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Legal inequities force up tax bill for gay couples

There are 252 comments on the Asheville Citizen-Times story from Apr 11, 2008, titled Legal inequities force up tax bill for gay couples. In it, Asheville Citizen-Times reports that:

For gay couples, the April 15 tax filing deadline can be a reminder of the disparities they face, even in a nation that is becoming more accepting of same-sex couples.

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“James 2:10”

Since: Apr 08

London

#281 Apr 22, 2008
Will wrote:
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1.[FROM: ABSTRACT, Nature Genetics 11, 248 - 256 (1995)]
"Linkage between sexual orientation and chromosome Xq28 in males but not in females
Stella Hu, Angela M. L. Pattatucci, Chavis Patterson, Lin Li, David W. Fulker, Stacey S. Cherny, Leonid Kruglyak & Dean H. Hamer
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We have extended our analysis of the role of the long arm of the X chromosome (Xq28) in sexual orientation by DNA linkage analyses of two newly ascertained series of families that contained either two gay brothers or two lesbian sisters as well as heterosexual siblings. Linkage between the Xq28 markers and sexual orientation was detected for the gay male families but not for the lesbian families or for families that failed to meet defined inclusion criteria for the study of sex&#8722;linked sexual orientation. Our results corroborate the previously reported linkage between Xq28 and male homosexuality in selected kinships and suggest that this region contains a locus that influences individual variations in sexual orientation in men but not in women."
2.[FROM: "Transitions from heterosexuality to lesbianism: The discursive production of lesbian identities.", by Kitzinger, Celia, and Wilkinson, Sue, Developmental Psychology, Vol 31(1), Jan 1995. Special issue: Sexual orientation and human development. pp. 95-104.]:
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"This idea, that homosexuality and heterosexuality are fixed early on and persist relatively immutable to change, is reflected in the literature documenting the failure of conversion therapies (e.g., Halderman, 1991). It is frequently suggested that essentialism of such theories is a "straw man" erected by the social constructionists as a foil for their own perspective (cf. Stein, 1990, p. 326), but as has been argued elsewhere (C. Kitzinger, in press), such essentialist models of lesbianism and gay male identity development are, in fact, the norm, reflecting and perpetuating popular theories about homosexuality.
Essentialist arguments of this type fail to address the experience of many women. Recent research on heterosexuals who become lesbian (Golden, 1987) and on lesbians who become heterosexual (Bart, 1993) emphasizes the "fluctuating," "fluid," and "dynamic" nature of sexuality for "protean" women (pp. 246-247). Women's sexual fluidity has long been apparent in the psychological and sexological literature, but it is often submerged in the data rather than explicitly theorized. Drawing on data from Kinsey, Pomeroy, Martin, and Gebhard (1953), McIntosh (1968/1992) pointed out that
[I]t is interesting to notice that although at the age of 20 far more men than women have homosexual and bisexual patterns (27% as against 11%), by the age of 35 the figures are both the same (13%). Women seem to broaden their sexual experience as they get older, whereas more men become narrower and more specialised.(p. 154)
This simply refers to patterns of bisexuality in men and women which proves nothign apart from perhaps supporting the idea that bisexuality is caused by different genes in the different genders.

“James 2:10”

Since: Apr 08

London

#282 Apr 22, 2008
Will wrote:
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Most women who self-identify as lesbian do so only after an earlier period in their lives during which they identified as heterosexual. Researchers typically find that at least a quarter of their lesbian samples have been married (25%: Saghir & Robins, 1973; 35%: Bell & Weinberg, 1978), and estimates of the number of lesbians with heterosexual sexual experience range from 58%(Kenyon, 1968) to 84%(Bell & Weinberg, 1978)."
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Its called being in the closet - We've all been there, stop readign too much into meaningless data.

“James 2:10”

Since: Apr 08

London

#283 Apr 23, 2008
Will wrote:
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I disagree that Money assumed what you claim he assumed particularly about David Reimer and generally about sexual orientation necessarily aligning with gender identity.
But this discussion is already off the topic of "Legal inequities force up tax bill for gay couples" and so I'm not going to pursue my disagreement any further here.
Running away when things get a little hard to argue are we???:P

“Please don't feed the ignorant”

Since: Aug 07

the planet earth

#284 Apr 23, 2008
Prof rob wrote:
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Its called being in the closet - We've all been there, stop readign too much into meaningless data.
That is his M.O. He cherry picks data that supports his view, even when the overall picture of that data doesn't. Just look at the footnotes he provided - not a single resource from current research.

