Two of Fired Cahokia officers come ba...

Two of Fired Cahokia officers come back to work

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Justice at last

Saint Louis, MO

#1 Jul 21, 2008
Matt Steinkamp and Dean Bastilla were sent a letter by the Village to report for duty today at 9:00 a.m. Both had been fired by Chief Rick Watson for violating the alleged residency requirement. Both officers showed up with an attorney and tendered letters of recognition. Neither Watson nor bergman were present at the Village Hall. Watson was apparently on vacation and Bergman was at the Cracker Barrel in Caseyville. The vindicated officers ran into Bergman there while going to lunch after the meeting and when Bergman was questioned as to why he had not been present for their return to work he apparently claimed he knew nothing about it. The back pay issue is still pending.
question

Troy, IL

#2 Jul 21, 2008
What is a "letter of recognition"?
Justice at last wrote:
Matt Steinkamp and Dean Bastilla were sent a letter by the Village to report for duty today at 9:00 a.m. Both had been fired by Chief Rick Watson for violating the alleged residency requirement. Both officers showed up with an attorney and tendered letters of recognition. Neither Watson nor bergman were present at the Village Hall. Watson was apparently on vacation and Bergman was at the Cracker Barrel in Caseyville. The vindicated officers ran into Bergman there while going to lunch after the meeting and when Bergman was questioned as to why he had not been present for their return to work he apparently claimed he knew nothing about it. The back pay issue is still pending.
Justice at last

Saint Louis, MO

#3 Jul 21, 2008
Sorry i meant "resignation"
Class of 75

Waterloo, IL

#4 Jul 21, 2008
I don't get it. Wasn't there a residency requirement when these men where hired. What makes them think that they are above the law?
twt

Bellflower, CA

#5 Jul 21, 2008
no need to say your sorry for mispelling.
we all can not be as perfert as "question".

I just typed a report out and hit spell check, then my screen took a power dive due to all my spelling errors.
question

Troy, IL

#6 Jul 21, 2008
Someone needs to chill - I thought maybe it was some type of official document to have them reinstated.
twt wrote:
no need to say your sorry for mispelling.
we all can not be as perfert as "question".
I just typed a report out and hit spell check, then my screen took a power dive due to all my spelling errors.
Truth be told

United States

#7 Jul 21, 2008
Class of 75 wrote:
I don't get it. Wasn't there a residency requirement when these men where hired. What makes them think that they are above the law?
Above the law? NO. The "residency requirement" to which you are referring was actually worded "prefer" in their OFFICIAL contract. Not to mention it is actually AGAINST the law to require residency. So as you can see they did not break the law but those who fired them DID. All the good residents of Cahokia who supported the fight against the cops in spite of advice given by the village attorney should be ashamed of themselves as well as those in charge who spent so much money on the lawsuit. Shame shame shame.
ttt

Dupo, IL

#8 Jul 21, 2008
Truth be told wrote:
<quoted text>Above the law? NO. The "residency requirement" to which you are referring was actually worded "prefer" in their OFFICIAL contract. Not to mention it is actually AGAINST the law to require residency. So as you can see they did not break the law but those who fired them DID. All the good residents of Cahokia who supported the fight against the cops in spite of advice given by the village attorney should be ashamed of themselves as well as those in charge who spent so much money on the lawsuit. Shame shame shame.
So, I guess the fact the village offered their job back means they have given up the fight? Finally realize what the court system has been telling then for years? Will those officers be compensated for everything up until their resignation? Man, talk about having to eat crow. Frank chose to eat the buffet instead of crow huh?
FYI

United States

#9 Jul 21, 2008
The Village was never smart enough to give up the fight, the US Supreme court upheld the rulings that said they never should have been fired. Funny thing is they both missed five years of working here, wonder what that total is going to be, yet more money thrown away for a useless fight. Good job to the FOP for fighting the good fight and to the Mayor for fighting a losing battle and costing us tax payers soooooo much money.
What is next

United States

#10 Jul 21, 2008
So we can add this also to the list of all the wonderful thing Frank has done for our city. It seems the list get longer & longer & the city gets broker & broker. I wonder if Ms Barker will ever go back to work since a Federal Judge told Frank he had no case against her also????
Dont Look Back

United States

#11 Jul 22, 2008
Get your backpay and RUN. Since the city kept these guys hanging for years, knowing they could not win this fight. Get your checks, take a vacation and have a cold one on the tax payers of this town. Since the tax money is being pissed away by this staff. Get what you can and get out.
What

