Slogan

Hollister, MO

#1 Nov 1, 2012
Today in the newspaper was a piece stating that Nov 15th drug testing will begin on people on & welfare food stamps. Even tho passed long ago It was delayed till after the election (Nixon's Re-election)how odd if you think this wasn't planned that well yop can only be a liberal.
for it

United States

#2 Nov 1, 2012
Slogan wrote:
Today in the newspaper was a piece stating that Nov 15th drug testing will begin on people on & welfare food stamps. Even tho passed long ago It was delayed till after the election (Nixon's Re-election)how odd if you think this wasn't planned that well yop can only be a liberal.
If i have to be drug tested to work then they should be drug tested for me to support them fair is fair
MoreInfo

Cabool, MO

#3 Nov 1, 2012
Slogan wrote:
Today in the newspaper was a piece stating that Nov 15th drug testing will begin on people on & welfare food stamps. Even tho passed long ago It was delayed till after the election (Nixon's Re-election)how odd if you think this wasn't planned that well yop can only be a liberal.
All Nixon did was sign the legislation. It came from the republican controlled legislature. Nixon had nothing to do with the start date. I'd like to see mandatory drug testing on our state reps and senators. That would be revealing. I'd like to see them give up their taxpayer paid health care when they test positive.
Slogan

Ozark, MO

#4 Nov 1, 2012
MoreInfo wrote:
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All Nixon did was sign the legislation. It came from the republican controlled legislature. Nixon had nothing to do with the start date. I'd like to see mandatory drug testing on our state reps and senators. That would be revealing. I'd like to see them give up their taxpayer paid health care when they test positive.
But why did Nixon sign it if he was against it, And why was it delayed till after the election ? Yes anyone taking tax monies should be drug tested including police & other city empolyees. You can't me it would not of hurt nixon if done before the election.
MoreInfo

Cabool, MO

#5 Nov 1, 2012
Slogan wrote:
<quoted text> But why did Nixon sign it if he was against it, And why was it delayed till after the election ? Yes anyone taking tax monies should be drug tested including police & other city empolyees. You can't me it would not of hurt nixon if done before the election.
I guess Nixon was in favor of it since he signed the bill. The start date would have been part of the legislation - not Nixon's decision. My guess is the republicans didn't want it to start before the election or there had to be time to get the program ready. I don't think this issue has any bearing on the outcome of the governor's race.
Slogan

United States

#6 Nov 2, 2012
MoreInfo wrote:
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I guess Nixon was in favor of it since he signed the bill. The start date would have been part of the legislation - not Nixon's decision. My guess is the republicans didn't want it to start before the election or there had to be time to get the program ready. I don't think this issue has any bearing on the outcome of the governor's race.
Well then didn't why didn't Nixon veto it then we would know where he stood on it.
It's just hard for me to believe that Nixon wouldn't gained more by having it delayed. The republians isn't going to get that many votes from people on welfare. Democrats has got them right were they want them & has had for years. I've been around for years & seen a lot been there & seen that & done it.
MoreInfo

Sparta, MO

#7 Nov 2, 2012
I really don't think it matters. The republicans have their own issues with Spence to deal with. Why wasn't Spence honest in letting people know his degree is in Home Economics? Kind of wonder if his plan for more jobs in Missouri involves cupcakes and bake sales. If you read the bill about drug testing you'll see that even if it went into effect months ago it would have little impact, if any, on who could vote. The Missouri legislature has devoted a lot of time taking help away from those in need. Let's not forget they tried to take health benefits away from the blind. What will people do when there is no where to turn for help? I suspect an increase in crime is likely as people will be forced to do whatever it takes to survive. The legislature can claim they're trying to save the state money, but if that were true taxpayers wouldn't be paying $20,000 a year for their coffee service. I find it sad that people die from lack of healthcare in this state and many find it difficult to keep their families fed and sheltered, but our reps and senators in Jefferson City have the best hot coffee paid for by us.
imforit

