Summit Academy Reform School
Julsie619

Grove City, PA

#122 Jan 18, 2011
My son was in trouble for destruction of property... spent some time in the "Keystone" system (Greenville PA) and then was sent to ABRAXAS for probation violation. My husband and I have tried everything and our son is lucky to have a supportive PO. After being home from ABRAXAS for 3 weeks, he has now violated his probation again. We have no ideas on how to keep our son away from this group of kids that he keeps going back to. We feel that our only hope is a place like Summit Academy. I hoped that he would recieve a good education there (he is very intelligent) and be able to participate in a sport (he's athletic as well). I also hoped that it would be a more normal school environment as opposed to ABRAXAS where he would spend the majority of his time wasting away in his room. After reading some of these comments, now I feel uneasy. Can anyone recommend a program for a kid that doesn't come from the inner city and has 2 supportive parents at home? We just want him to succeed and it looks as though we'll have to remove him from our community in order to do that. We cannot afford military school or private boarding schools. Any suggestions would help...
Thanks
Herman Girl

Washington, DC

#123 Apr 13, 2011
I grew up in Herman. The school used to be the novitiate for the Capuchin Brothers. When vocations dropped, they sold it to Summit Academy.

It is not accepted by the residents. They were not told of the pending sale; nor were they hired to help manage or run it. All outsiders. Butler is nearby but Butler has kind of ignored Herman except to go to the dances at the Herman Firehall.

The net effect of locating a school for teenage criminals is to shut down the rest of Herman. Let's face it -- it's dangerous now to live there. When the boys escape, they steal from the residents to survive.

The elementary school that has over a 100 year history closed last year. The school is within walking distance of the Academy. No one wants to risk their child being raped or assaulted.

You can look at the Butler Eagle online and for a couple of bucks retrieve articles about the doctor accused of sexually molesting a couple of the Academy residents.
bernie wrote:
I need info on this place rite away. My sister's only boy has gottin into a lil bit of trouble in Philly and he mite be sent to this place in Hermann,PA. Is this close to Butler? Or Pittsburg? I've heard its sort of like a boot camp only they wear ties and coats to make it look like something it reelly ain't. Just a front kinda thing to missleed folks whose kids get sentenced there.Some people I know in state corrections say its a little like Glenn Mills School,only not as good and rougher with lots of hands on punishment. Is it true that they were on a provizional lisence about a year or too or three ago? Somethin about a kid's face bein smashed into a window and a kid dying without the mother being contactted by these people at Summit. Some folks from around hear in York say he should go to Glenn Mills insted. Wood like to hear from anyone whos son or granson was there or those who atended there. Is it true if sentensed there you have to do 1 to 2 yeers? Maybe even 3 years? Any issues of concern in methids of physical punnishment?
graves

Brooklyn, NY

#124 Apr 23, 2011
I went to mars high in 2003 and we would play them in football among other sports. Two things I observed. One, back then they had a drum line and would sing the chorus to "who let the dogs out" except replace dogs with knights. Hilarious when you consider the whole reform school angle. Also, when playing against them it was common place to get your groin and throat punched while in a pile. Pretty much dirtiest players in the game at that time. Just some observations.
SUMMIT IS A JOKE

Washington, DC

#125 Apr 23, 2011
half the staff are scared of the delinquents there, half the kids get bullied by both the staff and those delinquents...they cover things up constantly ... two years ago a kid fell out a window and nearly died ... because they were under ratio on the floor .... the one director twyman is a phony ... favors people, chases tail and gives double standards to employees and you get treated like crap

this place is NOT good if you have a choice avoid it
yokey

Kittanning, PA

#126 Jun 14, 2011
I know someone who works there, he is a counselor. Trys to help the kids. some of them are receptive...some just fight it. Some of the kids are very angry,especially after coming off the streets. But when you have these kids who are violent, agressive and fight w/the staff, I heard the staff does fight back to defend themselves. It's a hard job and I give that person credit for even working there with the kids. If only they would give their counselors a chance to help change their lives...and believe me,this counselor is one of the best. I pray for this counselors life everyday when he goes to work.
I did work there

United States

#127 Aug 3, 2011
It sounds like your cousin or whoever would probably do 10 months or so if he is from Philly it would be a little longer. Of course there is a slight drama between Pittsburgh, North Philly, South Philly kids, but this is mostly because teenage boys need something to act tough about. The people at Summit care mostly about developing these boys or young men into quality people who follow norms of society. There is even female staff who the students are expected to respect equally. A student would only be physically restrained if he was to act in a complete violation or disruption of the standard.
I did work there