Collinsville, IL

#12 Jul 22, 2008
What is next wrote:
So we can add this also to the list of all the wonderful thing Frank has done for our city. It seems the list get longer & longer & the city gets broker & broker. I wonder if Ms Barker will ever go back to work since a Federal Judge told Frank he had no case against her also????
Who cares piss on them idiots they want to work here but not live here
Linda

Milwaukee, WI

#13 Jul 22, 2008
Let them live wherever they want- but- as long as they lived in the Village, they could drive their patrol cars anywhere- and that includes out of the Village. So, let them move, buy their own vehicle & pay the sales tax on their purchase to drive back and forth to work. Pay the insurance, the maintenance expense and the gasoline expense.
Sara

United States

#14 Jul 22, 2008
Linda wrote:
Let them live wherever they want- but- as long as they lived in the Village, they could drive their patrol cars anywhere- and that includes out of the Village. So, let them move, buy their own vehicle & pay the sales tax on their purchase to drive back and forth to work. Pay the insurance, the maintenance expense and the gasoline expense.
I agree, who cares where they live but they should drive their own vehicles back and forth to work. That is a waste on money. I don't think it's fair to have to live in the Village to work there. You shouldn't have to live in a run down town just to have a job. We are all trying to make a living these days. As long as they come to work do their job and go home in their own vehicles more power to them. If I were these two police officers I would take what was owed to me and say forget that job. Who wants to work under Frank Buggerman.
What is next

United States

#15 Jul 22, 2008
What wrote:
<quoted text>Who cares piss on them idiots they want to work here but not live here
Do you "HAVE" to live in the city your job is??

As much as I would love for them to live here in Cahokia almost EVERY large city & even a lot of small ones don't have a rule that the police have to live w/in the city.
IF you were a cop & worked for St Louis or E.St.Louis (just to name a couple)would you want to live in those cities??? I doubt it. When the police took the job the contract said that the city "Prefers" that they live in the city.
So U Know

United States

#16 Jul 22, 2008
Linda wrote:
Let them live wherever they want- but- as long as they lived in the Village, they could drive their patrol cars anywhere- and that includes out of the Village. So, let them move, buy their own vehicle & pay the sales tax on their purchase to drive back and forth to work. Pay the insurance, the maintenance expense and the gasoline expense.
They do get to drive the cars home now, but you may be surprised to know. They can not drive them out of Cahokia ( without permission)So that means they can anywhere they want in town. If you have seen not alot of officer's drive there cars much off duty. They have there own cars so they can go eat and take there families with them. So using that as a reason to not leave this town. Well not a good one. You will also see that if you do lift the BS residence rule, you will get back to having 100 people take the test. Not 15 to 20.
Keepin it real

United States

#17 Jul 22, 2008
Linda, cops already have their own vehicles which they paid taxes on, buy gas and maintain. They also are not "above the law" so they keep them legal with insurance and license. Squad cars are kept at the officer's home without extra expense to the village. It's not as though they get any extra pay for storing the squad cars on their property or for people going to their doors thinking it is a substation. There are plenty of downfalls to having the general public know where a cop lives.
Sara

United States

#18 Jul 22, 2008
Keepin it real wrote:
Linda, cops already have their own vehicles which they paid taxes on, buy gas and maintain. They also are not "above the law" so they keep them legal with insurance and license. Squad cars are kept at the officer's home without extra expense to the village. It's not as though they get any extra pay for storing the squad cars on their property or for people going to their doors thinking it is a substation. There are plenty of downfalls to having the general public know where a cop lives.
Okay so even though the cops keep the squad cars and use them for personal use are you saying that its not costing the village even more in gas money? I don't want to speak for Linda but I think that is the point she is trying to make.
A FRIEND

Granite City, IL

#19 Jul 22, 2008
Sara wrote:
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Okay so even though the cops keep the squad cars and use them for personal use are you saying that its not costing the village even more in gas money? I don't want to speak for Linda but I think that is the point she is trying to make.
Shouldn't you be worring about Columbia cops & not Cahokia anyway? Why can't you stay on Columbia topix, seems how you said i wasn't welcomed there maybe you're not welcomed here. I don't think anyone here even cares for your opinions.
Keepin it real

United States

#20 Jul 22, 2008
Sara wrote:
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Okay so even though the cops keep the squad cars and use them for personal use are you saying that its not costing the village even more in gas money? I don't want to speak for Linda but I think that is the point she is trying to make.
They are allowed to use them for personal use ONLY in town. Yes it costs the village money for gas but it also GIVES the village the illusion of more officers on duty. They have even been known to assist and make traffic stops on their own time. Sounds pretty fair to me. What is the benefit of allowing the mayor and other village employees use of village vehicles for personal use?

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