning substantial income at the same time he was using a welfare card to pay his tabs at a Hooters and a hotel in Costa Rica.
The businessman, James L. Quirin, was charged Friday in federal court in East St. Louis with theft of government money.
Read more: http://www.bnd.com/2011/10/02/1883685/busines...
Lock his ass up and throw away the key !
I know

United States

#3 Oct 2, 2011
I Always Wondered wrote:
EAST ST. LOUIS -- Federal prosecutors say an East St. Louis businessman was earning substantial income at the same time he was using a welfare card to pay his tabs at a Hooters and a hotel in Costa Rica.
The businessman, James L. Quirin, was charged Friday in federal court in East St. Louis with theft of government money.
Read more: http://www.bnd.com/2011/10/02/1883685/busines...
I can't believe that he thought that would slip through and not be noticed.
Disgusted

United States

#4 Oct 3, 2011
I get upset everytime I see someone using a Link card for Chips and Energy Drinks.
SnipSnip

East Saint Louis, IL

#5 Oct 3, 2011
How do you all notice when they are using a card? I use my credit card to buy groceries because I don't carry much cash. But I buy healthy, so you may not have noticed. I can't tell what folks are using because I don't look that closely. I give folks privacy while they check out. Really, how do you notice? I am curious. Do you just assume because of their appearance and demographic they are on aid? I've never seen a "welfare card" so I don't know what they look like.
well

United States

#6 Oct 3, 2011
I can tell when they are using a Link card. Usually it will be a big fat woman wearing her house shoes with a couple of misbehaved kids in tow. Usually pushing two carts filled with expensive cuts of meat. Buying cases of the cool aid looking drinks and snacks. And, from the looks of them, they have never had a job. People that work for their money try to save at the grocery store. And, Cahokia is a lower income town with alot of people on welfare.
hang em high

Waterloo, IL

#7 Oct 3, 2011
well wrote:
I can tell when they are using a Link card. Usually it will be a big fat woman wearing her house shoes with a couple of misbehaved kids in tow. Usually pushing two carts filled with expensive cuts of meat. Buying cases of the cool aid looking drinks and snacks. And, from the looks of them, they have never had a job. People that work for their money try to save at the grocery store. And, Cahokia is a lower income town with alot of people on welfare.
Very well said !
Robert

United States

#8 Oct 4, 2011
well wrote:
I can tell when they are using a Link card. Usually it will be a big fat woman wearing her house shoes with a couple of misbehaved kids in tow. Usually pushing two carts filled with expensive cuts of meat. Buying cases of the cool aid looking drinks and snacks. And, from the looks of them, they have never had a job. People that work for their money try to save at the grocery store. And, Cahokia is a lower income town with alot of people on welfare.
They need to taking classes in shopping. They need to buy spaghetti and Ramen noodles to last them all month. Instead of blowing all of their money on the 1st. I knew it was the first of the month when all of my neighbors started having 12 hour parties on Saturday and Sunday.

I'd like to know if they can be on Link from Cradle to grave.

Link
HUD
WIC
etc
Disgusted

United States

#9 Oct 4, 2011
SnipSnip wrote:
How do you all notice when they are using a card? I use my credit card to buy groceries because I don't carry much cash. But I buy healthy, so you may not have noticed. I can't tell what folks are using because I don't look that closely. I give folks privacy while they check out. Really, how do you notice? I am curious. Do you just assume because of their appearance and demographic they are on aid? I've never seen a "welfare card" so I don't know what they look like.
All you have to do is watch the card they swipe and then the amount of money the cashier tells them they owe for stuff not covered by LINK.
citizen

Alton, IL

#10 Oct 4, 2011
STFU! I use my link card for junk food all the time and it's none of your damned business what we buy with them. Mind your own!
Robert

Saint Louis, MO

#11 Oct 4, 2011
citizen wrote:
STFU! I use my link card for junk food all the time and it's none of your damned business what we buy with them. Mind your own!
Yes, it is my business.

I earned that money for you to use.
I know

United States

#12 Oct 4, 2011
I love those cheesy hot fries in a bag.
Unfair

United States

#13 Oct 5, 2011
Too start with lets get this right, James Quinn was using an unemployment debit card not a welfare card. It's people like that causing unemployment to go broke. I hope he gets whats coming to him. They will probably slap him on the wrist and make him pay it back.
As for Link, you have to be 18 to get that. It makes most us us mad to stand behind someone buying candy, ice cream, potato chips, soda, Little Debbies, etc and then see them pay with a Link card. I have seen not only black people but also white people use Link cards and some of the white people I know have jobs. With unemployment as bad as it is there are people that need help but there should be a cap on it, a time limit as to how long they can collect and what they can buy. Link should like WIC and ONLY be used for things like meat, fruits, vegetables and milk.
If you want to do something about it write to Quinn or Costello or some other state official.
ParkThem

