sandy hook fake?

“Boogie Chill'un”

Since: Dec 08

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#87 Jan 24, 2013
Yiago wrote:
And for the record I have no idea if we can intercept a nuke. I know that the technology is not foolproof and I know that a nuclear missile is not a passenger plane. Huge difference. Shoot one down and you prevent a bomb, shoot the other down and you kill hundreds of innocent people.
Kinda important.
That's true, but, ultimately, those folks perished, and so did 3000 others who COULD have been saved. Thanks God for those brave souls on flight 93, or there's no telling how many people we would have lost that day.

It's been stated that W got a memo on August 6 of Bin Laden's plans.....Clinton could have stopped him 6 years earlier.

Since: Nov 08

Corbin Ky.

#88 Jan 24, 2013
Yiago wrote:
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I linked you to an explicitly Conservative website, the last place on earth you'd find someone involved in a conspiracy to take away your guns (that is what this is about, right?). And they quote the police who were on the scene.
You are anomaly hunting. That means you are looking for ANY sort of discrepancy and pointing to it as evidence of a conspiracy. This is Conspiracy Theory 101. In your post you quibble over words like "most" vs. "all" as if that was enough evidence to suggest there is a conspiracy.
Look, I'm not going to engage you in this any further. Just understand that children are dead and parent are still grieving. It's extremely offensive to be promoting this kind of scavenger-hunting nonsense.
On your avitar it says, "Question, Explore, Discover" but you seem to speak against actually doing that. I agree with walt that things don't add up and to bury your head in the sand is not the answer concerned Americans are looking for.

I think that most all of America grieves over this tragedy, not just the parents and families of those killed.

“Sixteen Tons”

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#89 Jan 24, 2013
It is a tragedy. There are many questions that must be answered.
alarms going off

Somerset, KY

#90 Jan 24, 2013
Grey Boxer wrote:
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I agree, excellent post. The Zeitgeist movie is excellent. Even the part on religion is well done and it will make you think.
Thank you. The Global Warming is a trigger for extinction of our civilization. Why are these pollution spewing corporations allowed to dispence trillions of units (of toxins) into our ozygen??(EVERY DAY) and our world leaders not up in arms???Why are our needs as a whole being denied??They DO NOT CARE ABOUT US!!!
Oh and to the smart ass commentor-you just keep your eyes trained on that fancy phone, and that screen. You'll never know what hit you.Leave the real thinking up to the smart ones.
Old Timer

Racine, OH

#91 Jan 24, 2013
Yiago wrote:
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Are you kidding? The moment something incorrect hits it there's a half a dozen "needs citation" or "needs improvement" warnings.
It is the most comprehensive encyclopedia in the history of the world. It is a rational place to begin a casual bit of research. It is for the lay public.
You are delusional or uneducated. The people who, "know," have not the unpaid time to police wikipedia. It's a rabble site. Sometimes right, often wrong.
Grey Boxer

London, KY

#92 Jan 24, 2013
The 911 conspiracy reminds me of the Pearl Harbor conspiracy. They knew something was going to happen but they needed it to so they would have the support of the people to enter the war. After Pearl Harbor there were people begging to join the military. After 911 America was all about killing every single "terrorist' no matter what country we had to invade to accomplish this.

That's the nice thing about opinions, everyone gets a few of them.

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#93 Jan 24, 2013
Have you heard, everything on the internet has to be true.

