cheaters at Cabot Public Schools

cheaters at Cabot Public Schools

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Waukegan, IL

#1 Oct 23, 2008
Anyone know anything abt any cheaters that work there?

Since: Oct 08

Little Rock, AR

#2 Oct 23, 2008
Define cheaters...
like giving answers on a test, personal relationships, or defraud the system type cheaters?
Yngwie Balksteen

United States

#3 Oct 23, 2008
Yeah, well...., i know one person that works as a janitor. that has no high school diploma. I mean, you would think that ANY position in a school district would require a diploma at least, right? A school district handing a job, to a....dropout.

Since: Sep 08

United States

#4 Oct 23, 2008
no, i do not think a janitor should have to have a diploma, gosh!!!!
Joe Smuck

United States

#5 Oct 23, 2008
You would hope with a HS Diploma you could get a better job than a custodian. I think the average pay is 15,000 per year.
Vin

United States

#6 Oct 26, 2008
JUST looking again wrote:
no, i do not think a janitor should have to have a diploma, gosh!!!!
Actually, part of Cabot School Districts mission statement (as most school districts) entails that ALL employees have an attitude of working together to build strong positive values, and well rounded education in our youth, no matter whether it be a teacher, lunchroom cashier, or custodian, crossing gaurd, etc. Of course the teachers cover the "Education" part, but the other adult influence in a school is filled from other positions, perhaps as a custodian. What does that say about a person who is directly involved with the kids, that dropped out of a system, that they are now employed in...?
Vin

United States

#7 Oct 26, 2008
Joe Smuck wrote:
You would hope with a HS Diploma you could get a better job than a custodian. I think the average pay is 15,000 per year.
Actually, a custodian with a few years on the job, with a few raises and bonus, etc. is at about $24,000 a year....

Since: Sep 08

United States

#8 Oct 26, 2008
Not to many kids are involved with the janitors.
Cabot

Houston, TX

#9 Oct 27, 2008
Vin wrote:
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Actually, part of Cabot School Districts mission statement (as most school districts) entails that ALL employees have an attitude of working together to build strong positive values, and well rounded education in our youth, no matter whether it be a teacher, lunchroom cashier, or custodian, crossing gaurd, etc. Of course the teachers cover the "Education" part, but the other adult influence in a school is filled from other positions, perhaps as a custodian. What does that say about a person who is directly involved with the kids, that dropped out of a system, that they are now employed in...?
lol hey Vin, long time no see since you do not seem to frequent our lil Jville forum anymore but who can blame you with all the freaks in there especially the stalker chick that thinks everyone is her baby dadddy lol. First off would someone please justify why a custodian of a school needs to have a diploma of any sort since this man or woman does an incredibly pain in the ass job cleaning up after a parade of misfits that think its ok to do at school what they would never be allowed to do at home...? In fact to hell with a diploma give them a medal if anything for cleaning up the worlds trash and making these schools look like halls of education rather than dumps! I have news for all of you Mensa failures that think a diploma makes you: The fact is that the most brilliant minds on Eath past and present were and are made up of those whom never finished high school period. Hitler damn near took over the world and he had the I.Q of a postage stamp but it was his ability to use what portion of mind he did have. Bill Gates,Nero,Cicero,Rembrandt,.. ....the list goes on forever whether bad or good they utilized all that they had within themselves and became the greatest at whatever they did! A piece of parchment is but nothing but a piece of parchment that hangs on a wall...all sound and fury with signification of nothing! Thank the custodian for providing you with a clean,safe environ to study in!
Vin

United States

#10 Oct 29, 2008
JUST looking again wrote:
Not to many kids are involved with the janitors.
Everybody is missing the point! This thread is becoming bent on the social classification of a "Janitor", and i see that job discrimination is still among us. Are you all saying that a school custodian doesn't need to graduate high school because if they're that dumb, then they can always become a "Janitor"??!! Am i crazy? You all think it's ok, that a learning institution hire employees that have no credential pertaining to said institution??! I believe the word i'm looking for is "Unethical".
Teacher

Cabot, AR

#11 Nov 3, 2008
Sometimes teenagers make choices, and sometimes we just don't understand why they made the choices they did. Was someone bullying, did someone fail to get identified with a learning disability and felt like a failure, did someone just feel out of place in high school? Students drop out for many reasons. You cannot judge one for dropping out of high school. I believe Cabot hires custodians with learning disabilities because I have seen and spoken with them. It is obvious that they are disabled. Were they ever identified in school as having a learning disability??? We do not know. There is nothing wrong with hiring a custodian who does not have a diploma. People without diplomas are not failures and should not be treated as such. How dare anyone suggest that these hard-working custodians who do not have a diploma do not belong in the Cabot School District because of part of the mission statement. When we create our mission statements, we do factor in custodial and cafeteria staff. It is created by the teachers and administrators of each school. The principal is not even in charge of hiring the custodians at the school. Custodians are moved around to where ever they are needed. I appreciate everything our custodians do in the classrooms. I am at Junior High North, and they have their work cut out for them with all of the portables. They do a great job -- no high school diploma needed for that!
unbelieveable

