Gun control LAW
gomer-ez

Manchester, KY

#62 Jan 24, 2013
Yeah wrote:
Not sure where you're going, but I'd like to know.
The fact that armed men attack schools is enough reason to place armrd men there to protect them.
Why wouldn't you?
Sorry my ansewer overlapped this post.
Yeah

Lexington, KY

#63 Jan 24, 2013
No, I know you're not anti-gun. You still haven't said "why" we shouldn't guard schools with guns. You've only said that it's not a good idea. Why?
gomer-ez

Manchester, KY

#64 Jan 24, 2013
Yeah wrote:
No, I know you're not anti-gun. You still haven't said "why" we shouldn't guard schools with guns. You've only said that it's not a good idea. Why?
Guns and kids do not mix.
Lets say there are 500 students at a school.You have a poorly trained person with a gun.the students have possibility of being shot by the guard also.If these people were swat trained they may be a little safer.Would you want a bank guard to guard the students,I don;t think so.How many bank guards have stopped a robbery?
The whole object is not letting a gunman enter the school grounds.
The reason I said poorly trained,if they are not of the highest trained personel.I would not want them guarding students.It is not the same as securing a bank.
Yeah

Lexington, KY

#65 Jan 24, 2013
All good points. But, I still see guards allowing access into the school. How would they stop an armed man at the gate without weapons. I don't propose we have armed men patroling the halls, only the points of access. They'd be outside to school.
gomer-ez

Manchester, KY

#66 Jan 24, 2013
Yeah wrote:
All good points. But, I still see guards allowing access into the school. How would they stop an armed man at the gate without weapons. I don't propose we have armed men patroling the halls, only the points of access. They'd be outside to school.
OK now we are getting on the same page.
gomer-ez

Manchester, KY

#67 Jan 24, 2013
Ok.now how do we protect the guard from the students?We know there are some little A-holes out there always pulling pranks.lol
Yeah

Lexington, KY

#68 Jan 24, 2013
gomer-ez wrote:
Ok.now how do we protect the guard from the students?We know there are some little A-holes out there always pulling pranks.lol
I don't know who's giving you peanuts, it's a good question. The guards would have to be armed with nonlethal weapons as well. Tasers, pepper spray and whatever else works. I also like the idea of making the class rooms secure so when the threat alarm goes off, teachers could hide the students safely in the rooms.
JLP

Knoxville, IL

#69 Jan 24, 2013
Just what we need, more cops in schools... How many 10 year olds have to be tazed and handcuffed before we see this is a bad idea. Next we'll see some overweight cop shooting a kid for refusing to put the pencil down. Deadly weapon, followed dept. procedure, nothing to see here...
Think

Somerset, KY

#70 Jan 24, 2013
gomer-ez wrote:
<quoted text>
Guns and kids do not mix.
Lets say there are 500 students at a school.You have a poorly trained person with a gun.the students have possibility of being shot by the guard also.If these people were swat trained they may be a little safer.Would you want a bank guard to guard the students,I don;t think so.How many bank guards have stopped a robbery?
The whole object is not letting a gunman enter the school grounds.
The reason I said poorly trained,if they are not of the highest trained personel.I would not want them guarding students.It is not the same as securing a bank.
Also, the NRA who opposes background checks of any kind because it infringes on the individual's right to privacy is asking for "community volunteers" to guard the schools. Are these "volunteers" going to submit to a background check? From what I've read, the NRA opposes this as well. If they don't screen these people, how long do you think it will be before we have armed pedophiles walking the halls of our schools?
gomer-ez

Manchester, KY

#71 Jan 24, 2013
JLP wrote:
Just what we need, more cops in schools... How many 10 year olds have to be tazed and handcuffed before we see this is a bad idea. Next we'll see some overweight cop shooting a kid for refusing to put the pencil down. Deadly weapon, followed dept. procedure, nothing to see here...
That was a half hearted ansewer,But did you go to high school?You never tried to prank the janitor,or teacher?
That is how I know there are some little a-holes out there.And I took the ansewer lighted hearted also.Lighten up.
gomer-ez

Manchester, KY

#72 Jan 24, 2013
Think wrote:
<quoted text>
Also, the NRA who opposes background checks of any kind because it infringes on the individual's right to privacy is asking for "community volunteers" to guard the schools. Are these "volunteers" going to submit to a background check? From what I've read, the NRA opposes this as well. If they don't screen these people, how long do you think it will be before we have armed pedophiles walking the halls of our schools?
That is not going to happen.I hope.If we have to have armed guards in the schools.They should have to have class "A" training,and a FBI back ground check.
Like another post said,there would not be armed guards roaming the school.
gomer-ez

