Summit Academy Reform School
outraged nana

New Kensington, PA

#101 Jul 13, 2010
my grandson is at summit now and the place is full of shit. He was beat in his room at night by three different boys. the staff never seen the fights only knew there was one because my grandson had to get stiches and had a bad eye the next day. of cousre i have started alot heads rolling have contacted the judge, who is high upset as well, need less to say I know they will do everything in their power right now to keep him safe, they dont want no trouble(summit). I have requested he be removed from there asap, court hearing in days, wish me lucky and pray for grandsons daftey
Heeeey Arnold

Kittanning, PA

#102 Jul 13, 2010
Outraged Nana.... I think it is YOU that is full of shit. I'm sure that you "started alot of heads rolling". Nobody gives a shit about your criminal grandson, especially a judge at that!! HAHAHAHA
Just sounds like to me he can do the crime, but cant do the time!
What was he incarcerated for anyways? You failed to mention that.. or was someone else to blame for that also??
Pure New Ken trash....
Time for Change

Coraopolis, PA

#103 Jul 13, 2010
Granny, contact the folks here and complain if you get no resolution at the hearing. http://www.jlc.org/ . If you heard of the Luzerne County scandal where two judges were taking kickbacks for filling beds at two juvenile detention centers, one being in Butler County, these are the folk that uncovered this. A lot of good info on their website. If they get enough complaints they may look into it.

To keep complaining locally probably would not do much for you (a lot of politics involved). By going "outside", you may give Summit the trouble they don't want and get their attention.

As for what your grandson did, it's probably not relevant here. He did do something wrong to end up there. However, part of doing the time should not include being assaulted or violated in any way. If it is allowed to happen the purpose of his stay is meaningless. Restorative punishment should be what is in store for your grandson. He is a juvenile and should have an opportunity to correct his ways without being assaulted. It will send him the wrong message.
Homey

Bronx, NY

#104 Jul 14, 2010
The apple doesn't fall far from the tree, Nana is probably the ''Ma Barker'' of the family and needs her grandson for a wheelman
outraged Nana

New Kensington, PA

#105 Jul 14, 2010
Time for Change wrote:
Granny, contact the folks here and complain if you get no resolution at the hearing. http://www.jlc.org/ . If you heard of the Luzerne County scandal where two judges were taking kickbacks for filling beds at two juvenile detention centers, one being in Butler County, these are the folk that uncovered this. A lot of good info on their website. If they get enough complaints they may look into it.
To keep complaining locally probably would not do much for you (a lot of politics involved). By going "outside", you may give Summit the trouble they don't want and get their attention.
As for what your grandson did, it's probably not relevant here. He did do something wrong to end up there. However, part of doing the time should not include being assaulted or violated in any way. If it is allowed to happen the purpose of his stay is meaningless. Restorative punishment should be what is in store for your grandson. He is a juvenile and should have an opportunity to correct his ways without being assaulted. It will send him the wrong message.
thank you so much for your advice and kind words, my grandson has been removed for the summit and is now in jdc were he must sttill service his term till Aug 24 for tresspass, he did not complete his community service and had to service 90 for not doing so in a timely mannr, he really is a good kid who i feel will never and i repeat never crows the law in anyway again.
outraged Nana

New Kensington, PA

#106 Jul 14, 2010
Homey wrote:
The apple doesn't fall far from the tree, Nana is probably the ''Ma Barker'' of the family and needs her grandson for a wheelman
you sound like a backyard hillybilly with no sence to spend, may god look after you and yours, if you have anybody who cares about you......lmao
Homey

Bronx, NY

#107 Jul 15, 2010
Outraged Nana, if you think laughing your ass off will help your spelling and grandsons plight then by all means yuk it up but stay in new ken, us hillbillies don't need your type
Joan

Butler, PA

#108 Jul 16, 2010
I think homey probaly wears pink and orange.
Bud

Butler, PA

#109 Jul 16, 2010
Homey do you shut up and have some fried chicken and watermelon.
Homey

Bronx, NY

#110 Jul 19, 2010
what are you trying to say Bud ? be careful
just talk

New Kensington, PA

#111 Jul 19, 2010
Homey, why should we be careful?? You sound as though you wouldn't understand what we are saying anyways. And purple and yellow are proubly a better color for you.
Homey

Bronx, NY

#112 Jul 19, 2010
I understand the connection between fried chicken and watermelon to the color of skin. Who said I was black? From the looks of it you're just trolling outraged nana
Senior

New Kensington, PA

#113 Jul 19, 2010
No wonder our youth have so much trouble being good citizens, look at the adluts that surround them today. Are the same people running this Summit?? Is it no wonder they come out angrer then when they go in?? What do we teach them???
simple question

Washington, DC

#114 Jul 19, 2010
can someone please tell me how long the boys are typically in summit for? specifically the drug and alcohol program? if anyone who has worked there can answer this,that would be preferred.
thankyou.
Bud

Butler, PA

#115 Jul 20, 2010
You did.
Simple Answer

Coraopolis, PA

#116 Jul 21, 2010
I have a friend whose neighbor's kid was sent there and from what he said it sounds like the drug and alcohol program there is about 6 months. Hope this helps
the truth

