Old unsolved murders
Virginia Givens

Waterloo, IL

#121 Sep 5, 2009
I want to thank all of you who are trying to help and let the other one know I am not giving up because he doesn't care enough about his brother to get the truth and doesn't want us to either. Does make me wonder why though
The Real Jason Bainter

Collinsville, IL

#122 Sep 5, 2009
i wish every one would leave my family out of this they dug up the farm in mo and found nothing so apparently it was investigated and they moved on so my family didnt have shit to do with those murders so quit bringin them up please
what i kno

Waterloo, IL

#123 Oct 12, 2009
kim veath's friend may have been pam pinsker but she died of cancer a year ago, i know they were friends. tommy was most likely killed by greg bush after refusing to give up his seat to greg for a ride home from school in a friends car. greg told him that something bad was going to happen if he didn't up the seat and tommy disappeared a week later, the f.b.i. came and talked to my brother at the time, he was one of the kids in the car that day. also in reguards to carla malory , greg bush had attended a party at carla's house and durring the party the subject of rape came up and carla made the statement ''i would die fighting to keep from being raped'' later on durring the party greg came up and grabbed carla from behind put a knife to her throat and said ''what would u do know bitch'' within weeks she was dead. the night vicki musial was killed greg was seen at patrick's bar at the same time she had been there, he took his girlfriend enett noe home and came back to the bar wher his advances were rebuffed by her, next day she was dead. craid patrick and zelma durbin were killed by their next door neibhor, greg bush, they found wooden handle peices of one of the knifes he used in the pocket of some blood soaked shoerts under his bed, go to the curcuit clerks office review the evidence, its overwhelmingly against him, oh and he killed another inmate right after arriving at mernard. fyi i had a beer with joey myers in 1992 in freeburg where he lived at the time, so if he's dead it had to be after that date.
what i kno

Waterloo, IL

#124 Oct 12, 2009
i should have checked my spelling but the facts are correct.....oh and vicki lived on bluewater lane the street next to hardees and carla lived on upper cahokia road at the time she was killed
Really

Saint Louis, MO

#125 Oct 12, 2009
If you know so much information why don't you go to the police? I mean really it sounds like you have the best memory I've ever seen!
what i kno wrote:
kim veath's friend may have been pam pinsker but she died of cancer a year ago, i know they were friends. tommy was most likely killed by greg bush after refusing to give up his seat to greg for a ride home from school in a friends car. greg told him that something bad was going to happen if he didn't up the seat and tommy disappeared a week later, the f.b.i. came and talked to my brother at the time, he was one of the kids in the car that day. also in reguards to carla malory , greg bush had attended a party at carla's house and durring the party the subject of rape came up and carla made the statement ''i would die fighting to keep from being raped'' later on durring the party greg came up and grabbed carla from behind put a knife to her throat and said ''what would u do know bitch'' within weeks she was dead. the night vicki musial was killed greg was seen at patrick's bar at the same time she had been there, he took his girlfriend enett noe home and came back to the bar wher his advances were rebuffed by her, next day she was dead. craid patrick and zelma durbin were killed by their next door neibhor, greg bush, they found wooden handle peices of one of the knifes he used in the pocket of some blood soaked shoerts under his bed, go to the curcuit clerks office review the evidence, its overwhelmingly against him, oh and he killed another inmate right after arriving at mernard. fyi i had a beer with joey myers in 1992 in freeburg where he lived at the time, so if he's dead it had to be after that date.
what i kno

Waterloo, IL

#126 Oct 12, 2009
i have an excellent memory altho at the time it was somewhat general information within cpd that bush had killed carla and vicki, det. sharp thought so as well, they just figured bush would never breath free air again anyway wich is kinda scary after what happened to gregory bowman, a killer walking free. i hope they still have d.n.a. evidence from the two cases and wonder if they've checked them against bush. i was as shocked as you are Really that i knew and remembered so much but i grew up near the bush family and joey myer's family and i was kinda working in the system at the time so i got the inside abit from detectives. i also knew carla and her brother tony. carla was a sweet kid and ive always wondered what had happened about her murder.
Decoy

