should we move to Berwyn?

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jro

Oak Park, IL

#1 Feb 19, 2008
We're currently living in an Oak Park condo, no children, and we're doing reasonably well career wise. We're coming to the point that we'd really like to be in a house instead of a condo tho, and that isn't in the cards yet for us in Oak Park.

I've read a few of the more active posts about what people feel may be wrong with life in Berwyn today. I'd, love to hear what many of you love about Berwyn, and if there are any specific areas to look at, or avoid.

And if you're opinion is anti-Berwyn, why? And where would you look for reasonably priced housing?

Note: We don't have any children yet, so the schools aren't really a concern at this point, but transportation, safety, and living in an economically vibrant community are.

Thanks to anyone that has time to respond.

-jro
Present-Berwynit e

Wilmington, IL

#2 Feb 19, 2008
No problem. I'd highly recommend that you go check out the Illinois City-Data Forum or the Berwyn Talk Forum if you want fair and unbiased information about this community. This really isn't the place for that. As you may or may not have been able to tell, there are a few posters here, one in particular, who have adopted Topix as their venue to bash the community (particularly its Latino residents) at every opportunity. They hide behind unregistered screen names and pretty much have unlimited reign to post hate-motivated trash that they wouldn't have the guts to say in real life.

I can say that if this is the only forum you've read, the reality of Berwyn is about 1,000 times better than what you'd imagine. It's diverse, has interesting housing stock, and largely safe. Definitely on the upswing. It was at one time known as racist but most of those folks left a long time ago -- with their present influence limited to boards like these. I think it has a bright future and is a great value in this market now. As I said, research it. Good luck!
Speakin da trut

Chicago, IL

#3 Feb 19, 2008
We wanted to live in Oak Park, but couldn't afford the homes, so we moved to South Berwyn in May 2007. We love our home and what we received for our money, our neighbors are pleasant and we are just steps away from Metra. Many young couples are moving to the streets near the Metra line between OPA and Harlem. If you are looking for a vibrant downtown area or any decent retail or restaurants, you'll have to go to Oak Park or other surrounding communities. We have a very young child, and heard that the Berwyn elementary schools are wonderful. The high school, on the other hand, is awful. We've got lots of years before that will become an issue. Good luck!
rico

Fairport, NY

#4 Feb 19, 2008
I'm spanish and moved to Berwyn in 1988, because it was quiet and no problems. I could have lived in Cicero for $30,000 cheaper at the time but saw what it was like. In 1993 the 1st year the Morton West expanded it's school and that's when the troubles began. First day of school and there's a gang shooting in front of the school and it makes the news. I've moved outta there a few years ago and have relatives who are trying to. If your gonna move there be sure to buy a home south of Cermack.
Stay away from 16th to 22!!!!! that's a section 8 haven.
Present-Berwynit e

Wilmington, IL

#5 Feb 19, 2008
Speakin da trut wrote:
We wanted to live in Oak Park, but couldn't afford the homes, so we moved to South Berwyn in May 2007. We love our home and what we received for our money, our neighbors are pleasant and we are just steps away from Metra. Many young couples are moving to the streets near the Metra line between OPA and Harlem. If you are looking for a vibrant downtown area or any decent retail or restaurants, you'll have to go to Oak Park or other surrounding communities. We have a very young child, and heard that the Berwyn elementary schools are wonderful. The high school, on the other hand, is awful. We've got lots of years before that will become an issue. Good luck!
Elementary schools score well, yes, particularly in your Dist. 100. The HS isn't great (I reserve the term “awful” for the Provisos and most Chicago public high schools) but, yea, I know. Good news is a group of residents are working towards consolidating the schools into one unit district, which should help immensely at the HS level. Right now, the HS District is shared with Cicero, which doesn't benefit Berwyn, to put it nicely. Gentrification (those young couples) will also help, i.e. smaller class sizes and more money per student.

Berwyn was on CLTV’s Metromix something like 3 times last year. La Notte, Czech Plaza and La Española Tapas Bar are all good restaurants. And Olive or Twist, Cigars and Stripes, and the James Joyce are fun bars. I think better options will come as time goes on.

Some people see an African-American and just assume Section 8 but that’s not always true. You can always improve on renters though. The Berwyn Housing Center (same people and mission as the Oak Park Regional Housing Center) just opened last fall, and should offer improvement in the quality of renter coming into the city. They’re focused now on drawing in students, medical residents, young professionals, and people from European and Asian demographics as renters, a good idea.

“A.K.A. Don Quixote”

Since: Sep 07

Berwyn from 1970 - 2000

#6 Feb 19, 2008
Ex-berwynite , but I have pleasant things to say about Berwyn .

I would definitely have to say that it is in the upswing , I didn't move out Berwyn because I felt that my family had to get out , we sold our home and continued living in Berwyn unfortunately my Mom was ill and we rented for 8 years , when we decided to buy another house we went to neighboring N.Riverside.

Have been in N.Riverside for 7 years now and last summer we got new neighbors with THUG kids , I got 50 cent living behind my house now..... LOL
and that's all it takes , irresponsible adults not watching their kids and their friends.

This summer I'm gonna be calling the Po-Leece everytime I see these kids and their punk friends up to no good.

“A.K.A. Don Quixote”

Since: Sep 07

Berwyn from 1970 - 2000

#7 Feb 19, 2008
I got off the subject and forgot that these forums don't have editing features to go back.