East Saint Louis, IL

#14 Oct 5, 2011
Very good Unfair! When I had to draw unemployment after working in MO after a crooked exec fired me because I wouldn't do something illegal for him, and it was ruled an unjust termination I hardly got any money and no card. I know MO is behind IL on worker's rights and benefits, but the amount of money that guy got was unreal. I think I drew way under $6,000 total. Part of why I did was to tick that company off and give the state time to investigate their illegal behavior. They fought it tooth and nail because they were scared of those labor investigators seeing they did that to long time employees all the time. Had they won at the UI office hearings, their corrupt stuff would have been hidden. They even hired an expensive firm that fought it for them. Those companies are doing great business. A lawyer pal said they sometimes use outsiders to keep the company people from getting charged with perjury, depending on how they choose to have them represent them as a mouthpiece. Sneaky shit for sure.

The "consultant" backed off after they saw they had no case and the company was wrong and left the company's HR stooges to ramble on at the hearings. Had four before I got a check. Luckily, I had some savings. They fired the older workers right before their retirement kicked in all of the time. They did it to me, but MO gives you little recourse and a very small time frame to file with gov'ment agencies about it. Only time I've ever had to draw, and hopefully never again. They give you a LONG time to draw checks now with less of a burden of proof of looking for a new job.

What ended up happening was the execs got federal charges on them, but they got dropped and only scapegoats went to prison after prominent folks, including local IL elected politicians whose names you would recognize, sent the federal judge a gang-signed letter saying how good the execs were. How good a character the felon wannabes had. Utter bullshit since the main exec's son had stories in the STL newspapers talking about how he cheated at other companies he worked for. God, between the corrupt pols and companies and corrupt aid drawers, where are the honest folks in life anyway?
reader

United States

#15 Oct 5, 2011
Unfair wrote:
Too start with lets get this right, James Quinn was using an unemployment debit card not a welfare card. It's people like that causing unemployment to go broke. I hope he gets whats coming to him. They will probably slap him on the wrist and make him pay it back.
As for Link, you have to be 18 to get that. It makes most us us mad to stand behind someone buying candy, ice cream, potato chips, soda, Little Debbies, etc and then see them pay with a Link card. I have seen not only black people but also white people use Link cards and some of the white people I know have jobs. With unemployment as bad as it is there are people that need help but there should be a cap on it, a time limit as to how long they can collect and what they can buy. Link should like WIC and ONLY be used for things like meat, fruits, vegetables and milk.
If you want to do something about it write to Quinn or Costello or some other state official.
Good for you on a good comment. There were 12 people ahead of you bashing link users and all the while there wasn't a one of them that actually had a clue as to what they were talking about.
It's nice to see someone every now and then who has actually read an article and has the brains to understand what they have read.
Your an exception on this forum so keep it up.
meme

United States

#16 Oct 5, 2011
Unfair wrote:
Too start with lets get this right, James Quinn was using an unemployment debit card not a welfare card. It's people like that causing unemployment to go broke. I hope he gets whats coming to him. They will probably slap him on the wrist and make him pay it back.
As for Link, you have to be 18 to get that. It makes most us us mad to stand behind someone buying candy, ice cream, potato chips, soda, Little Debbies, etc and then see them pay with a Link card. I have seen not only black people but also white people use Link cards and some of the white people I know have jobs. With unemployment as bad as it is there are people that need help but there should be a cap on it, a time limit as to how long they can collect and what they can buy. Link should like WIC and ONLY be used for things like meat, fruits, vegetables and milk.
If you want to do something about it write to Quinn or Costello or some other state official.
Some people trade their Link card to drug dealers for drugs also. They should have their picture on the card, that would stop some of it.
Steal some metal and trade your Link card and you can smoke your crack.Throw in the Housing alotment and all this is better than working, they think.
Unfair

United States

#17 Oct 6, 2011
Yes some people sell their Link cards to buy drugs and some sell them to pay other bills. Pictures should be put on Link cards and they should do drug testing. I have heard people say that drug testing is an invasion of their privacy but how many of you get drug tested at your jobs? I am guessing but I would say that millions of dollars would be saved if Link is reformed. I do know that something needs to be done.
guberment

Columbia, IL

#18 Oct 6, 2011
I dont think people that get anykind of government check get drug tested, that would put the dealers out of business
I know

United States

#19 Oct 6, 2011
One of the states just passed a law that they have to be drug tested to get welfare. I think it was Florida. I heard it from someone, but cannot be sure.
Duh

Edwardsville, IL

#20 Oct 8, 2011
I think politicians need to be randomly tersted too. Most of their decisions are done under prescription drugs at least, and it shows. If your last mayor wasn't drugged he was emotionally or mentally ill by his strange illegal actions. He needs help, not a promotion and a job that affects others and their families. We knew how he was in high school and nothing changed there except he got YOUR money to buy them.

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