Manchester, KY

#73 Jan 24, 2013
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't know who's giving you peanuts, it's a good question. The guards would have to be armed with nonlethal weapons as well. Tasers, pepper spray and whatever else works. I also like the idea of making the class rooms secure so when the threat alarm goes off, teachers could hide the students safely in the rooms.
I don't pay a whole lot of attention to the peanuts and negative stuff.I look at it as a misunderstanding.
On topix it is just an opinion.And that is what this is all about
Yeah

Lexington, KY

#74 Jan 24, 2013
Think wrote:
<quoted text>
Also, the NRA who opposes background checks of any kind because it infringes on the individual's right to privacy is asking for "community volunteers" to guard the schools. Are these "volunteers" going to submit to a background check? From what I've read, the NRA opposes this as well. If they don't screen these people, how long do you think it will be before we have armed pedophiles walking the halls of our schools?
Good point, I don't think I like the volunteer idea and gomer-ez makes a good point about keeping the guards on the perimeter. Students access to guards would have to be extremely limited and controled. No TSA types.
I think we can all agree that leaving them unprotected is not a part of the equation.
gomer-ez

Manchester, KY

#75 Jan 24, 2013
Think wrote:
<quoted text>
Also, the NRA who opposes background checks of any kind because it infringes on the individual's right to privacy is asking for "community volunteers" to guard the schools. Are these "volunteers" going to submit to a background check? From what I've read, the NRA opposes this as well. If they don't screen these people, how long do you think it will be before we have armed pedophiles walking the halls of our schools?
Who cares what the nra says?I do not like affiliating myself with any political party.
drizzt

Barbourville, KY

#76 Jan 24, 2013
Ok. From what I've gathered so far most peoples reasons for not wanting armed guards is lack of training and extra cost. It just so happens that this country has well trained personnel already on the payroll, called The National Guard. Anyone have a reason thats not feasible?

Since: Nov 08

Corbin Ky.

#77 Jan 24, 2013
More people are killed because of alcohol than with guns. If the govt. were trying to ban alcohol all alcohol related deaths would be plastered all over the media like every gun death is.

Can someone answer why it is that we rail so much about gun deaths and not any other cause of death when evidence shows that gun deaths are far below the others?

"gun deaths vs alcohol deaths"

"alcohol related deaths out number gun related deaths by more than 100 to one but we have gotten so used to dui related deaths that we hardly notice unless one happens to someone we know or someone in our community

why not the same uproar over alcohol related deaths as gun related deaths or perhaps more

how many dui related deaths achieve national headlines vs how many gun related deaths"

http://www.justplainpolitics.com/showthread.p...

Adam Lanza was denied the purchase of a rifle just days before the shooting, what more do you all want?

"Adam Lanza Tried to Buy Rifle Three Days Before Massacre
Posted on December 15, 2012 by Dan Zimmerman"

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/12/dani...

Since: Nov 08

Corbin Ky.

#78 Jan 24, 2013
drizzt wrote:
Ok. From what I've gathered so far most peoples reasons for not wanting armed guards is lack of training and extra cost. It just so happens that this country has well trained personnel already on the payroll, called The National Guard. Anyone have a reason thats not feasible?
I said this right after the shooting.

If president Obama cared about the security of our children he would have called out the National Guard to protect the schools until something permanent could be done.
gomer-ez

Manchester, KY

#79 Jan 24, 2013
wowed wrote:
<quoted text>
I said this right after the shooting.
If president Obama cared about the security of our children he would have called out the National Guard to protect the schools until something permanent could be done.
Does Kent State ring a bell?

Since: Nov 08

Corbin Ky.

#80 Jan 24, 2013
gomer-ez wrote:
<quoted text>
Does Kent State ring a bell?
Four dead in Ohio, as the song goes. Yes I remember it well. Are you saying that having the National Guard in our schools today would result in much the same?
Grey Boxer

London, KY

#81 Jan 24, 2013
I think all the media coverage is a bad thing. Back in the day when a kid was depressed and tired of being picked on and treated like crap they just committed suicide and was done with it. Now they watch the news and see all the pain they can inflict and suddenly it seems like a good idea.

Reminds me of the song Teenagers by My Chemical Romance.

"The boys and girls in the clique
The awful names that they stick
You're never gonna fit in much, kid
But if you're troubled and hurt
What you got under your shirt
Will make them pay for the things that they did

They said all teenagers scare the living siht out of me
They could care less as long as someone'll bleed
So darken your clothes or strike a violent pose
Maybe they'll leave you alone, but not me"

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