My point is that there are many classy hard working people that live in Berwyn and surrounding areas and eventhough you may see one person out of place it doesn't mean that a particular section in town is mostly section 8.

I do alot of walking in North Berwyn during the summer and I see alot of nice people spending time with their kids and maintaining their properties, your always gonna have some nuisance but all you can do if it's real bad is call the police.
rico

Fairport, NY

#8 Feb 20, 2008
By the sounds of sirens I hear a lot around Berwyn a lot of residents must be calling police.
Don Quixote

Normal, IL

#9 Feb 21, 2008
rico wrote:
By the sounds of sirens I hear a lot around Berwyn a lot of residents must be calling police.
You sure spend alot of time in and around Berwyn.
rico

Fairport, NY

#10 Feb 21, 2008
On Friday nights, Saturday & Sunday afternoons.
Once in a while during a week day.
Plus I used to live there not too long ago so I know what's going on and post the truth.
I know a lot of my posts are not politically correct but I'm spanish so I can get away with it.
Present-Berwynit e

Wilmington, IL

#11 Feb 21, 2008
I've a very strong feeling our little purveyor of the truth isn't telling the truth on where he lives. That should cast doubt on everything he says.
for real

United States

#12 Feb 21, 2008
why cant some of these mex.blacks and others move to neb.or some mid west state were they will have to work .then berwyn,and cicero will clean its self up like it used to be
rico

Fairport, NY

#13 Feb 21, 2008
for real wrote:
why cant some of these mex.blacks and others move to neb.or some mid west state were they will have to work .then berwyn,and cicero will clean its self up like it used to be
The Mexicans are all over the place and that's why Immagration has become a hot topic these last few years. There is damn graffiti all over the place now.
hi folks

United States

#14 Feb 22, 2008
rico wrote:
<quoted text> The Mexicans are all over the place and that's why Immagration has become a hot topic these last few years. There is damn graffiti all over the place now.
hate to keep living in past but when i was there in the 70s.lol. the only graffiti,i saw was american-grafffiti,at the berwyn theator.iguess its gone now.dam nice place then
rico

Fairport, NY

#15 Feb 23, 2008
But graffiti back then wasn't like it is today with it on STOP signs, buisness windows.
Larry D

United States

#16 Feb 26, 2008
The best way I can answer this question is would you like to move to Cicero???? Because as much as people from Berwyn try to distance themsleves from Cicero they are the same two towns. Things just continue to progress westward. Current Berwyn is Cicero in the early 90's. It will be following the same pattern.

Throw in the same people run the towns politically and well, you should get the idea. I love the area because of it's location to the city but it ends there. I would avoid if I were you. You not having kids is the only upside, if you have kids run and hide
rico

Fairport, NY

#17 Feb 26, 2008
Yep, if you have kids forget about Berwyn.
You'll just have to be taking them to a private school and not because of the teachers. Not the excuse Arnie Duncan of CPS likes to use when he wants to shut down schools or fire teachers.
Rob Cary

Aurora, MO

#18 Feb 26, 2008
Larry D wrote:
The best way I can answer this question is would you like to move to Cicero???? Because as much as people from Berwyn try to distance themsleves from Cicero they are the same two towns. Things just continue to progress westward. Current Berwyn is Cicero in the early 90's. It will be following the same pattern.
Throw in the same people run the towns politically and well, you should get the idea. I love the area because of it's location to the city but it ends there. I would avoid if I were you. You not having kids is the only upside, if you have kids run and hide
Pretty ridiculous statement. Cicero is a unique town with a long history of corruption. The IVB which runs Berwyn isn't the same as Larry D's party, in fact the two groups don't even get along. And Berwyn's elementary school districts actually do pretty well as some people said above.

Let me guess, that both have larger Latino populations makes you advise avoiding them? It's good people moving into Pilsen, Logan Square and Humbolt Park aren't so narrow minded.
Speakin da trut

Chicago, IL

#19 Feb 26, 2008
Sure, skip Berwyn and try to buy a home in La Grange or Oak Park. You'll find very quickly that you'll be able to afford a only teardown or a home that hasn't been updated since the 1950s. Factor in another $100,000 in renovations or repairs in your sale price. In Berwyn, you have a better chance of finding something affordable and still be able to update if needed. Be picky about the neighborhood you choose in Berwyn, get involved in the community and care about your property and you'll be happy here.
Present-Berwynit e

Wilmington, IL

#20 Feb 26, 2008
Larry D wrote:
The best way I can answer this question is would you like to move to Cicero???? Because as much as people from Berwyn try to distance themsleves from Cicero they are the same two towns. Things just continue to progress westward. Current Berwyn is Cicero in the early 90's. It will be following the same pattern.

Throw in the same people run the towns politically and well, you should get the idea. I love the area because of it's location to the city but it ends there. I would avoid if I were you. You not having kids is the only upside, if you have kids run and hide
Yessiree, and we all know what “It” means, don’t we? That “wave” of big bad scary Mexicans. Eeeeeek! Run for the hills Martha! Palos Hills that is. It’s such an easy to predict path, just get out of the way and we’ll live happily ever after, right?

Here’s a good article from this month’s Atlantic Monthly to read before you do that though….

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200803/subprim...

I guess you gotta do what you think you gotta do. But you don’t want to end up out of the frying pan and into the fire if you know what I mean.

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