Old unsolved murders
Those were the days

United States

#101 Aug 30, 2009
Ramfam wrote:
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I am Tommy's niece.....
If you know this happend it woud be nice to get more information. Or if anyone has information they can email me @ [email protected] It is very hard to investigate when the police won't help and everyone has moved away who knew my uncle.
Call Merl Justice at the St. Clair County Sheriff's Dept in Belleville Illinois. If you could go there in person it would be better. I know he will help you.
nonsense

United States

#102 Aug 30, 2009
mike was raped wrote:
it was jeff prater and mike ulrich
These guys were not old enough. Why would you get on here and mess with someone that had a relative killed?
Ted Bundy

United States

#103 Aug 30, 2009
Joy wrote:
This is creepy.Ted Bundy`s victims all but one had brown hair parted in the middle.Cathy and Carla both had hairstyles like that.I never thought about it before.But someone else on this thread mentioned this.Ted Bundy in Cahokia gives me goosebumps.I was a couple of years younger than Cathy and Carla.But I was blonde.But we had enough wierdo`s running around back then.You always think your safe when your young.Who knew...
Ted Bundy had a volkswagon and on one of the websites it had the states and cities he killed women in and Cahokia was not one of them.
murders

United States

#104 Aug 30, 2009
In the late 50's or early 60's there were 2 women killed in Cahokia and the guy took self developing poloroid pictures of the victims after he killed them. No one was ever charged with those 2 murders either.
Hummmm

Collinsville, IL

#105 Aug 30, 2009
Joeys friend wrote:
I was with joey Myers the day before he disappeared we went by the banners house to get some weed everything was cool then. But who knows with them crazy ass people. They would like you one day and want to kill ya the next. Especially Paul he was messed up in the head real bad. we got some weed smoked out with them, shot some of there guns and we left and that night we parted ways. we were supposed to hook up the next day to finish the sack but I never saw my buddy again.But who's to say what happened to him we will never know the truth
because there was so many speculations. I heard later in life that Ted Bundy was in the area at that time. who knows I haven't a clue. all I know is I lost A good friend that day and it really sucked.
One of Joeys sisters told me years back that the Banners killed him & has him buried at their farm house in Mo. Cops didn't have enough evidence to search the property, heard he's not the only one buried there either. SAD & at the same time, SCAREY! I grew up right down the street from the Banners.
Just curious

Liberty, MO

#106 Aug 31, 2009
Where did the Banners live?=?
Ramfam

Saint Louis, MO

#107 Aug 31, 2009
Those were the days wrote:
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Call Merl Justice at the St. Clair County Sheriff's Dept in Belleville Illinois. If you could go there in person it would be better. I know he will help you.
Thanks for the help, but we've been there and done that. They say it will be to costly to get the files out. Sad, very sad reading all these stories knowing people can get away literally with murder and no on can help. Everyone just talks about it like it's nothing and it's okay that the murders kill people and dispose of them. Tommy Ramirez is my UNCLE, and a person, not just another victim or rumor.
where

Edwardsville, IL

#108 Sep 1, 2009
Just curious wrote:
Where did the Banners live?=?
I belive right behind Penniman School.
Belleville News Democrat

United States

#109 Sep 1, 2009
Ramfam wrote:
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Thanks for the help, but we've been there and done that. They say it will be to costly to get the files out. Sad, very sad reading all these stories knowing people can get away literally with murder and no on can help. Everyone just talks about it like it's nothing and it's okay that the murders kill people and dispose of them. Tommy Ramirez is my UNCLE, and a person, not just another victim or rumor.
Call and ask the paper to do a story on it. Ask why nothing is being done. Let the public see what was done.There was a little girl killed by her step mother years ago and they opened that case up. It was close to Scott Air Force Base I believe.The woman was found guilty.
jason bainter

Waterloo, IL

#110 Sep 2, 2009
what you talkin about willis

Since: Apr 09

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#111 Sep 2, 2009
OK so I have been asking questions and have called the police department again about Ronnie Givens and Marcus Orrs supoosed suicides. Marcus was right handed and shot in the left temple. Ronnie was right handed and shot in the left temple. Hmmmmm. A girl named Pam is the person that I need to hear from now. She was a friend of Kim Veath. I was told that this Pam told someone that Kim told her that she could not beleive that she killed Ronnie. Why did Kim kill Ronnie? She has told several people she had done it so why has she not been arrested? It has been several months now and I have not heard back from the Detective. Oh and why did it take the police and ambulance over an hour to get to ThunderBird trailer court? Somebody knows something but wont talk. What happened to the jars Kim had? Where is Kim now?
dont worry about who i am

Waterloo, IL

#112 Sep 2, 2009
i grew up with mark him and the girl he was with at the time were real bad crack heads i think it was a dope deal gone bad the gun was not even found in the same room as marks body and what about re lawson (red dog) nobody has ever heard anything on that murder either
In the shadows

United States

#113 Sep 5, 2009
has anyone ever contacted the state and recieved the full police report on this Ronnie Givens Case?

Since: Apr 09

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#114 Sep 5, 2009
In the shadows wrote:
has anyone ever contacted the state and recieved the full police report on this Ronnie Givens Case?
They would not give us a copy. And it is out of our hands now.
In the shadows

United States

#115 Sep 5, 2009
by law you can request from the state. pay a fee. although in most cases you must request in person. all police reports are public information,
In the shadows

United States

#116 Sep 5, 2009
In the shadows

United States

#117 Sep 5, 2009
And what do you mean by it's out of your hands now. is this an open case
In the shadows

United States

#118 Sep 5, 2009
did this ronnie have a little brother. I think I may have known him!

Since: Apr 09

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#119 Sep 5, 2009
In the shadows wrote:
did this ronnie have a little brother. I think I may have known him!
Yes he had a brother named timmy

And it was closed as a suicied but is now being looked into by some investigators.

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#120 Sep 5, 2009
In the shadows wrote:
did this ronnie have a little brother. I think I may have known him!
I was informed by Timmy tonight that I need to stop wasting my time on those whom are dead and gone. So he does not want to know the truth of what happened and he no longer wants any contact from me about HIS brother or MY BS family. So we are not going to bring him into this. If there is anyone that may have any information that might be helpful please contact me at [email protected] or my mother at [email protected] We are no longer going to address this Topic. Thanks.

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