Who do you support for Governor in Pe...
Okay

Quakertown, PA

#31032 Aug 12, 2012
bobby64 wrote:
Marisa, you tell when you find a electoral map that favors your flipper, wont you sweet heart? While your at that impossible task forget about it then explain the states flipper will get that reaches 270 electoral votes. If all you got is your tea bag babble please post that. Can Pres Obama win without Florida or Ohio? Hell yes he can but flipper cant. Paul Ryan flipper excuse for losing
I didn't know the election was held yet. No matter what the polls or conjectured electoral map shows, we still have the debates. I can't wait!

Obama will try to deflect away from any economic or unemployment questions, and Ryan will tear Biden to pieces.

Don't count your chickens before they're hatched.
Romney Hood

West Mifflin, PA

#31033 Aug 12, 2012
boxhard wrote:
''These two entities -- Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac -- are not facing any kind of financial crisis,'' said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee.''The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.''[Barney Franks is Chairman of the Banking Committee and received huge sums of money from Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac and is the one pushing this bailout bill through the House] Representative Melvin L. Watt, Democrat of North Carolina, agreed.
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way to get paid barney !!!!
You're a complete idiot!

For the Last Time, Fannie and Freddie Didn't Cause the Housing Crisis

Read here numbnuts and do your research instead of listening to Rush Limpdick....LOL!

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2...
Romney Hood

West Mifflin, PA

#31035 Aug 12, 2012
August 12, 2012 6:32 AM PrintText Obama leads Romney in three key swing states
(CBS News) President Obama leads Mitt Romney among likely voters in Ohio and Florida - and has a double-digit lead in Pennsylvania - according to a Quinnipiac University/CBS News/New York Times poll released this morning.

The poll, conducted from July 24-30, shows Mr. Obama leading his presumptive Republican challenger 53 percent to 42 percent in Pennsylvania. The 11-point lead results largely from independents, who favor the president by 22 points, and women, who favor the president by 24 points.

Mr. Obama holds a six-point lead in Ohio, 50 percent to 44 percent, a state where he holds a campaign event later today. His lead here is also due in large part to women, who back him by a 21-point margin. Romney leads by ten points among Ohio men, and seven points among Ohio whites.

These are really bogus polls.......it's all made up.......Obama is going to eat up Robme in the debates like he did with the poodles he ate in Kenya..LMAO!

OBAMA 2012!!!!!!!!
YEAHHHHHHH BABYYYYYYYY!!!!!

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#31036 Aug 12, 2012
Center for American Progress | Progressive Ideas for a Strong, Just, and Free America

nice cover piece written by another lib distorter,NUMBNUT ! you are a complete donkey robot idiot !. fan and fred had a huge negative impactin the housing market. DUMBASS !!

i have not listened to rush in years and you will never find me quoting him NUMBNUTS. go stroke your Barry IDIOT !
Romney Hood wrote:
<quoted text>
You're a complete idiot!
For the Last Time, Fannie and Freddie Didn't Cause the Housing Crisis
Read here numbnuts and do your research instead of listening to Rush Limpdick....LOL!
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2...
Mutt vs Mutt

West Mifflin, PA

#31037 Aug 12, 2012
boxhard wrote:
''These two entities -- Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac -- are not facing any kind of financial crisis,'' said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee.''The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.''[Barney Franks is Chairman of the Banking Committee and received huge sums of money from Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac and is the one pushing this bailout bill through the House] Representative Melvin L. Watt, Democrat of North Carolina, agreed.
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way to get paid barney !!!!
George W Bush has a probusiness/anticonsumer record, including crony capitalism with the awarding of post-Iraq war contracts (Halliburton, Bechtel, and MCI/Worldcom getting most of the contracts). Alterman and Green note that the first 2 years of the Bush administration coincided with the biggest corporate scandals and bankruptcies since Teapot Dome in the 1920s. Mr. Bush had to manage a falling economy riddled with corporate malfeasance. Companies on the corporate rap sheet:

MCI/Worldcom -- the single largest corporate securities fraud in U.S. history.
Enron -- the largest contributor to Bush's political career. The Bush administration is staffed with numerous former Enron employees and consultants.
Harken Energy -- Bush's behavior on Harken's board of directors was similar to that of the companies caught in the corporate scandals. Mr. Bush received several memos from Harken officials about the impending financial crisis in the company, sold his stock, then several days later the Harken financial problems wewre made public. He failed to file notice of these sales to the SEC for 8 months. The SEC simply stopped their 1990-91 investigation.
Halliburton -- Dick Cheney served as CEO and chairman from 1995-2000. He sold Halliburton stock before bad financial news regarding his company was made public. Halliburton committed fraud on its investors by overstating its earnings.
Enron and Worldcom were followed by scandals and failures at Adelphia, Tyco, and others.
As he did to his unsuccessful businesses, George W. Bush is doing to the country -- leading it down a path of failure:

huge federal deficits
mismanagement
deception
cronyism.
Mutt vs Mutt

West Mifflin, PA

#31038 Aug 12, 2012
Republicans are hoping that if they repeat their lies often enough it will somehow seem true.
Dan the Man

Mifflintown, PA

#31039 Aug 12, 2012
SPH wrote:
What does any of this have to do with "Who do you support for Governor in Pennsylvania in 2010?" Somone needs to kill this thread and create one that's relevant.
Why don't you do that for us - start a relevant thread on every Topix page in PA so that we can debate each other from all over the state.