Foley, AL

#127 Oct 12, 2009
F.Y.I Your full of shit. Me and joey where like brothers. We where hanging out the day he disappeared.It was somewhere between my house and his house in the late 70s and has not been heard from since. By chance if he was going to runaway he would have told me and most likely I would have left with him so don't try to tell me you had a beer with him in 92 you might have had a beer with a person named Joe Myers but I can promise you it wasn't the Joey Myers from Cahokia
that disappeared in the late 70s
threethirteen

Saint Peters, MO

#128 Oct 12, 2009
what i kno wrote:
kim veath's friend may have been pam pinsker but she died of cancer a year ago, i know they were friends. tommy was most likely killed by greg bush after refusing to give up his seat to greg for a ride home from school in a friends car. greg told him that something bad was going to happen if he didn't up the seat and tommy disappeared a week later, the f.b.i. came and talked to my brother at the time, he was one of the kids in the car that day. also in reguards to carla malory , greg bush had attended a party at carla's house and durring the party the subject of rape came up and carla made the statement ''i would die fighting to keep from being raped'' later on durring the party greg came up and grabbed carla from behind put a knife to her throat and said ''what would u do know bitch'' within weeks she was dead. the night vicki musial was killed greg was seen at patrick's bar at the same time she had been there, he took his girlfriend enett noe home and came back to the bar wher his advances were rebuffed by her, next day she was dead. craid patrick and zelma durbin were killed by their next door neibhor, greg bush, they found wooden handle peices of one of the knifes he used in the pocket of some blood soaked shoerts under his bed, go to the curcuit clerks office review the evidence, its overwhelmingly against him, oh and he killed another inmate right after arriving at mernard. fyi i had a beer with joey myers in 1992 in freeburg where he lived at the time, so if he's dead it had to be after that date.
I applaud your memory!
But Joey Myers is gone. No way you drank a beer w/ him in 92. I met my exhusband in 85 & knew Mark Myers a little before that. Joey was gone by then & has never been seen since.
threethirteen

Saint Peters, MO

#129 Oct 12, 2009
Decoy wrote:
F.Y.I Your full of shit. Me and joey where like brothers. We where hanging out the day he disappeared.It was somewhere between my house and his house in the late 70s and has not been heard from since. By chance if he was going to runaway he would have told me and most likely I would have left with him so don't try to tell me you had a beer with him in 92 you might have had a beer with a person named Joe Myers but I can promise you it wasn't the Joey Myers from Cahokia
that disappeared in the late 70s
I wondered how long it would take you or your brother to see that.
what i kno

Waterloo, IL

#130 Oct 12, 2009
prolly a different joey myers decoy no need to get upset. this joe myers lived on e.fifth street in st joeseph gardens near huffman school. i hadn't seen since the 70's so i was suprised when i ran into him in freeburg. this joey had burnt a few bridges in cahokia tho so his absence was prolly necessary. again bro didnt mean to piss u off or anything
tavern

Waterloo, IL

#131 Oct 13, 2009
Decoy wrote:
F.Y.I Your full of shit. Me and joey where like brothers. We where hanging out the day he disappeared.It was somewhere between my house and his house in the late 70s and has not been heard from since. By chance if he was going to runaway he would have told me and most likely I would have left with him so don't try to tell me you had a beer with him in 92 you might have had a beer with a person named Joe Myers but I can promise you it wasn't the Joey Myers from Cahokia
that disappeared in the late 70s
sorry, i had posted a reply but didn't send it as a reply
what i kno

Waterloo, IL

#132 Oct 13, 2009
tavern was me.....im new at this...gimme a break
Wondering

Hazelwood, MO

#133 Oct 21, 2009
Wasn't there a murder back on Sparks st? I think it's sparks over by Mildred. I remember there was a nice yellow house before you get to Mildren before the railroad tracks. I think I remember there being a murder there. Anyone remeber?
Really Now

Montvale, NJ

#134 Oct 21, 2009
FYI...It wasn't Vicki Musial, it was Kathy Musial.

