Families of four soldiers killed remember loved ones

Family and friends are still mourning the loss of four soldiers from eastern North Carolina who died in Iraq earlier this week.

[Marat]

Kramer's family described him as a family man who put his family first and believed in serving his country.

He did neither.
Someone who puts his family first sticks around to take care of them.
He did not serve his country in any way by helping murder Iraqis who had never caused him or the country any threat.
The best that can be said about him is that he was a duped, ignorant piece of human garbage.

[Panther]

And I Call You A ScumBag Piece Of Shit. You Dirty (SOB)!!!!!

[mari]

okay...so sgt baldeosinghs' wife was close to my mom...and my 6 year old brother goes to school with his two young daughters...they always spoke highly of their father...and right now is a very hard time. Just because they leave, doesnt mean they care....
looks like you are the ignorant one...

[rattlecattle]

Our soldiers are NOT fighting for their country, they are fighting for the mistakes of their country.

Too bad these soldiers died...now bury them in Crawford, Texas on the ranch of the person that started all this EVIL.

[DaveC]

rattlecattle wrote:

Our soldiers are NOT fighting for their country, they are fighting for the mistakes of their country.
Too bad these soldiers died...now bury them in Crawford, Texas on the ranch of the person that started all this EVIL.

Every war is a mistake. The only good that ever comes from war is what we can exhume from the ashes. Even WW2 was quickly followed by 40 years of Cold War in which we lost another 100 thousand soldiers. Even the noble cause of GW1 where we liberated an Arab country from another Arab tyrant eventually cost us 3000 dead on 9/11 and brought us into this war. We could go home and return to isolationism like we did after WW1, but I seriously doubt that the world would survive the battle for our replacement (and I’m certain there would be one) and since we are part of that world we would perish as well. The only thing worse than winning a war is losing a war so in that regard these soldiers did not die in vain and it is up to us to grab whatever good we can from their sacrifice.

[rattlecattle]

DaveC wrote:

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Every war is a mistake. The only good that ever comes from war is what we can exhume from the ashes. Even WW2 was quickly followed by 40 years of Cold War in which we lost another 100 thousand soldiers. Even the noble cause of GW1 where we liberated an Arab country from another Arab tyrant eventually cost us 3000 dead on 9/11 and brought us into this war. We could go home and return to isolationism like we did after WW1, but I seriously doubt that the world would survive the battle for our replacement (and I’m certain there would be one) and since we are part of that world we would perish as well. The only thing worse than winning a war is losing a war so in that regard these soldiers did not die in vain and it is up to us to grab whatever good we can from their sacrifice.

I am sick of hearing about our damn soldiers and THEIR sacrifice.

They are a bunch of pawns, that are defending NOTHING, esp freedom.

They need to GO HOME, stay HOME

The USA is a pathetic MESS....we need no wars

[DaveC]

rattlecattle wrote:

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I am sick of hearing about our damn soldiers and THEIR sacrifice.
They are a bunch of pawns, that are defending NOTHING, esp freedom.
They need to GO HOME, stay HOME
The USA is a pathetic MESS....we need no wars

If you’re sick of hearing about something, then why go to a forum that discusses it?

[mamamia]

Everyone who has a problem with America, and this war we are fighting needs to read the BIBLE!! It says all of these things shall come to pass. And it also says for those of you who think war is bad, or a mistake.... Exodus "The Lord is a man of war, the Lord is his name"

[Marat]

mamamia wrote:

Everyone who has a problem with America, and this war we are fighting needs to read the BIBLE!! It says all of these things shall come to pass. And it also says for those of you who think war is bad, or a mistake.... Exodus "The Lord is a man of war, the Lord is his name"

Wow! That explains everything.
Some deranged Jewish guy wrote something in a book thousands of years ago and we should take it as a fact? Of course we should.
We should model our lives like Jonah and live inside a whale or maybe like Cain and Abel.
Unless we take all that garbage as the honest truth and stop thinking for ourselves, where will we end up?

[pinkmama]

you will end up in hell thats where- that "Jewish guy" is Jesus Christ, and he died on Calvary for my sins, and yours. Whether you like it now or not-one day you too shall believe in God-when your standing before him for judgement-while your eternally burning in hell you will remember that someone told you who Jesus was and that he died for you and that you obviously turned the other way. God works in many ways-my family would know better than just about anyone in America after suffering over the last year-and God is in every single bit of your life. Keep thinking you just "popped" up out of no where and when you die your just gonna lay in the ground. You are going to be so dissapointed for all of eternity

[rattlecattle]

WAR, DEATH, DEBT, DESTRUCTION....that is what we will win in our wars.

The USA is a terrorist nation of the first order

[pinkmama]

whatever everyone who wants to bash the war and our soldiers. This blog is about men who gave their lives for your country-if you dont like it-go make a sign and stand on the street-dont discuss it where there families can see the trash in your un educated minds

[rattlecattle]

There is nothing heroic about DYING for the mistakes of the Bush regime.

