21 States threaten to secede from US

21 States threaten to secede from US

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Brian

Saint Louis, MO

#1 Feb 23, 2009
Wow

Edwardsville, IL

#2 Feb 23, 2009
Brian wrote:
http://www.breakthematrix.com/ The-Public-Trust/NH-to-Secede- over-Federal-Governments-Treas onous-Acts
That is just retarded. Those staes are just talking sh!t, they won't go anywhere
ook

Fairview Heights, IL

#3 Feb 24, 2009
Wow wrote:
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That is just retarded. Those staes are just talking sh!t, they won't go anywhere
A revolution in just at the horizon, it is time for us to take back our government. It may not happen in your life time but it will happen. If it doesn't you will beliving in the United Communist States of America. Everything that is happening is the same thing that happened in Nazi Germany when Hitler took over. Everyone is stripped of their rights & that in itself has already been started.
I guess you agree with Obama on the preposed a 500% tax on ammunition in his State along with a $1,000,0000 insurance policy and his support of a nationwide version. If that happens only the criminals will have guns. Along with Obama's Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel's idea of wanting to put Gun Owners on a political black list that will strip them of their rights. AND Obama's Attorney General calling for the Total Gun Ban in DC, and said it should go Nationwide. That is what happened in NAZI Germany & it's starting here already

Since: Aug 08

United States

#4 Feb 24, 2009
Brian wrote:
http://www.breakthematrix.com/ The-Public-Trust/NH-to-Secede- over-Federal-Governments-Treas onous-Acts
Isn’t this one of Ron Paul’s radical fringe puppet groups attempting to convolute the ideas behind the Jeffersonian principles?

I’m not saying there doesn’t need to be radical change, but succession? Just about every state on that list, with the exception of Alaska and Texas would starve with out some form of Federal assistance.

Since: Aug 08

United States

#5 Feb 24, 2009
ook wrote:
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A revolution in just at the horizon, it is time for us to take back our government. It may not happen in your life time but it will happen. If it doesn't you will beliving in the United Communist States of America. Everything that is happening is the same thing that happened in Nazi Germany when Hitler took over. Everyone is stripped of their rights & that in itself has already been started.
I guess you agree with Obama on the preposed a 500% tax on ammunition in his State along with a $1,000,0000 insurance policy and his support of a nationwide version. If that happens only the criminals will have guns. Along with Obama's Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel's idea of wanting to put Gun Owners on a political black list that will strip them of their rights. AND Obama's Attorney General calling for the Total Gun Ban in DC, and said it should go Nationwide. That is what happened in NAZI Germany & it's starting here already
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Since you brought up the Nazi comparison, let’s look at just one of W’s and that cripple Dick Cheney’s proudest moment in regards to citizen’s rights. He flat out lied about the threat against our country from Iraq and lied about every other aspect of the war. He stole that right out of Goerings playbook. For the record, Herman Goering said:

“"Naturally the common people don't want war …it is always a simple matter to drag the people along…”“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY."

Sound familiar? The Bush’s infamous 16 WORDS in the 2003 SOU address and Condi’s “WE DON’T WANT THE SMOKING GUN TO BE A MUSHROOM CLOUD...“

all that NRA gun banning BS is simply that... BS.
Revolution

Marshall, MN

#6 Feb 24, 2009
Maybe you moron's will wake up to the fact that if the state's do not protect their rights now, everyone will end up losing them. The 10th Amendment was the reason the States joined in the first place. This was to prevent the central government from gaining too much power.(Britan)
So if you want to keep your head in the stand, go ahead. But don't come running to the rest of us when it is too late!

BTW Ron Paul was one of the few candidates who respected the American people enough by telling them the truth.
frkgnjoke

United States

#7 Feb 24, 2009
opiate wrote:
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Isn’t this one of Ron Paul’s radical fringe puppet groups attempting to convolute the ideas behind the Jeffersonian principles?
I’m not saying there doesn’t need to be radical change, but succession? Just about every state on that list, with the exception of Alaska and Texas would starve with out some form of Federal assistance.
well if they did leave all them obama supporters would leave those states so those states would save money not paying welfare and the crime would disappear so sounds good to me.
hey opiate

Waterloo, IL

#8 Feb 24, 2009
opiate wrote:
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Since you brought up the Nazi comparison, let’s look at just one of W’s and that cripple Dick Cheney’s proudest moment in regards to citizen’s rights. He flat out lied about the threat against our country from Iraq and lied about every other aspect of the war. He stole that right out of Goerings playbook. For the record, Herman Goering said:
“"Naturally the common people don't want war …it is always a simple matter to drag the people along…”“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY."
Sound familiar? The Bush’s infamous 16 WORDS in the 2003 SOU address and Condi’s “WE DON’T WANT THE SMOKING GUN TO BE A MUSHROOM CLOUD...“
all that NRA gun banning BS is simply that... BS.
Hey I was just curious, your initials RB?