Thanks.
Romney Hood

West Mifflin, PA

#31040 Aug 12, 2012
the housing bubble was beginning to pop in 2005

Bush did NOTHING!
He was more interested in the wars he illegally started...and the kickbacks to Cheney's company Halliburton.

LMAO!
Go sniff Glenn Becks jockstrap.
pelosi belly fuzz

Trabuco Canyon, CA

#31041 Aug 12, 2012
Mutt vs Mutt wrote:
Republicans are hoping that if they repeat their lies often enough it will somehow seem true.
..........

“The recklessness of government is the primary culprit here,”

Garrett said on the House floor on Jan. 18, 2007.

“For years Congress has been pushing banks to make risky subprime loans. You heard me right. It wasn’t the lenders on their own. Congress passed laws that said we’re going to fine you and we’re going to file lawsuits against you lenders if you don’t make risky loans.

“And using the authority of the Community Reinvestment Act, the big push for subprime mortgages began in earnest during the Clinton administration.
Marisa

Newville, PA

#31042 Aug 12, 2012
Romney Hood wrote:
<quoted text>
You're a complete idiot!
For the Last Time, Fannie and Freddie Didn't Cause the Housing Crisis
Read here numbnuts and do your research instead of listening to Rush Limpdick....LOL!
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2...
Wow! I can't believe I'm agreeing with you.. of course Fannie May and Freddie Mac didn't cause the housing crisis..Barney Frank and Chris Dodd and fellow democrats did!
pelosi belly fuzz

Trabuco Canyon, CA

#31043 Aug 12, 2012
Romney Hood wrote:
the housing bubble was beginning to pop in 2005
Bush did NOTHING!
He was more interested in the wars he illegally started...and the kickbacks to Cheney's company Halliburton.
LMAO!
Go sniff Glenn Becks jockstrap.
..........
..........

I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum
Mutt vs Mitt

West Mifflin, PA

#31044 Aug 12, 2012
OK back to click and clack..........

Ryan can say medicare won't change for current seniors until the cows come home - I simply don't believe him. Here's how it might work. Everyone under, say, 55 is taken out of medicare. OK, now their votes no longer have a stake in medicare and in fact become hostile to it. Legislators notice that, and begin chipping away at medicare, year by year and appropriation by appropriation. So in 5 years, when many of us will need it badly, medicare is just an underfunded voucher we use to go around and beg private insurance carriers to honor.

My read - Ryan is poison to medicare. Only a fool would vote to end their own health care. Not that there aren't a few fools around .....
jose menendez

Baltimore, MD

#31045 Aug 12, 2012
Mutt vs Mitt wrote:
OK back to click and clack..........
Ryan can say medicare won't change for current seniors until the cows come home - I simply don't believe him. Here's how it might work. Everyone under, say, 55 is taken out of medicare. OK, now their votes no longer have a stake in medicare and in fact become hostile to it. Legislators notice that, and begin chipping away at medicare, year by year and appropriation by appropriation. So in 5 years, when many of us will need it badly, medicare is just an underfunded voucher we use to go around and beg private insurance carriers to honor.
My read - Ryan is poison to medicare. Only a fool would vote to end their own health care. Not that there aren't a few fools around .....
Absolutely...
They know total destruction just will not sell for the election. So, they will weaken it along with programs like Social Security and Medicaid. But once they start they will certainly chip away at it until they reach the goal of total annihilation.
Just invest in the good people of foreign lands after all they're more competitive and they have access to the US markets with all the trade
and monetary irregularities
After all they're hungry for work, like in China where workers get paid a bowl of rice for a days work.
Hey don't fear becuase...well be hungry too after these guys are done with us
Just ask Ann Rand...Ryans role model
bobby64

Seattle, WA

#31046 Aug 12, 2012
Okay, did i ever say president Obama has won reelection 2012? I have not. I will say that at this point in time president Obama is winning as in electoral map and that's a fact. I pay attention to the bottom line and that's the magic number 270. The president is winning in several key swing states flipper cant do without and that's another fact. Its good that you came to defend Marisa as she or he who ever always has tea bag opinions that will never be nothing but hate president
Dan the Man

Mifflintown, PA

#31047 Aug 12, 2012
Marisa wrote:
<quoted text>Wow! I can't believe I'm agreeing with you.. of course Fannie May and Freddie Mac didn't cause the housing crisis..Barney Frank and Chris Dodd and fellow democrats did!
You are wrong. That is a rightwing myth invented by your side to avoid taking responsibility for their colossal regulatory failure.

