The "AWESOME MEETING & DIVINE MESSAGE" for New Castle - My Opinion !!!

[djrnewcastle]

Ok....
First... What was this "Divine Message" for New Castle? You have yet to pass it on. If this was the purpose of her visit then tell us what it is !!! Is it going to make the front page of the Courier Times on Monday morning? Was our Mayor and our city leaders present at this divine revelation and are they going to take this divine message to their constituents?
Secondly.. AGAIN the Bible clearly states that women are not to be preachers/elders/deacons in the church. So you continue to defy the teaching of the bible. Either you choose the "word of God" in the bible and follow it accordingly or you choose to add your own embellishments such as ... "if souls are saved, people are healed, and delivered while they hear a women preacher, that is awesome." So it either makes me proud to know that God has given you the right to "add or take away" from the bible or it scares me that you choose to do so thinking that you write your own way into salvation !!

Third, if this woman is so great at what she does, why was she not invited to hold her meeting in the biggest church in New Castle? For that matter, ANY CHURCH in New Castle? Instead the "service" was held in the most expensive banquet room in New Castle. You think this lady chose to visit New Castle for free? LOL... TV PREACHERS do nothing for free !!! They claim to be "non profitable" while they are profiting from your "generous donation" to keep their message alive !!

Finally and really most importantly, you brag about the 30 people that came to the Lord on Friday night. Boasting how a 6 yr old girl walked down the aisle by herself to be saved. However sweet this sounds and for as many of you were running the aisles and doing the Jesus dance, A six year old girl (or boy) does not have the mental thought process to even know what she/he are doing. Sure, they know what they see/hear from their parents and Sunday school teachers. But how many 6 yr olds sit still in church and follow along in the their bibles to the pastors message?
A child of 6 hasn't even reached an age of accountability. A six year old child still believes in Santa and the Easter Bunny !!! Are we to continue to lie to a 6 yr old girl that has been "saved" about those holiday fairies?
How about this, if a 6 yr old can be saved thus reaching the age of accountability (knowing right from wrong)shouldn't she be allowed to be married too? I mean, if she is old enough to understand that Christ suffered and died on a cross for her sins and that He and only He can give her the keys to her heavenly home, shouldn't she be able to make the decisions of sex and marriage as well?
Wait, Christ suffered and died for our sins. To be saved you must repent for your past transgressions. Hmmmmmm, what has that 6 yr old girl done that was so bad that she needed to REPENT?? Is she a murderer? Committed fornication?
WHAT HAS ANY 6 YEAR OLD KID DONE SO BAD THAT THEY HAVE TO REPENT OF THEIR SINS?
THEY HAVEN'T REACHED AN AGE OF ACCOUNTABILITY !!!
They may know that it is wrong to lie. They may know that it is wrong to say bad words. BUT DO THEY REALLY KNOW WHY JESUS CHRIST HUNG ON A CROSS?

[Judy]

Very good points, DJR. It's refreshing to see some rational thought in this forum.

[djrnewcastle]

Thanks Judy... but I am sure there are those that think I am anything but rational !! lol

[Question]

(OK not including the 6 year old.) Are the 30 adults that accepted Jesus as their Lord and Savior still lost because it was a female minister that lead them to the Lord.

[djrnewcastle]

Accepting Christ as your Savior is a personal choice and has nothing to do with the person standing behind the pulpit. The Apostle Paul clearly states the role of women in the church.
You either choose to follow the teachings or you choose to make your own rules and then defend them by saying "isn't that what God really wants?"

According to the original post the lady in question was to have a divine message for the people of New Castle as she did for Connersville. The message of salvation is not a new message but one that has been taught for over 2000 years.

Credit has been given to this lady for helping to bring new jobs (through prayer) to the old Visteon plant in Connersville. Is she going to bring a divine resurrection to the Metaldyne plant?

I am still waiting to hear what this divine message for New Castle is !!!

[showmom]

The message was unity in the city , and to wake up and get off the fence. too many people going to church to just go, people wanting titiles in the church, get back to what it really is.
But of course you are one of those once saved always saved i would imagine. Don't go blowing off scripture to many any more.
She does not take credit for Visteon or anything else. she is a messanger for the LORD, and goes about telling the people what he says, as what all evangelists do.
As for the metaldyne plant and the city what there is of it,,we cannot all get together in one place to pray for our city in unity, it is going to keep going to "hell". Churchs want to all do their own thing, own belief, not socialize with the other..
That is sad..
And i am still waiting to hear what your answer is to the question i keep asking you,
Do you hear Jesus talk to you? As he does me.

[djrnewcastle]

Yes, I have conversations with God... Do i get a mighty rushing wind through a voice, no. But does God talk to my "spiritual heart" ?? Yes he does. And it isn't in the mumbo jumbo you call tongues!

So as I am reading your post above I am sure you are full of joy that you belong and attend the only TRUE CHURCH in New Castle. She may have not taken credit for raising Visteon from the dead but you sure give her the credit. In your original post you praised this woman and gave her more kudos than you did the living God.