Charlotte, NC

#117 Oct 3, 2010
i was locked up there for 8 months when i was 16. im 24 now. and i always thought it was so crazy because they do cover up how the place really is. when the probation officers would visit the kids would know they would be in extra trouble and made to stay longer if they would act up during their visit. and they keep a good chef to treat them to a specail meal when they would come. i seen alot of messed up things their and had messed up things happen to me. i got drug in a room with one of the biggest dude ive ever met joe malacki i think it was. and he beat my ass. and i dont mean just ruffed me up i was injured. and they sent me back to this other place they send you if you do something very bad called the rez. which is where you do your first month. while i was there i seen a staff punch a kid in the jaw and broke it and he never lost his job even. i seen the staff that worked at night allow one kid to go in another kids room and night so he could fight him. theres really alot i could say about the place. take it from me i would had rather been in a detention center passing time then that place. that place just made me pissed off.
A Mother Who Knows

Johnsonburg, PA

#118 Oct 4, 2010
second chances wrote:
<quoted text>It's better than prison.
My son was placed in Summit Academy, and the place is a joke. My son came out of there worse than ever. My son was placed in there on some petty charges, and was there 11 months. The staff abused him. They put some small town kids in a place with big time gang members and what did they learn? How to do crimes better. My son was sentenced to 6 months and without a hearing or anything, they kept him for 11 months. Butler County Children and Youth finally investegated and found that the staff member did assault my son. A cheeseburger and a snickers didn't keep my son's mouth shut. That staff member is no longer there. If I was you, I wouldn't send my kid or my worst enemy's kid there.
real

Latrobe, PA

#120 Oct 6, 2010
I was there. I aint saying it was anybodys fault. I did what I did and it is- what it is. But I was young and I learned from it! I'lll b responsible 4 mine! There is good & bad up there-students / staff they both b good & bad.
problem is the good ones are way out #. Both sudents and staff-when someone stand up. Dont matter who it is they b chopped down.
Thats REAL!!!!!!!!!!
Couple staff got your back. whats up Jonesey / Big Walt / AK / re-todd /Big tree/ old man sky walker!...They hard but real!!!!!!!!!!
"The Truth" NC /(if) you had a problem with Big Joe then you did something 2 em. Ya know that!
BE REAL!!!!!!!!!! He's one of the realest staff up that place! Ben, G, Chris,Capps,C-bert,those staff /they there 4 you! Someone talkz bout any them... its just cuz uz knuckleheads! THATS REAL!!!!!!!!!!
But there b fake ones 2. Bachar-Big Lou-The Big 3-Guy D-Lare- fat russ-caveman-fat ems- Uncle tom! I can keep goin but if u been there u know. if not- u will c it-if ur real! if u fake u'll fit right in anyways! aint nothin gonna change. As long as they keep making $$$$$ they will keep fakin gradz and puttn on the front.(cats cant read n write makn honor roll & graduatn)-just 2 ball!
They said the sports were there to help... but they wouldnt let u go home to play 4 a real program (even after ur timz up- theyd find reason2 keep u 4 the season)If ur a good athlete u'll be there xtra time. check the facts! Thats REAL!!!!!
Check how long the starters on the Hoop team b there!
n if they there to help / how lying bout grades doing that? isnt educaion more improtant? some of them cats cant even read their honor roll award-or the newspaper clippn bout there game! I had 2 read it 2 em - but they never miss a game?
WhaT! ThATS REAL!!!!!!!!!!
and b4 someone make a racist comment bout my writtin - I am educated went 2 Cal U & graduated / but I am wise enough to understand who the audience is and how 2 relate. I dont need 2 throw my education in someones face just cuz I can! I can b educated and keep it real! Get past the pre-conceived attitudes and JUDGE THE CONTENT! I could fit n ur world / u mentally fit enough 2 handle mine? JUDGE THE CONTENT!
Summit where the success stories (Chef- HA! 4 real somebody check em!) THATS REAL!!!!!!!!!!
"Ex-couonselor" you seem like you know a little. How many real dudes you got there? students or staff. most r fake and thats whats REAL! They will do whatever the high status cats think is ok! so entire program is fake! Tell me that aint right! What Im sayn is REAL! I bet thats why you found greener grass... you knew that stuff willnever change! BE REAL? Thats y they pay u cats so well. Make it hard 2 leave and keep ur mouths shut. How many staff u know fraid 2 leave cuz of $? Most staff with cribs n whips (company) they the worst! Company owns them!
THATS REAL!!!!!!!!!!
if u can avoid it cool -if u gotta b there then get to know one of those staff and u'll b alright. if not GOOD LUCK and hope u suck @ sports.. or u'll b there longer! Dont matter how ur behavior is!
THATS REAL!!!!!!!!!!
B-realz
RIP DA Smoke!
Concerned

Glenolden, PA

#121 Nov 24, 2010
bernie wrote:
<quoted text>
What do you mean by "second chance"? Do you work there? Sounds like you know a lot about it. The only other post was a proppaganda peice sayin all the good things about the placement. where are most of the boys from? Is there much fights between boys from diffrent places like Philly and Reading and Pittsburg? Are most boys charges petty or seriuos. Does the town accept the place? Can boys leave outfrom their? What is the longest they can keep sombody their? Why was they on a temporary status for awile? DO they seperate the vilent kids from the none-vilent ones? Any insiteful info would be grately apreeciated.
I personally know a young man that goes there and I would not recommened it to any parent who is trying to better their youth if your are trying to straighten youur kids act place them around motivated youth who are doing somethign positive so your child can immulate that ability in Summit the iids are surround by juvenielle youth who are waiting to get out and do th same negative things.

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