United States

#12 Nov 3, 2008
Aww....poor Johnny felt out of place in high school, so it's ok, you can leave johnny. Buncha BS...
Teacher

Cabot, AR

#13 Nov 3, 2008
You obviously had an easy time in high school. Not everyone is as fortunate. Several students go to the ACE school to avoid the ridicule and other crap that goes on in high school. I know of several students that felt out of place and went to ACE. Do you really judge people based on a high school diploma??? How many job interviews have you been to where someone asked to see your high school diploma?? I have never been asked for mine. A high school diploma should not be how you define a person. Have you actually met any of these high school drop-out custodians?? They have huge hearts and are hard workers. Get a life!! There are real problems in this world, and this is not one of them.
Teacher

Cabot, AR

#14 Nov 3, 2008
By the way, feeling out of place takes in many different things. Some often are depressed and really need help for that. Don't make fun of someone feeling out of place. It makes you look like an insensitive jerk! Have you seen the number of suicides lately?? Maybe these teenagers felt "out of place," like no one cared. These students chose to end their lives; some may choose to drop out of school. People react to different things in different ways. Judge not lest ye be judged.
unbelieveable

United States

#15 Nov 4, 2008
I did NOT have an easy time in High School, i pretty much all but flunked out of 10th grade from goofing off, and had i not buckled down and got my sh#t together, i'd have never graduated. You see, dropping out cause of my problems, insecurities, depression, unability to "fit in", etc. was not an option for me. Why? Cause my parents would have killed me! They raised me right and cared enough that it was better for me NOT to drop out. My family was not rich - we got what we needed and that was all. Today, parents buy their kid's love with material goods, and leave it at that - substandard love, no closeness, etc. just give them what they want and in return ask to not be bothered, which in turn raises spoiled little shits who think the world owes them everything and they have to do nothing for it. Am i an insentitive jerk? maybe so. I actually feel for any kid who feels their life is so bad that their only way out of their problems is with suicide. Of course ME feeling bad does nothing - the parents (as i'd said) should've been more involved with the kids, stuff like setting them down and explaining that getting dissed on their myspace page isn't the end of the world, etc. So...., judge me, i don't care....as if i'm the only one who thinks like this....
Teacher

Cabot, AR

#16 Nov 4, 2008
So, if you had crappy parents, you may have dropped out?? Maybe these employees did not have supportive parents and dropped out. Maybe they needed to help support the family with a job instead of an education at that point in their lives.

As I have already said, there is nothing wrong with a school district hiring a high school dropout.
Vin

United States

#17 Nov 4, 2008
Teacher wrote:
As I have already said, there is nothing wrong with a school district hiring a high school dropout.
Well..., now that a teacher has said it and how it looks typed out.... LoL!
just think about it

United States

#18 Nov 5, 2008
I don't think people are missing the point. It does not matter who the employer is, whether it be a school or the federal government, the skills required to do the job of a janitor does not include education. Yes, people in schools should have good character and be good examples. This can be done without a high school education. I bet if the kids asked that janitor if he would have stayed in school knowing what he knows today...his answer would be yes! What better example can a young person have? Also, VIN, check on employment law. You would be discriminating against this person if you didn't hire him.
Vin wrote:
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Everybody is missing the point! This thread is becoming bent on the social classification of a "Janitor", and i see that job discrimination is still among us. Are you all saying that a school custodian doesn't need to graduate high school because if they're that dumb, then they can always become a "Janitor"??!! Am i crazy? You all think it's ok, that a learning institution hire employees that have no credential pertaining to said institution??! I believe the word i'm looking for is "Unethical".
custodian

United States

#19 Oct 1, 2009
Well im a custodian,and yes we do have contact with the children , thank you, they seem to like to be around me, and i have good advice for them, so before you judge, and degrade our abilities, learn about us first, and no i don't think that we set bad examples for our children or let them drop out... my kid is going to get her high school education... and as for the bad example i set the most amazing examples for my kids and all kids in the school district and i even help kids in the district with their problems... and as for the bad examples me and my daughter are as close as it can get and im really close with her friends to... so if you wanna say that custodians are an issue then apparently you need to get the facts first!!! and the only diabilities that we have are people like you!!!!
custodian

United States

#20 Oct 1, 2009
Did you honestly think we could not read , ha.

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