Matthew 7:15
Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

You say "Churchs want to all do their own thing, own belief, not socialize with the other.."
Are you saying that doesn't happen in your church?
Then you must attend the only true church of God !
Because your church teaches those things that are not in accordance with the Bible as it was written through the divine revelations of God to the Apostles. You are not an apostle, a disciple maybe, an APOSTLE.. NEVER !!
You claim to speak in a language that only God understands. A practice only dating back to the early 1900's. When asked how to pray by his apostles, Jesus didn't mention a prayer in a special language that only God and the angels understand. Jesuse gave us what is known as the "Lords Prayer". A simple prayer. This special heavenly language you claim to have that satan cannot understand.... hogwash. There is no such thing. You are neither in heaven nor talking to angels. Sister Apostle Healer Showmom of the Divine.... When it comes time for you to get your house in order... I hope you shy away from the wolf that is leading the sheep to slaughter !!

[showmom]

wow,,,
such anger you always have, and condemnation.
no my church is not the only church in town. there are many churches that need to come together and socialize. not ,,,my church is better than yours. which we do have a few people that will come when their church is not in service as it should be.
GOD does not talk to me in rushing winds either,
He talks to me thru the HOLY SPIRIT, we have conversations, not always good words for me ,
I am not arguing tongues anymore with you.
Time is almost up as we know it..my house is in order. I don't have anger and bitterness and condemnation for people like you that judge me, and condem me, only pity...
Only thng i wanted to hear from you is do you talk to GOD as a friend, a human, I do...and it is awesome to have conversations with him..
I am a follower of Jesus, I spread his word, which says you shall lay hands and they shall recover. if there is a YOU SHALL in the Bible, that is me..I am a you....His word is yesterday today and tomorrow, not just for 2000 years ago..
you can have your judgemental, condemnation, belief, that is fine...
I have mine and that is fine with me..
go ahead you can have the last word, nothing you say will i recieve.

[Indoctrination]

Whet in the ell was her message?

[djrnewcastle]

Apparently it wasn't a message that you haven't already heard every time you enter a church. "The end is near !!" The same message preached since the days of the Apostle Paul and John the Revelator.
But now the Apostle Showmom has things to back it up.
"Pestilences"(swine flu, according to the Apostle Showmom)... Yet the Spanish Flu Pandemic of 1918 and 1919 was the deadliest outbreak of disease in recorded history. A pandemic describes an epidemic that spreads over a huge area or even becomes worldwide, which is what the Spanish Flu certainly did. Hmmmm, a little more intense than the "Swine Flu" Sister Apostle Showmom.
Earthquake
The worst earthquake recorded in history happened in China in the year 1556. The number of death toll is unknown yet traditionally it is being given an 830, 000. The reason for the numerous death is that most of the people lived in artificial caves in Loess cliffs that collapsed during the catastrophic incident. The earthquakes caused many landslides that made the caves collapse. All in all there are about 840-kilometre or 520 miles destroyed during the earthquake.
Healer Showmom, 454 years off from being the end times.
And False prophets...
Tune into TBN and watch your heroes of faith make a mockery of Christianity. Including that lady that you gave a "love offering" to !

Apparently the "no man knoweth the hour but My Father, Vonda Bishop and the Apostle Showmom"

[Not Convinced]

I'm not here to pee in your wheaties. But, you really need to read the Bible.

[Not Convinced]

The Truth is all in the Bible. I think that sometimes "religion" and "God" get confused to be the same. No, I'm not against "Religion."
But, I would rather study the Bible and learn for myself before I let mankind tell me what it's all about.
We have all sinned and fell short of the glory of God. Do we get "religion" or do we find "God?" If you put God in the Religion, you can come up with something good.

[lilme]

djrnewcastle, why so hostile? showmom why come on a board and preach?

[showmom]

lilme wrote:

djrnewcastle, why so hostile? showmom why come on a board and preach?

I came on to tell about well known speaker coming for a meeting.
I was pounced on that women preachers are going to hell; and because I am a tongue talking pentacostal I was going to hell. I had to defend my stand. I guess some people don't read where the first women preacher in the Bible was the women at the well.
Am not going back there again to the debate. She has her opinion, I have mine. I don't have a bunch of pages torn out of my Bible.

[chad]

showmom wrote:

<quoted text>
I came on to tell about well known speaker coming for a meeting.
I was pounced on that women preachers are going to hell; and because I am a tongue talking pentacostal I was going to hell. I had to defend my stand. I guess some people don't read where the first women preacher in the Bible was the women at the well.
Am not going back there again to the debate. She has her opinion, I have mine. I don't have a bunch of pages torn out of my Bible.

I have to admit I have pages tore out of my bible but the reason I do is because I ran out of toilet paper.

[Reverend Bob]

showmom wrote:

<quoted text>
I came on to tell about well known speaker coming for a meeting.
I was pounced on that women preachers are going to hell; and because I am a tongue talking pentacostal I was going to hell. I had to defend my stand. I guess some people don't read where the first women preacher in the Bible was the women at the well.
Am not going back there again to the debate. She has her opinion, I have mine. I don't have a bunch of pages torn out of my Bible.

I just want to know one thing. Did you or did you not pay attention at the revival by the nice little lady?
W-h-a-t was the message for New Castle?? I have been unable to sleep. I want to konw the answer.
WHAT WAS THE MESSAGE?