“James 2:10”

Since: Apr 08

London

#285 Apr 23, 2008
luckygirl1969 wrote:
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That is his M.O. He cherry picks data that supports his view, even when the overall picture of that data doesn't. Just look at the footnotes he provided - not a single resource from current research.
Heh - yer, i guess people will do anyhting to justify their viewpoint without acceptign they are prejudiced.
Will

Riderwood, MD

#286 Apr 23, 2008
LOL...whatever.

TOPIC: Legal inequities force up tax bill for gay couples

“Support the troops!”

Since: Mar 08

Waynesville, originally DC

#287 Apr 23, 2008
Will wrote:
LOL...whatever.
TOPIC: Legal inequities force up tax bill for gay couples
Yeah, that's what it says. And as a homosexual in a committed relationship I'm sick and tired of ignorant breeders getting all the tax breaks.
Someone find me a lesbian who just want's tax breaks and who will sign a prenup so we can both be rewarded as the breeders have for all these years.

“PO'd Puddy Cat”

Since: Jan 08

Asheville NC

#288 Apr 23, 2008
Innkeeper wrote:
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Yeah, that's what it says. And as a homosexual in a committed relationship I'm sick and tired of ignorant breeders getting all the tax breaks.
Someone find me a lesbian who just want's tax breaks and who will sign a prenup so we can both be rewarded as the breeders have for all these years.
Afternoon Innkeeper! I know how you feel. As a single female I don't get the tax breaks either. The government doesn't take into consideration that there is only one income to pay all the same bills as a two income household.

“Support the troops!”

Since: Mar 08

Waynesville, originally DC

#289 Apr 24, 2008
Carolinakat wrote:
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Afternoon Innkeeper! I know how you feel. As a single female I don't get the tax breaks either. The government doesn't take into consideration that there is only one income to pay all the same bills as a two income household.
Hey Ckat...happy day before FRIDAY!!

It's a shame a certain class of Americans, in this case "married heterosexuals," receive "special" benefits when a much larger class of Americans, in this case SINGLE Americans, get none. We bear the burden for giving those people special rights and it is high time to revolt!!

I will admit I enjoy a much higher income than many people in my town and I don't mind paying my fair share but it just ticks me off when I see some folks whining because we think every American should enjoy the same special tax treatment. It's elietist and condesending to hear them whine about sharing the wealth.

“Why do ya need to know that?”

Since: Feb 07

Leicester

#290 Apr 24, 2008
Innkeeper wrote:
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Hey Ckat...happy day before FRIDAY!!
It's a shame a certain class of Americans, in this case "married heterosexuals," receive "special" benefits when a much larger class of Americans, in this case SINGLE Americans, get none. We bear the burden for giving those people special rights and it is high time to revolt!!
I will admit I enjoy a much higher income than many people in my town and I don't mind paying my fair share but it just ticks me off when I see some folks whining because we think every American should enjoy the same special tax treatment. It's elietist and condesending to hear them whine about sharing the wealth.
It is quite simple....if you havent paid the amount in, you shouldnt get it back. Thats rewarding people for populating the earth with children they can ill afford.

Being married with no kids is no picnic either, when it comes to taxes.

Since: Feb 08

Hendersonville, NC

#291 Apr 24, 2008
you know what grips me is women that draw child support from more than one father.1 o.k. maybe it didn't work out once,but twice,or three times,just give it up . i i know my ex don't keep grocery money for child and cigarette money in separate piles.then told when i go to pick child up that he doesn't want to go,and then i have never done anything for the child but pay child support.amazing and its almost over now kid don't even want to go to school,and that o.k. too but not with me.child supports tax free and not deductable and that just your problem ,sorry personal grip and visitation practicly unenforceable .

Since: Dec 07

Asheville

#292 Apr 24, 2008
Carolinakat wrote:
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As a single female I don't get the tax breaks either. The government doesn't take into consideration that there is only one income to pay all the same bills as a two income household.
Ugh. That's the truth CKat. No tax breaks at all and only one exemption. Terrible!

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