Bury the dead in Crawford Texas

[Superman]

Marat wrote:

Kramer's family described him as a family man who put his family first and believed in serving his country.
He did neither.
Someone who puts his family first sticks around to take care of them.
He did not serve his country in any way by helping murder Iraqis who had never caused him or the country any threat.
The best that can be said about him is that he was a duped, ignorant piece of human garbage.

Your bitterness at these brave men must be attributed to your inability to find meaning in your worthless life. Pitiful as you are, your failure to amount to anything in life is no excuse for your words or actions here. Even though your poor mother sees you as a disappointment and your father has written you off, that is no excuse to behave in such a callus manor towards these brave, good, honorable men and families who continue to make the world a better place.

Since you cannot measure up to their honor, don’t try to compensate for your inabilities with hate. Just accept the fact that they did more good in their short lives than you ever will in yours if you live to be a 100 (God Help Us). As for these families, I wish them all peace and thank you for your sacrifices. Words cannot express the debt this world owes you. Thanks to all the US military families.

[WNCNATIVE]

rattlecattle wrote:

There is nothing heroic about DYING for the mistakes of the Bush regime.
Bury the dead in Crawford Texas

Just because you lack the balls to die for something you believe in doesnt mean it isnt heroic. Many people disagree with the war. That is a complete seperate issue to the men and women who have died. Stop being so disrepectful to these people and their families.

[Marat]

WNCNATIVE wrote:

<quoted text> Just because you lack the balls to die for something you believe in doesnt mean it isnt heroic. Many people disagree with the war. That is a complete seperate issue to the men and women who have died. Stop being so disrepectful to these people and their families.

I'd like to help you out.
The last thing these evil dead grunts deserve is anyone's respect. Many died because they were duped into believing Iraq caused the US some threat. Most died because there were trailer-trash garbage trying to make some big bucks.
Their warmongering families who failed to teach them right from wrong deserve to be publicly spat upon for their parental failure and perversity.
If these jerks really believed that killing Iraqis served some honorable purpose, the world is better off without having them stink it out.

[rattlecattle]

WNCNATIVE wrote:

<quoted text> Just because you lack the balls to die for something you believe in doesnt mean it isnt heroic. Many people disagree with the war. That is a complete seperate issue to the men and women who have died. Stop being so disrepectful to these people and their families.

We wanted REVENGE and WAR we got it......

No support or sympathy.....

Death is what George W Bush is serving....eat it...DIE!!!!!!!!!!

[WNCNATIVE]

Marat wrote:

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I'd like to help you out.
The last thing these evil dead grunts deserve is anyone's respect. Many died because they were duped into believing Iraq caused the US some threat. Most died because there were trailer-trash garbage trying to make some big bucks.
Their warmongering families who failed to teach them right from wrong deserve to be publicly spat upon for their parental failure and perversity.
If these jerks really believed that killing Iraqis served some honorable purpose, the world is better off without having them stink it out.

You're an evil person. These "evil dead grunts" joined the military believing they were serving a higher purpose. They wanted to serve their country because its the RIGHT thing to do. No one wants to kill someone else. They do what they have to do because it is their job. And by the way, if you think people in he military make "big bucks" you're a far bigger idiot than I ever imagined. Now- go back to flipping your burgers and leave decent people alone.

[BUTTERFLYS ARE FREE]

How disheartening to hear the ignorance and disrespect written above to our military personnel who are laying it all down so we can live it all up.
You don't have to agree or disagree with this war to show a small amount of respect and pride for the young men and women who volunteered to protect our country, now do ya?
Come on! Your obvious disdain and hatred should not be poured onto these people....
SHOW SOME RESPECT!!!!(you are human, aren't you?)

[rattlecattle]

BUTTERFLYS ARE FREE wrote:

How disheartening to hear the ignorance and disrespect written above to our military personnel who are laying it all down so we can live it all up.
You don't have to agree or disagree with this war to show a small amount of respect and pride for the young men and women who volunteered to protect our country, now do ya?
Come on! Your obvious disdain and hatred should not be poured onto these people....
SHOW SOME RESPECT!!!!(you are human, aren't you?)

I respect the lives of the VICTIMS of our monster soldiers...how many have they killed in;

Pakistan....Afghanistan....Ira q....Iran....Lybia....Lebadon. ..Panama...Cambodia....Cuba... .Vietnam....Germany...Japan... .Italy....Laos

Millions dead....that is right...our angelic sweeheart heroes have killed millions...but we are the good guys?

Our evil far exceeds that of any nation in the world, we are a nation of death, debt and destruction.

Our troops deserve NOTHING....no sympathy...no support...maybe a ticket home and a mirror to look into.