Police Chaplian told to stop invoking Jesus
Posted in the Burkesville Forum
#1 Jun 20, 2012
For the past seven years Pastor Terry Sartain has ministered to police officers and their families in Charlotte, N.C. Whenever the Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police Dept. invited him to deliver an invocation, he prayed in the name of Jesus.
But not anymore.
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Volunteer chaplains in the Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police Dept. will no longer be allowed to invoke the name of Jesus in prayers at public events held on government property.
Major John Diggs, who oversees the chaplain program, told television station WSOC that the policy is a matter of respecting that people may have different faiths and that it is not aimed at any one religion or denomination.
Sartain, the pastor of Horizon Christian Fellowship, told Fox News Radio he was scheduled to give an invocation at a promotion ceremony. Before the event, he received a telephone call from his superior major.
I was told chaplains can no longer invoke the name of Jesus on government property, Sartain said.(He said) if I could refrain from that during the invocation he would appreciate that.
Sartain said he was surprised by the telephone call. The pastor said hes prayed consistently in the name of Jesus at past police department events without any issues.
Im very sad about it, he said.Im a pastor and Jesus is the only thing I have to offer to bless people his life and his person.
It brings about a very real concern about where we are heading as a nation, he said.I serve a God who loves people unconditionally, who died for their sins on the cross, who wants to reconcile himself to them and love them where they are at and now Im told I cant bless people as a result of that.
The police department said he could still pray just not to Jesus.
So to whom was the Christian minister supposed to pray?
That was my question, Sartain said.If Im going to pray what should I pray?
He said the police department wanted him to deliver a secular prayer.
Even when I wasnt a Christian in my past I didnt even know what a secular prayer was, he said.Why even pray if its to the one whos in the room? That could be anybody.
Sartain said the new policy has put him in a difficult spot.
You dont want to compromise your faith, he said.At the same time you want to honor those who are in charge over you.
So Sartain asked the police department to withdraw his name from consideration for future public prayers.
I didnt really need to do that as a chaplain, he said of the public prayers.I still wanted to have the influence with the police officers and their families.
At least some people in the Charlotte area support the decision to remove the Jesus-centric prayers.
Its past time when they shouldve made a policy, ACLU member Jim Gronquist told WSOC.Its improper to mix up religion with the function of state agents, and as long as theyre state agents, they should not be able to do that.
Sartain said its apparent that Christians for the most part are targeted in these days that we exist in.
As Christians in the United States of America what we are saying as believers is we want the same rights and privileges as everybody else, he said.Let the playing field remain level.
#2 Jun 20, 2012
I have noticed since Obama took office that Christians have been attacked on all sides. If Christian people dont stand up and fight back then their way of life will be gone forever.Every day you hear more & more new's like this i'm a Christian and i'm very tired of atheiest trying to push their stupid beliefs on me.
I love Jesus Christ and i am not ashamed of him some day we will stand accountable for what we are alowing to happen to this Nation.
20 years from now we will be a third world country if we dont get up of our rear ends and speak up.
#3 Jun 20, 2012
This is bullchit story that was going around about 2 years ago.nothing to it all a big lie.
#4 Jun 20, 2012
Notice that on tv they bleep out any offensive words about color or whatever but if they use Gods name in vain it isn't bleeped out?
#5 Jun 21, 2012
OLd Timer,turn your post around and look at it from the side of a person from another religion.Would you feel uncomfortable,left out or what would your reaction be?People of faith should have enough compassion for their fellow man to try and understand that even though others may worship different that does not make them less or wrong, only different.
#6 Jun 21, 2012
Sorry Pirate your excuses dont fly with me,I dont give a rats arse what your religion is there is only one true God the God who created us the Lord Jesus Christ the one who died for us,I'll defend that untill the day he call's me home.We have always worshipped God in this Country we are a Christian Nation and we need to get back to being a Christian Nation if it takes throwing every politician in this Country out of office to get there then i say let's roll.
We need to put God first then everything else will work out.
#7 Jun 21, 2012
Maybe they can get religion out the church next!
#8 Jun 21, 2012
We are not or have never been a Christian nation.Many of the founders of our country were escaping religious prejudices when they came here and our government was formed to make sure it was free of religion.
You are one of a certain number that claims Christianity is the religion of our country when in fact we are a country with many religions.You have the the right to your religion as does every other person,BUT you do not have the right to force your beliefs on another person.Public places are owned by the citizens and should be religion neutral.
#9 Jun 21, 2012
I guess you fools that believe in god also believe in santa clause and the easter bunny.
The father of the 23 year old college student that got injured on a "zip line"and wound up with the "flesh eating virus" was on TV thanking god for sparing her life,even though she lost her arms and legs.How big a fool is that?
#10 Jun 21, 2012
these idiots praise god when something good happens to them but never say a bad word about god when all the shit comes crashing down - how can they be so subservient - they're no smarter than the people that lived 2,200 years ago - still a bunch of fools - working and praying for an imaginary being
#11 Jun 21, 2012
I pray to the same God, But I am offended when my tax dollar pays for promoting a "savior" I don't believe is the real deal. We're still waiting for the Messiah to arrive.
#12 Jun 21, 2012
Yeah, if a family's house burns down and everyone dies a horrible death but one, they're quick to say "it's a miracle" that the one kid survived. Sure. A real blessing! But then it was also God's doing that the rest of the family died screaming as their flesh was burned from their bones and they heard the screams of their children dying in agony? Is that a blessing too then?
#13 Jun 21, 2012
Yes it is a mirical that one survived,The one's who did not make it is either in Heaven or Hell depends on whether they were fool's who said there is no God that is also in the Bible.
One day you people will see if there is a God or not.Please ask yourself this question WHAT IF WE ARE WRONG ? and there really is a God and Hell is as hot as they say Wow''just like the rich man who lifted his eyes in Hell begging for one drop of water because he worshiped his money more then God.I'll pray for you all tonight that you dont did before you come to your senses.
#14 Jun 21, 2012
i am a believer in jesus christ because he said[EVERY KNEE SHALL BOW AND EVERY TONGUE SHALL CONFESS THAT HE IS JESUS CHRIST]some of the strongest athiests known have had too do this.just hang around long enough and your time will come.iknow if you have never had this experience as of yet you wouldnt understand.i as one know because i wouldnt heed to the call of jesus christ and lost my whole family in the process.does this explain why five can die and one be left and he can still thank GOD AND JESUS CHRIST for sparing his life.this one person probably knew he had not heeded the call of JESUS CHRIST you can believe whwt you want but personally i would be careful what i said about christian people and JESUS CHRIST someday this will be brought before you again in some awful way.
#15 Jun 21, 2012
sorry i left out something when i lay down tonight i will ask GOD IN HEAVEN to forgive my sins and the sins of others in the name of JESUS CHRIST pray for me and have a good night ,thanks for reading my comment and may GOD bless you in a good way [with all my love].
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