United States

#128 Aug 3, 2011
Herman Girl I believe you have a misperception of summit. Summit hires those of high character and a bachelor's degree is required. No student of Summit has raped another, or else that child would not be at summit. They are for the most part good kids with a background of significant misbehavior. Moving them away from a negative environment and into a positive one like they at least try to create at summit provides hope these kids get back on track.
toby colpetzer

Chambersburg, PA

#129 Nov 1, 2011
i went to this placement and it really isnt that bad. the only thing that was bad about it is that it is time comsuming. i did 6 months 22 days there and didnt get in any trouble while i was there. they are not bad staff i liked alot of them. its probably the only placement i would want to go back to.
tay

Madison, AL

#130 Apr 6, 2012
leonard wrote:
I was a former student at SUMMIT. Got me on track after a year. But that first place you go to is crazy, its a dude there named BIG J I don't know if he still there but he used to slam the shit outa dudes for fun.
when where u there i was there in 05-06 before the floors got seperated i was on the second floor they called me flashlight cause i was the only white boy lol... it was kinda crazy some times alot of fights and corrupt staff.... the staff was out of line sometimes a few of them would slam you for next to nothin but alot of times it was justified because theses arent small kids we are talking about so they were just defending them selves....
tay

Madison, AL

#131 Apr 6, 2012
I did work there wrote:
Herman Girl I believe you have a misperception of summit. Summit hires those of high character and a bachelor's degree is required. No student of Summit has raped another, or else that child would not be at summit. They are for the most part good kids with a background of significant misbehavior. Moving them away from a negative environment and into a positive one like they at least try to create at summit provides hope these kids get back on track.
and u need to think about that statement "They are for the most part good kids with a background of significant misbehavior." thats bullcrap.... i was there for robbing 3 stores im not proud of it but it is what it is..... alot of the kids there are just working up to be career criminals
Moderate

Orrstown, PA

#132 Apr 26, 2012
I would never let my children attend Summit. It is basically a prison for children, when most are simply there for minor drug or vandalism offenses. There are fights every day, the children are treated like hardened criminals, and after leaving I'm sure most of them are. Our prison system does not work and is even worst with minors. A great quote from the film Blow about George Jung:"Danbury wasn't a prison, it was a crime school. I went in with a Bachelor of marijuana, came out with a Doctorate of cocaine."
Alex

Bronx, NY

#133 Aug 4, 2012
Look bro I was in summit and it's exactly what you think when I was there I saw kids getting the shit beat out of them by staff for no reason, and it is a cover-up that place is horrible
Bryson

Cleveland, OH

#134 Aug 27, 2012
I herd dey got dogs with bees in their moufs, and when they bark, they shoot bees at you.
last one left

Wilmington, DE

#135 Sep 2, 2012
I have been at this so called crime school...yea true u can learn how to keep goin in life doin bads things better from listinin to one another there but its not all of them...some of them while I was there had really bad home envirments and didn't know what else to do. Others just love the game of crime. I don't judge either one. Everyone chooses their own path in life. Staff there did mess you up for talkin in formation but we did crimes so its justed. I recalled even gettin rolled on in my room by 7 other students for doin that. But my point is this all that happens in socitiy anyways people get harmed even from watching a movie in a movie theather. But by being in a place far from home and these kids that don't like you..you learn to adjust and go with the flow. I have learn more social skills there and how to show respect. You know for the most part this school allows you to advoid jail because a lot of them did have hard cases pending against them and they could get it erased from the records as long as you complete the program. All in all it was a tough exprisenes but I have learned from it and change my life from it. And you can just allow you kid to attend this school they are court ordered. It is suppose to be like a prison it holds kids that commited crimes. The good part was it didn't feel you where locked in.. it didn't have frences and aoutmacticed doors. That was the best part come to think about it there was any locked doors that I could see. So all in all it changes your life for the better if that's what you make of it just like prison. Hated summit academy but when you made it as far as I did you know it was a stepping stone in your life. of
Moderate wrote:
I would never let my children attend Summit. It is basically a prison for children, when most are simply there for minor drug or vandalism offenses. There are fights every day, the children are treated like hardened criminals, and after leaving I'm sure most of them are. Our prison system does not work and is even worst with minors. A great quote from the film Blow about George Jung:"Danbury wasn't a prison, it was a crime school. I went in with a Bachelor of marijuana, came out with a Doctorate of cocaine."
.
summit is corrupt