Since: Sep 08

United States

#135 Oct 22, 2009
Wondering wrote:
Wasn't there a murder back on Sparks st? I think it's sparks over by Mildred. I remember there was a nice yellow house before you get to Mildren before the railroad tracks. I think I remember there being a murder there. Anyone remeber?
Yea, can't remember the guys name but he was shot in the face.
tommy mcclain

Sparta, IL

#136 Oct 26, 2009
im very sorry for you loss of gary .allthough i dont live around there anymore i heard a few rumors about garys death that a black man went out with him and he never came back
abcdefg

Cincinnati, OH

#137 Apr 28, 2010
what i kno wrote:
kim veath's friend may have been pam pinsker but she died of cancer a year ago, i know they were friends. tommy was most likely killed by greg bush after refusing to give up his seat to greg for a ride home from school in a friends car. greg told him that something bad was going to happen if he didn't up the seat and tommy disappeared a week later, the f.b.i. came and talked to my brother at the time, he was one of the kids in the car that day. also in reguards to carla malory , greg bush had attended a party at carla's house and durring the party the subject of rape came up and carla made the statement ''i would die fighting to keep from being raped'' later on durring the party greg came up and grabbed carla from behind put a knife to her throat and said ''what would u do know bitch'' within weeks she was dead. the night vicki musial was killed greg was seen at patrick's bar at the same time she had been there, he took his girlfriend enett noe home and came back to the bar wher his advances were rebuffed by her, next day she was dead. craid patrick and zelma durbin were killed by their next door neibhor, greg bush, they found wooden handle peices of one of the knifes he used in the pocket of some blood soaked shoerts under his bed, go to the curcuit clerks office review the evidence, its overwhelmingly against him, oh and he killed another inmate right after arriving at mernard. fyi i had a beer with joey myers in 1992 in freeburg where he lived at the time, so if he's dead it had to be after that date.
What I don't understand is that I heard how Carla died and how Kathy died and they seemed like two different breeds of psychopath.
One seemed to heinous that the other (Carla's stabbings) seemed almost mundane. I think whoever did what they did to Kathy (and I'm not repeating it here) would not settle for anything less than spectacularly sick.
And trying not to be too much of the devil's advocate here, but if Bush put a knife to her throat at a party and said that you say he did, why would there be no forced entry at her house (I think the paper said she knew the person and let them in). I'd also say there was more than one guy in that circle of friends who would talk that way or treat a woman roughly. Just go right down the ranks and you'll find all their names.
I also heard that Greg's bloody clothing was found in the garage, although I don't know if the garage was secure at the time. If it was wide open, anyone could have planted such things.
I really don't know if Greg did one of those murders, but feels somehow they were separate, even if in Cahokia at the time it seemed that if something so terrible happened so close together, it would have to be the same person. And if two did do it, there is still another very dangerous person out there. If Greg didn't do it at all (as his girlfriend kept carrying on about), then there are two, both sick beyond hell's imagining.
Crystal Prater
#138 Jun 10, 2010
jason k lockwood wrote:
<quoted text>Terrie Hamond she used to see Ree Lawson and was killed in a traailer in parkfield terrace year's ago
her case is not unsoved she is my aunt but ree's is
Crystal Prater
#139 Jun 10, 2010
jason lockwood did it wrote:
i heard jason lockwood killed those people and jeff prater helped him hide the evidence
whatever i am jeffs cousin unless he hid it in his sandbox he did do nothing. jess is only 31 now. get a life.
erie story my mom told me

Maryland Heights, MO

#140 Jun 10, 2010
my mom told me one night she left her house which was on lynch in east st louis and when she made it to kingshighway a voltswagon with a strage man driving it followed her from kingshighway all the way to troy illinois to her girlfrieds house. when she pulled up the in drive way she got out of the car and ran to the house and she said that the man agrily sped off. now at this time interstate 255 wasnt there yet so imagine how long of a ride from kingshighway to troy was. i remember my mom telling me this was in i think mid 1977. just an odd story i thought i would share with everyone. i always ask her if she thinks it was ted bundy but shes such a modest person and downplays things and says " well the car and the guys description fit but it just as well could of been anybody" i guess the point to this was that there are just unexpainable and odd things that happen sometimes and often those things are erie to think about. its almost like one big episode of the show unsolved mysteries. even with the wierd music.

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