“Boogie Chill'un”

Since: Dec 08

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#94 Jan 24, 2013
Grey Boxer wrote:
The 911 conspiracy reminds me of the Pearl Harbor conspiracy. They knew something was going to happen but they needed it to so they would have the support of the people to enter the war. After Pearl Harbor there were people begging to join the military. After 911 America was all about killing every single "terrorist' no matter what country we had to invade to accomplish this.
That's the nice thing about opinions, everyone gets a few of them.
Yeah....that's where Ventura is coming from....exactly as you describe it. He is also investigating other options. He questions a lot, leaves questions, you decide, or leave your options open as he does. He also shoots down the more ridiculous conspiracy theories, but you never see them report that aspect of his search for truth. So far, he has one episode that has never made it to air, and one about the FEMA camps that has been pulled from the rerun cycle. Despite very good ratings, his show has been moved all over the schedule and is now in limbo. You decide .....
Grey Boxer

London, KY

#95 Jan 24, 2013
JumperJuice wrote:
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Yeah....that's where Ventura is coming from....exactly as you describe it. He is also investigating other options. He questions a lot, leaves questions, you decide, or leave your options open as he does. He also shoots down the more ridiculous conspiracy theories, but you never see them report that aspect of his search for truth. So far, he has one episode that has never made it to air, and one about the FEMA camps that has been pulled from the rerun cycle. Despite very good ratings, his show has been moved all over the schedule and is now in limbo. You decide .....
I watched part of one of his shows, something about underground cities, depopulating some places and something about the Ozark and some banks. Didn't really get to watch it but I did find it interesting, I like that stuff.

“Not afraid to stand alone.”

Since: Jun 09

Flat Lick Ky.

#96 Jan 24, 2013
Ventura is all about the money.
Early Cuyler

Whitesburg, KY

#97 Jan 24, 2013
Ventura 2016

“Boogie Chill'un”

Since: Dec 08

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#98 Jan 24, 2013
Grey Boxer wrote:
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I watched part of one of his shows, something about underground cities, depopulating some places and something about the Ozark and some banks. Didn't really get to watch it but I did find it interesting, I like that stuff.
Yeah that was an interesting show....not really sure what to make of it, and I'm not sure Jesse did either. The first two seasons were more interesting and less far fetched to me. I really got into it. There was JFK, HAARP, 9/11, the FEMA camps, the underground bunkers at Denver's airport, the BP oil spill, Manchurian Candidates ....lot of interesting stuff. What I like about the show is he doesn't necessarily say you should take anything at face value. He raises some questions and kinda leaves it to the viewer.....except for the time travel and lizard people conspiracies. Those were obvious frauds that he debunked as money making rackets.

“Boogie Chill'un”

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#99 Jan 24, 2013
Limbertwig wrote:
Ventura is all about the money.
I disagree .....but to each his own.

“Boogie Chill'un”

Since: Dec 08

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#100 Jan 24, 2013
Early Cuyler wrote:
Ventura 2016
I'm leaning that way too Early ....you can sign a petition to get him on the ballot at jesseventura.net . It is a grassroots movement, ran by citizens. He said if people could ensure that he got on 50 ballots and could poll well enough to debate, he would run, but left it up to the voters. Once he debated in Minnesota, he overtook the duopoly candidates and won governor.

How's Granny, Lil, and Rusty? LOL

“Question, Explore, Discover”

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#101 Jan 25, 2013
JumperJuice wrote:
<quoted text>That's true, but, ultimately, those folks perished, and so did 3000 others who COULD have been saved. Thanks God for those brave souls on flight 93, or there's no telling how many people we would have lost that day.
It's been stated that W got a memo on August 6 of Bin Laden's plans.....Clinton could have stopped him 6 years earlier.
j

Right. And we could have killed Osama many times in the past. We could have killed Hitler many times before WWII. You can look at things in hindsight and see all kinds of ways to make it go differently. But that isn't how reality works.

I don't know about the W thing. 9/11 is chock full of insane Truther claims. All I know for sure is that educated, rational people have picked it apart and found the whole Truther movement to be vacuous. I agree with them.

“Question, Explore, Discover”

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#102 Jan 25, 2013
Old Timer wrote:
<quoted text>You are delusional or uneducated. The people who, "know," have not the unpaid time to police wikipedia. It's a rabble site. Sometimes right, often wrong.
Yes, it is sometimes wrong. Then it get fixed. Do you understand what crowdsourcing is?

