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firefighter getting paid for private service

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tax payer

Tucker, GA

#1 Jan 11, 2013
A conflict of volunteer fireman leading funerals at lcfh with red lights while the county insurance would be held liable for his actions while he is getting private pay. The county vehicle coverage is insured thru allen crawford which is board member and co owner of lcfh. No other funeral home receives this private service and if there is a accident then the county insurance would have to pay. Id say this is a conflict for sure!
old dawg

Lexington, KY

#2 Jan 11, 2013
why would the county be held liable he isn't on a call.

Since: Sep 08

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#3 Jan 11, 2013
Firemen have and should traditionally escort the funerals of fallen comrades - Final show of brotherly love and respect -
Duh

Brownsville, TN

#4 Jan 11, 2013
old dawg wrote:
why would the county be held liable he isn't on a call.
Because its a county vehicle.
pulaski gal

Gray, KY

#5 Jan 11, 2013
Most funerals in pulaski co get escort by police/saftey officer. So how is this any different?

“It is what it is, folks!!”

Since: Feb 10

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#6 Jan 11, 2013
tax payer wrote:
A conflict of volunteer fireman leading funerals at lcfh with red lights while the county insurance would be held liable for his actions while he is getting private pay. The county vehicle coverage is insured thru allen crawford which is board member and co owner of lcfh. No other funeral home receives this private service and if there is a accident then the county insurance would have to pay. Id say this is a conflict for sure!
The people who are being laid to rest are local tax paying citizens. Why then should they not have an escort when one is needed?

Someone here has their Spiderman Underoos in a wad over something, and I don't think it has a lick to do with escorting any funeral procession..

And can you please provide valid proof to back up that statement "no other funeral home receives this private service"?
(Funny thing, that comment. I've seen plenty of funeral processions around here being guided along by police/fire escorts... Correct me if I'm wrong.

(I am proud to say there is STILL a little bit of decency and courtesy left in this world, albeit a rarity in these times)..
gonzo

East Bernstadt, KY

#7 Jan 11, 2013
tax payer wrote:
A conflict of volunteer fireman leading funerals at lcfh with red lights while the county insurance would be held liable for his actions while he is getting private pay. The county vehicle coverage is insured thru allen crawford which is board member and co owner of lcfh. No other funeral home receives this private service and if there is a accident then the county insurance would have to pay. Id say this is a conflict for sure!
You probably don't even pay taxes.....there is no difference between a volunteer firemen doing this than a city or county employee...how do you know they are being paid? JMO
uncle

Tucker, GA

#9 Jan 12, 2013
I understand what your posting and I agree that its a conflict especialy when the insurance representive (crawford) is part owner of the private business paying this fireman to escort funerals covered by county insurance coverage. This needs brought up in physical court and attorney general needs notified to conflict.
shame

Tucker, GA

#15 Jan 12, 2013
If this is true, the fire chief needs notified and county judge because he should be removed from fire dept. And another insurance company should be awarded insurance contract.
Rubin

Hoffman Estates, IL

#16 Jan 12, 2013
The gentleman that escorts funerals for LCFH drives his own personal (he has two) vehicle and the funeral pays him out if their pockets. And i'm sure he pays his own insurance.
shame

Tucker, GA

#17 Jan 13, 2013
His authority to go thru red lights is by running red lights of being a fireman and a fireman is covered by county insurance if running those red lights. Im sure if there was a accident a attorney would bring out the issue this person is hired by the insurer of the county insurance to escort for pay all of the funeral for a funeral home which the insuer owns part of but by the authority of being covered by running fire red lights the county would be held liable for accidents. Just wait and read all about when someone sues the insurer and the counry for unethical practice. Any way you look at it, its wrong. If he was doing this service for free and for all funeral then there wouldnt be an issue.

Since: Sep 08

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#18 Jan 13, 2013
shame wrote:
His authority to go thru red lights is by running red lights of being a fireman and a fireman is covered by county insurance if running those red lights. Im sure if there was a accident a attorney would bring out the issue this person is hired by the insurer of the county insurance to escort for pay all of the funeral for a funeral home which the insuer owns part of but by the authority of being covered by running fire red lights the county would be held liable for accidents. Just wait and read all about when someone sues the insurer and the counry for unethical practice. Any way you look at it, its wrong. If he was doing this service for free and for all funeral then there wouldnt be an issue.
So , just so we're clear on this , if he ain't gettin' paid , he can run red lights and not worry about anything ?- Horse hockey , let the guy work and provide a service - No difference in whomever this is and a Constable doing the same thing - Police Officers protect the living , so why shouldn't the deceased get protection from a civic minded citizen ?-This could be the same volunteer that saves your house & family from a fire - Gonna complain then ?-

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Since: Aug 12

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#19 Jan 13, 2013
Just pull over and allow ALL Funeral Processions the Right-a-way.
pore ole rodney king

Jamestown, KY

#20 Jan 13, 2013
I, for one, like to see an escort to a funeral procession. Sometimes it calls my attention to the situation and causes me to take certain precautions. A slow moving convoy can pose traffic hazards and the escort helps diminish the risk.

More than one escort vehicle would be even safer, placed at strategic locations in a lengthy convoy. It isn't usually to honor the dead (for what beneficial honor makes sense to someone that is dead) but to provide a certain amount of safety to the mourners.

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