Houston, MO

#8 Nov 3, 2012
MoreInfo wrote:
I really don't think it matters. The republicans have their own issues with Spence to deal with. Why wasn't Spence honest in letting people know his degree is in Home Economics? Kind of wonder if his plan for more jobs in Missouri involves cupcakes and bake sales. If you read the bill about drug testing you'll see that even if it went into effect months ago it would have little impact, if any, on who could vote. The Missouri legislature has devoted a lot of time taking help away from those in need. Let's not forget they tried to take health benefits away from the blind. What will people do when there is no where to turn for help? I suspect an increase in crime is likely as people will be forced to do whatever it takes to survive. The legislature can claim they're trying to save the state money, but if that were true taxpayers wouldn't be paying $20,000 a year for their coffee service. I find it sad that people die from lack of healthcare in this state and many find it difficult to keep their families fed and sheltered, but our reps and senators in Jefferson City have the best hot coffee paid for by us.
Listen I agree with the other guy if I have to get tested to work they should get tested for me to suppost them. I work for the state and get tested all the time. If they got money for drugs they got money for food simple as that
MoreInfo

Sparta, MO

#9 Nov 3, 2012
I'm not arguing either side. It's just not an important issue in this election. The original poster felt that the implementation of the testing was delayed because it would affect the election. The republican controlled legislature created the law and the resulting start date. Can't blame that on Nixon. If you will take the time to read the bill you'll see it's not going to affect very many people.
fedup houstonmo

Burlington, IA

#10 Jan 4, 2013
I think the law,the goverment workers,the school teachers,and a number of others in in different jobs should be tested along with the people in the welfare systems should all get tested.
u bet ya

United States

#11 Jan 4, 2013
fedup houstonmo wrote:
I think the law,the goverment workers,the school teachers,and a number of others in in different jobs should be tested along with the people in the welfare systems should all get tested.
. I agree!
UPS

United States

#12 Jan 4, 2013
Question... doesn't UPS drug test? How can someone who uses drugs be a driver? Heck there are two threads on topix mentioning a certain employee who works there using meth.
concern

United States

#13 Jan 6, 2013
But what about the young children of stupid drug users? With out food stamps they will be the ones that go hungry. I agree that there should be drug test but I do have concerns on who it will hurt the most
Questioning

Cabool, MO

#15 Jan 6, 2013
well wrote:
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Most users sell their food stamps anyway, so their children do without. When you give benefits or money to a druggie all you are doing is enabling their habit. They should have their children removed and made to pay support for their children.
How do you sell them? It's an electronic card system now.

The only way anyone could get assistance is by having a very low income, near nothing in savings, etc. How could they pay child support anyway?
well

United States

#16 Jan 6, 2013
Questioning wrote:
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How do you sell them? It's an electronic card system now.
The only way anyone could get assistance is by having a very low income, near nothing in savings, etc. How could they pay child support anyway?
They give their card to someone else to use and charge them. Say they have a hundred on their card they will let someone else use it for $80.
Then they need to go to jail if they can't pay to support their kids. Simple as that.

Since: May 13

United States

#17 May 9, 2013
I think that drug testing in MOST (not all) employment situations is just another way for the government and big business to invade the privacy of the American people just a little more than they were invading it before. While i can completely see the logic attached todryg testing for those receiving state benefits, I also know better than to think that welfare reform will happen spontaneously on its very own once Missouri starts these drug tests. Probation and Parole's drug resting is second only those given by a person's private Dr yet many many people still find ways around these tests everyday. Drug testing will catch a few users but for the most part it will cost more than it saves in the long run. If u want to make sure food stamps are being spent on food and food only then the surest way to enforce that rule would he to require a computer generated list of items to be sent to the EBT main database at the end of every sale. The lists will be stored with the cardholder's other information and should also be required to be reviewed every 3 months (or more often) by a state caseworker in the cardholder's county. In that way at least we could force people to buy FOOD with those particular funds. And i would be willing to bet it wouldn't cost more or very much more than statewide drug testing....no paper and no labs to pay to perform urine tests in a professional environment by qualified lab techs....or extra computer memory storage space.....hmmmmm

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