It is a popular, casual version of peer review. And that is how all of science, history, philosophy, etc, functions.

I never said it was perfect, in fact I said it can be wrong. But I find that the only people who reject it as a source at all are arguing for a crazy point of view like Creationism, anti-gay, anti-evolution, and conspiracy theories.

See the pattern?

“Boogie Chill'un”

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#103 Jan 25, 2013
Yiago wrote:
<quoted text>j
Right. And we could have killed Osama many times in the past. We could have killed Hitler many times before WWII. You can look at things in hindsight and see all kinds of ways to make it go differently. But that isn't how reality works.
I don't know about the W thing. 9/11 is chock full of insane Truther claims. All I know for sure is that educated, rational people have picked it apart and found the whole Truther movement to be vacuous. I agree with them.
Yes, some of the truther claims are insane, and I've seen them shot down by Ventura. All Jesse does is give the questions a national platform and investigates them. My theory is that Uncle Sam wanted to cover up a link between Saudi Arabia instead of al-Qaida being solely responsible. Obviously, the terrorists were of Saudi descent, but could there have been a deeper connection to Saudi Arabia? Isn't the Saudi royal family an oil ally of the power brokers here in the United States? If there is some dialogue on those black boxes that suggests Saudi involvement (not saying the royal family, but possibly some Saudi nationals or higher ups, or al-Qaida was actually operating under the royal family's nose.), then the American public may have been apt to want to go to war with the Saudis, and the oil barons couldn't have that. The fact is, there are a lot of unanswered questions and holes in the official story, and when you don't answer them or close the holes.....you open yourself up to people questioning and investigating.....whether there's anything to their claims or not. Why the secrecy? What happened to government transparency?

Not all "experts" have shot down all of the theories:

"Probably the most conclusive evidence about a controlled demolition is a research paper (two years, nine authors) published in the peer-reviewed Open Chemical Physics Journal , in April 2009. In studying dust samples from the site, these scientists found chips of nano-thermite, which is a high-tech incendiary/explosive.

Here’s what the paper’s lead author, Dr. Niels Harrit of the University of Copenhagen’s chemistry department, had to say about the explosive that he’s convinced brought down the Twin Towers and the nearby Building 7:

“Thermite itself dates back to 1893. It is a mixture of aluminum and rust-powder, which react to create intense heat. The reaction produces iron, heated to 2500 degrees Centigrade. This can be used to do welding. It can also be used to melt other iron.

So in nano-thermite, this powder from 1893 is reduced to tiny particles, perfectly mixed. When these react, the intense heat develops much more quickly. Nano-thermite can be mixed with additives to give off intense heat, or serve as a very effective explosive. It contains more energy than dynamite, and can be used as rocket fuel.”

....now that's a little hard for me to swallow, but who knows....

What's intriguing is that the article was removed from the Huffington Post not long after it was published. What happened to free speech?
Yeah

Nashville, TN

#104 Jan 25, 2013
I think it is curious how "conspiracy theory" has became a term associated with nutty or crazy. It's as if there have never in history been any conspiracies.
History is a chain of multiple and simultaneous, though disjointed, conspiracies.

I'm not saying that I believe in the modern "conspiracy theories", but I think it's odd and interesting how the term is used to stigmatize anyone that questions anything that is considered outside of the mainstream or differs from certain political ideologies.

Since: Jan 13

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#105 Jan 25, 2013
Yeah wrote:
I think it is curious how "conspiracy theory" has became a term associated with nutty or crazy. It's as if there have never in history been any conspiracies.
History is a chain of multiple and simultaneous, though disjointed, conspiracies.
I'm not saying that I believe in the modern "conspiracy theories", but I think it's odd and interesting how the term is used to stigmatize anyone that questions anything that is considered outside of the mainstream or differs from certain political ideologies.
Because the government wants all conspiracy theorists to look like nuts
wakeup

Somerset, KY

#106 Jan 25, 2013
Right!

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