Since: Aug 08

United States

#9 Feb 24, 2009
hey opiate wrote:
<quoted text>Hey I was just curious, your initials RB?
no sorry, they are not
thinking ahead

United States

#10 Feb 25, 2009
I think everyone needs to do some thinking of who will be obamas foot soldiers? who will be the most loyal? will all the dumbass middleclass white people who voted him in stay loyal once they realize whats going on? Unless we want to become slaves to a new government we might want to get prepared.
Wow

Edwardsville, IL

#11 Feb 27, 2009
This post makes me laugh because of the ignorance of the people typing it. But it's ok, its understandable coming from you people.
go hug a cat

United States

#12 Feb 27, 2009
opiate wrote:
<quoted text>
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Since you brought up the Nazi comparison, let’s look at just one of W’s and that cripple Dick Cheney’s proudest moment in regards to citizen’s rights. He flat out lied about the threat against our country from Iraq and lied about every other aspect of the war. He stole that right out of Goerings playbook. For the record, Herman Goering said:
“"Naturally the common people don't want war …it is always a simple matter to drag the people along…”“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY."
Sound familiar? The Bush’s infamous 16 WORDS in the 2003 SOU address and Condi’s “WE DON’T WANT THE SMOKING GUN TO BE A MUSHROOM CLOUD...“
all that NRA gun banning BS is simply that... BS.
Opie the right we have to bear arms is what holds all our other rights in place without it you wouldnt be talking with the freedom you have.If you want to talk about lies look at what obama has said.If bush needed to lie to keep us safe so be it, you dont know everything going on behind closed doors.

Since: Aug 08

United States

#13 Feb 27, 2009
go hug a cat wrote:
<quoted text>Opie the right we have to bear arms is what holds all our other rights in place without it you wouldnt be talking with the freedom you have.If you want to talk about lies look at what obama has said.If bush needed to lie to keep us safe so be it, you dont know everything going on behind closed doors.
Otis, that’s exactly what the goose-stepping neo-con brown shirts want to believe. We can argue all day long about the Second Amendment, the real issue here are the lies. As citizens should demand to know when any politicians lies and should also expect them to be held accountable.

Public dissent, open debate, and a system of common and civil laws is what makes this such a great country.“W” subjugated our civil rights like no other administration, and because of 9/11 we blindly went along with him like lemmings over the cliff. Did you notice when ever Bush’s approval rating started to drop right after 9/11, Homeland Security would ratchet up the color warnings. It’s all about fear!

Now to your original point; I’m no constitutional scholar, but I believe the basis of our constitution is actually natural law. The idea that we have “freedom of expression” because we have the “right to bear arms” is kind of counterintuitive and a bit arcane. Maybe I’m looking at this wrong, but to my mind if the “right to bear arms” is what protects our other freedoms and rights, then it would stand that the people with the most or biggest guns could control what we do and say?
Sharon

Redmond, WA

#14 Feb 27, 2009
This is crazy!They are protesting all over the country.Thowing tea leaves in the rivers all over the country!I always kind of joked about going into another war between the states.
nra all the way

United States

#15 Feb 27, 2009
opiate wrote:
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Otis, that’s exactly what the goose-stepping neo-con brown shirts want to believe. We can argue all day long about the Second Amendment, the real issue here are the lies. As citizens should demand to know when any politicians lies and should also expect them to be held accountable.
Public dissent, open debate, and a system of common and civil laws is what makes this such a great country.“W” subjugated our civil rights like no other administration, and because of 9/11 we blindly went along with him like lemmings over the cliff. Did you notice when ever Bush’s approval rating started to drop right after 9/11, Homeland Security would ratchet up the color warnings. It’s all about fear!
Now to your original point; I’m no constitutional scholar, but I believe the basis of our constitution is actually natural law. The idea that we have “freedom of expression” because we have the “right to bear arms” is kind of counterintuitive and a bit arcane. Maybe I’m looking at this wrong, but to my mind if the “right to bear arms” is what protects our other freedoms and rights, then it would stand that the people with the most or biggest guns could control what we do and say?
The fact is if it were not for people having the means(guns-milita) to keep governmet in check we would have no rights, they could do what they wanted. Plus if not for the nra bs or not who would defend that freedom.Yes fear is a big factor but sometimes its needed to bring people together.
nra all the way

United States

#16 Feb 27, 2009
then it would stand that the people with the most or biggest guns could control what we do and say?........this is my point if we didnt have the right to have arms the people(government) with the most, biggest AND ONLY arms would control what we do and say.