Wikipedia has a decent summary that's well-sourced. Go learn what actually happened:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007%E2%80%93201...
Marisa

Newville, PA

#31048 Aug 12, 2012
Mutt vs Mutt wrote:
<quoted text>
George W Bush has a probusiness/anticonsumer record, including crony capitalism with the awarding of post-Iraq war contracts (Halliburton, Bechtel, and MCI/Worldcom getting most of the contracts). Alterman and Green note that the first 2 years of the Bush administration coincided with the biggest corporate scandals and bankruptcies since Teapot Dome in the 1920s. Mr. Bush had to manage a falling economy riddled with corporate malfeasance. Companies on the corporate rap sheet:
MCI/Worldcom -- the single largest corporate securities fraud in U.S. history.
Enron -- the largest contributor to Bush's political career. The Bush administration is staffed with numerous former Enron employees and consultants.
Harken Energy -- Bush's behavior on Harken's board of directors was similar to that of the companies caught in the corporate scandals. Mr. Bush received several memos from Harken officials about the impending financial crisis in the company, sold his stock, then several days later the Harken financial problems wewre made public. He failed to file notice of these sales to the SEC for 8 months. The SEC simply stopped their 1990-91 investigation.
Halliburton -- Dick Cheney served as CEO and chairman from 1995-2000. He sold Halliburton stock before bad financial news regarding his company was made public. Halliburton committed fraud on its investors by overstating its earnings.
Enron and Worldcom were followed by scandals and failures at Adelphia, Tyco, and others.
As he did to his unsuccessful businesses, George W. Bush is doing to the country -- leading it down a path of failure:
huge federal deficits
mismanagement
deception
cronyism.
What? All these years later and it's still Bush's fault? Come on now, can't you come up with something better? When Obama leaves the White House in Jan., of 2013, we can then start to say "It's Obama's fault". No we can't, because republicans take responsibility, something democrats are clueless about...responsibility!
Marisa

Newville, PA

#31049 Aug 12, 2012
jose menendez wrote:
<quoted text>
Absolutely...
They know total destruction just will not sell for the election. So, they will weaken it along with programs like Social Security and Medicaid. But once they start they will certainly chip away at it until they reach the goal of total annihilation.
Just invest in the good people of foreign lands after all they're more competitive and they have access to the US markets with all the trade
and monetary irregularities
After all they're hungry for work, like in China where workers get paid a bowl of rice for a days work.
Hey don't fear becuase...well be hungry too after these guys are done with us
Just ask Ann Rand...Ryans role model
If you're going to use someone's name how about spelling it correctly? It's AYN, not ANN! Got it?
Dan the Man

Mifflintown, PA

#31050 Aug 12, 2012
Marisa wrote:
<quoted text>What? All these years later and it's still Bush's fault? Come on now, can't you come up with something better? When Obama leaves the White House in Jan., of 2013, we can then start to say "It's Obama's fault". No we can't, because republicans take responsibility, something democrats are clueless about...responsibility!
Bush and Republicans crashed the economy. No serious economist disputes that.

But the right continues to blame Obama for the economy. Why do you insist on shifting the blame to Obama? Why won't you take responsibility for what your side did? The right is simply clueless about responsibility.

And for the record - there will NEVER be a time when Bush doesn't get blamed for the Bush recession. He crashed the car, so just because he turned the keys over to a new driver doesn't mean he isn't still responsible for the crash.
Marisa

Newville, PA

#31051 Aug 12, 2012
Dan the Man wrote:
<quoted text>
You are wrong. That is a rightwing myth invented by your side to avoid taking responsibility for their colossal regulatory failure.
Wikipedia has a decent summary that's well-sourced. Go learn what actually happened:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007%E2%80%93201...
Wikipedia? Come, come now. Surely you can do better then that? You know, like the truth.

We all know that wil]kipedia is left wing.

By the way, I thought you said you were done with me, you and that classless doofus from West MIfflin?

Gee I was hoping you would have kept your word and leave me alone. But true to liberalism, keeping one's word is meaningless.
Dan the Man

Mifflintown, PA

#31052 Aug 12, 2012
Marisa wrote:
<quoted text>What? All these years later and it's still Bush's fault? Come on now, can't you come up with something better? When Obama leaves the White House in Jan., of 2013, we can then start to say "It's Obama's fault". No we can't, because republicans take responsibility, something democrats are clueless about...responsibility!
And for the record, during modern history, Republicans drive up the debt and increase deficits.

Then Democrats come in and reduce the rate of debt growth and shrink deficits.

That's how it always happens. "Fiscally responsible conservative" is a myth.

Republican vs Democratic debt:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/calmar/223522338...

Republican vs Democratic deficits:
http://home.adelphi.edu/sbloch/deficits.html

They both increase under GOP Presidents and shrink under Democratic Presidents. This is historic fact.

"Fiscally responsible conservative" is an oxymoron and a myth.

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