Pittsburgh, PA

#136 Sep 7, 2012
i worked here 7 years ago it is ran like the mob prob by the mob the staff bring in contraband for the kids to sell and of course the kids got abused we used to be required to have at least 3 restrains a day and thats just slamming a kid! its all about the money they clean and paint the place when tours or judges come set the tables and serve good food lmao not a place you would want your child . twyman and bachar lmao starsky and hutch! shouts to big russ and jeff on night crew!
Former teacher

Mayport, PA

#137 May 26, 2013
I worked at the summit academy for several years and I absolutely hated every day of my life while I was there. The teachers, staff, students and Counselors are set up for failure on Their first day. The teachers are often required to teach classes of twenty to thirty students in one classroom and there was often at least a group of four to five students that could and would ruin an entire lesson. These misbehaving students were mostly football or basketball players and often had their grades changed by administrators so they could play in games. I personally had at least four incidents where the administration tampered with my grades to pass athletes that did nothing in my class. There were also long stretches of time (months) where I literally taught nothing because of the behavior of the students, which went unnoticed by the principal. This has led me to leave the teaching field.
The building is also vastly understaffed and at times, there were only two staff in charge of almost sixty students during morning wake ups, which is a direct violation of law. As far as staff beating up students, it happened at times. Some staff were miserable excuses for human beings, while others do a great job at teaching and Counseling students. I have had students hit me, spit, swear and throw objects at me before, but there was at least two to three students in each class that had a future if they put their minds to it.
The building itself is a violation of health, as many rooms barely function. I personally had several classrooms flood due to rain and when I reported this, the administration would not fix the leak, because it was an expense. There were also many times in the summer when the water would not work, which was a hassle when you had a classroom of twenty five delinquents who had to use the bathroom.
I could continue my horror stories, but it basically boils down to this.
It's a terrible place to work for and to send kids to. It's a corrupted, polluted environment that is a front for money that goes straight to the owner and does not trickle down to students or staff.
It is run like a business, but only those at the top of the administration make money, while those under them do all the work.
mom in distress

United States

#138 Jun 6, 2013
What are the update about summit is there antagonize of the children up, do they pick On children that parents call to much with concerns about how staff deals with the children
mom in distress

El Monte, CA

#139 Jun 6, 2013
Former teacher wrote:
I worked at the summit academy for several years and I absolutely hated every day of my life while I was there. The teachers, staff, students and Counselors are set up for failure on Their first day. The teachers are often required to teach classes of twenty to thirty students in one classroom and there was often at least a group of four to five students that could and would ruin an entire lesson. These misbehaving students were mostly football or basketball players and often had their grades changed by administrators so they could play in games. I personally had at least four incidents where the administration tampered with my grades to pass athletes that did nothing in my class. There were also long stretches of time (months) where I literally taught nothing because of the behavior of the students, which went unnoticed by the principal. This has led me to leave the teaching field.
The building is also vastly understaffed and at times, there were only two staff in charge of almost sixty students during morning wake ups, which is a direct violation of law. As far as staff beating up students, it happened at times. Some staff were miserable excuses for human beings, while others do a great job at teaching and Counseling students. I have had students hit me, spit, swear and throw objects at me before, but there was at least two to three students in each class that had a future if they put their minds to it.
The building itself is a violation of health, as many rooms barely function. I personally had several classrooms flood due to rain and when I reported this, the administration would not fix the leak, because it was an expense. There were also many times in the summer when the water would not work, which was a hassle when you had a classroom of twenty five delinquents who had to use the bathroom.
I could continue my horror stories, but it basically boils down to this.
It's a terrible place to work for and to send kids to. It's a corrupted, polluted environment that is a front for money that goes straight to the owner and does not trickle down to students or staff.
It is run like a business, but only those at the top of the administration make money, while those under them do all the work.
can u give me details about how staff treats students who's parents call with concerns
Former teacher

Mayport, PA

#140 Jun 9, 2013
mom in distress wrote:
<quoted text>can u give me details about how staff treats students who's parents call with concerns
I've seen students completely change their attitude towards different staff members. Most of the time I've seen staff be accommodating but there were several times I have seen staff flip out over the most dumbest things. I would say about 75-80% of the staff do try their best to work with students while the other 20% have their own power trips to accommodate their egos. Sometimes that is necessary with some students and others it doesn't make any sense.

If you are concerned with the student, get ahold of the students district supervisor
mom in distress

United States

#141 Jun 17, 2013
Called the district supervisor no reply back they screen his calls and when I call it's always he's not available my son is sitting in the sanction unit watching kids that got sanctioned with him leave while he's still down there

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