Since: Aug 08

United States

#17 Feb 27, 2009
nra all the way wrote:
<quoted text> then it would stand that the people with the most or biggest guns could control what we do and say?........this is my point if we didnt have the right to have arms the people(government) with the most, biggest AND ONLY arms would control what we do and say.
nra all the way wrote:
<quoted text>The fact is if it were not for people having the means(guns-milita) to keep governmet in check we would have no rights, they could do what they wanted. Plus if not for the nra bs or not who would defend that freedom.Yes fear is a big factor but sometimes its needed to bring people together.
So what happened for the last eight years? Where were all of you gun toters when Bush was raping us with the Patriot Act and secretly wire-tapping US citizens? Seems to me that would have been a good time for someone to step up and take care of business.
nra all the way

United States

#18 Feb 27, 2009
unless you're just a idiot ill pretend you are joking.If taping us kept us safe so be it. are you saying this isnt going on anymore? like I said you dont know whats going on behid closed doors. What could a people do to defend themselves against a government that wants to take away their freedom of speech or religion?tell me what freedom the patriot act took from us?
Yellow Snow

Glen Carbon, IL

#19 Feb 27, 2009
opiate wrote:
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So what happened for the last eight years? Where were all of you gun toters when Bush was raping us with the Patriot Act and secretly wire-tapping US citizens? Seems to me that would have been a good time for someone to step up and take care of business.
Come on....correct the spelling of your 'toters' and lets get "Real" with the Iconic Musings of our youth!
I couldn't say where she's coming' from,
But I just met a lady named Dinah-Moe Humm
She stroll on over, say look here, bum,
I got a forty dollar bill say you can't make me cum
(Y'jes can't do it)
She made a bet with her sister who's a little bit dumb
She could prove it any time all men was scum
I don't mind that she called me a bum,
But I knew right away she was really gonna cum
(So I got down to it)
I whipped off her bloomers'n stiffened my thumb
An' applied rotation on her sugar plum
I poked 'n stroked till my wrist got numb
But I still didn't hear no Dinah-Moe Humm,
Dinah-Moe Humm

Where's this Dinah-Moe
Comin' from
I done spent three hours
An' I ain't got a crumb
From the Dinah-Moe, Dinah-Moe, Dinah-Moe
From the Dinah-Moe Humm
Got a spot that gets me hot, ow!
An' you ain't been to it
(No no no no!)
Got a spot that gets me hot, ow!
An' you ain't been to it
(No no no!)
Got a spot that gets me hot
But you ain't been to it
(No no no no no!)
Got a spot that gets me hot
But you ain't been to it
'Cause I can't get into it
Unless I get out of it
An' I gotta get out of it
Before I get into it
'Cause I never get into it
Unless I get out of it
An' I gotta be out of it
To get myself into it
(She looked over at me with a glazed eye
And some bovine perspiration on her upper lip area
And she said ...)
Just get me wasted
An' you're half-way there
'Cause if my mind's tore up,
Then my body don't care
I rubbed my chinny-chin-chin
An' said my-my-my
What sort of thing
Might this lady get high upon?
I checked out her sister
Who was holdin' the bet
An' wondered what kind of trip
The young lady was on
The forty dollar bill didn't matter no more
When her sister got nekkid an' laid on the floor
She said Dinah-Moe might win the bet
But she could use a little ______ if I wasn't done yet
I told her ...
Just because the sun
Want a place in the sky
No reason to assume
I wouldn't give her a try
So I pulled on her hair
Got her legs in the air
An' asked if she had any cooties on there
(Whaddya mean cooties! No cooties on me!)
She was buns-up kneelin'
BUNS UP!
I was wheelin' an dealin'
WHEELIN' AN' DEALIN' AN' OOOOH!
She surrender to the feelin'
SHE SWEETLY SURRENDERED
An' she started in to squealin'
Dinah-Moe watched from the edge of the bed
With her lips just a-twitchin' an' her face gone red
Some drool rollin' down
From the edge of her chin
While she spied the condition
Her sister was in
She quivered 'n quaked
An' clutched at herself
While her sister made a joke
About her mental health
'Till Dinah-Moe finally
Did give in
But I told her
All she really needed
Was some discipline ...
Kiss my aura ... Dora ...
M-M-M ... it's real angora
Would y'all like some more-a?
Right here on the flora?
An' how 'bout you, Fauna?
Y'wanna?
MMM ... sound like you're chokin' on somethin'
Did you say you want some more?
Well, here's some more ...
(Oh, baby ...)
Oh, sure ... look,
D'you think I could interest you
In a pair of zircon-encrusted tweezers?
MMM ... tweezers!
Wait a minute, lemme sterilize 'em ...
Gimme your lighter ...
I couldn't say where she's coming' from
But I just met a lady named Dinah-Moe Humm
She stroll on over, say look here, bum,
I got a forty dollar bill say you can't make me cum
(Y'jes can't do it)
I whipped off her bloomers 'n stiffened my thumb
An' applied rotation on her sugar plum
I poked 'n stroked till my wrist got numb
An' you know I heard some Dinah-Moe Humm
ook

Fairview Heights, IL

#20 Feb 27, 2009
opiate wrote:
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So what happened for the last eight years? Where were all of you gun toters when Bush was raping us with the Patriot Act and secretly wire-tapping US citizens? Seems to me that would have been a good time for someone to step up and take care of business.
They just made it legal to do it now, where before the did it regardless of what the laws read. IF you dion't think it was happeneing before then, well I have a bridge to sell you.

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