Brooks looks to lease Gowanda, Forest...

Brooks looks to lease Gowanda, Forestville clinics

There are 21 comments on the Observer story from Feb 8, 2014, titled Brooks looks to lease Gowanda, Forestville clinics. In it, Observer reports that:

In order to make sure there is no lapse in services provided at the Gowanda Urgent Care and Forestville Primary Care clinics, Brooks has asked for approval to lease the clinics from TLC.

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no trust

Buffalo, NY

#1 Feb 9, 2014
really, Brooks is the last person we should allow to handle those clinics. Lets put them out to bid, they are money makers that's what brooks wants their hands on them

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#2 Feb 10, 2014
no trust wrote:
really, Brooks is the last person we should allow to handle those clinics. Lets put them out to bid, they are money makers that's what brooks wants their hands on them
That is for sure.
Brooks would not give the type of care Tri-counity gave to the Gowanda area.
people that don't live in that area do not realize that Tri-county and lake shore Hosp. are the only hosp. with - in like 20 miles or more.
these are two hospitals that should be kept open for the good of the people in south Erie Co.
I am sure there is not one person in the City of Buffalo that could fathom having to drive over 20 miles to get to the nearest Hospital.
it is time for the Gov.[ IF needed] to step in and keep these Hospitals [ Clinics] open
have a good evening

Since: Feb 10

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#4 Feb 10, 2014
Looking Carefully wrote:
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It is unreasonable for people who move "out in the middle of nowhere" to "get away from it all" and then pitch a fit when they have to travel to obtain goods and services
Lets see Gowanda is a good size village and has had a Hosp. that has taken care of an area of over a 30 mile radius for years.
It closed because of a flood and the next closest hosp. is Lakeshore and that is about to close.
So you say the People in that area should have to travel 30 to 40 miles to get to a hosp. because they are closing the two Hosp. they have in the area?
I don't think YOU would want to travel OVER 30 miles in a life or death emergency so why should these people?
have a nice night

Since: May 12

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#5 Feb 10, 2014
tbird19482 wrote:
<quoted text> Lets see Gowanda is a good size village and has had a Hosp. that has taken care of an area of over a 30 mile radius for years.
It closed because of a flood and the next closest hosp. is Lakeshore and that is about to close.
So you say the People in that area should have to travel 30 to 40 miles to get to a hosp. because they are closing the two Hosp. they have in the area?
I don't think YOU would want to travel OVER 30 miles in a life or death emergency so why should these people?
have a nice night
I think what Looking Carefully meant was people who choose to live out in rural areas away from everything should not expect to have services at their doorstep and should realize they may have to travel some to get what they need including medical services.

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#6 Feb 10, 2014
BFLO NEOCON wrote:
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I think what Looking Carefully meant was people who choose to live out in rural areas away from everything should not expect to have services at their doorstep and should realize they may have to travel some to get what they need including medical services.
Yes I agree/
But Tri - county Hosp. went down over 5 years ago and Lakeshore was the nearest Hosp. in the area and that is about to close.
There isn't a hosp. in the area [ like there was] you now have to go over 30 miles to get to a hosp.
and that is like from Gowanda. if you get down into Catt. Co. you might have to go 40 or 50 miles to get to a Hosp.
It is just like the people in the city want a " metro" form of Gov. where the inner city gets all the new cop cars and fire trucks then the first ring gets the year old stuff, and the second ring gets the two year old stuff and by the time the 4th or 5th ring towns get a " new" cop car it is already 5 years old and can't get out of its own way, and as for fire trucks somebody in the city [ metro headquarters ] gets a request from one of the small towns for a new firetruck so they send them a hook and ladder truck when they need a new 6000 gal. tanker.
If you look into Jacksonville Fla, you will see this is what happened when they first went " Metro' then they found out it didn't work that way and the people out in the sticks need the services the city people need and that in some cases are paying more in taxes and are getting less.
All I am saying is the people out there should not have to go 40 or 50 miles to get to a hosp.
Have a nice night

Since: May 12

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#7 Feb 10, 2014
tbird19482 wrote:
<quoted text> Yes I agree/
But Tri - county Hosp. went down over 5 years ago and Lakeshore was the nearest Hosp. in the area and that is about to close.
There isn't a hosp. in the area [ like there was] you now have to go over 30 miles to get to a hosp.
and that is like from Gowanda. if you get down into Catt. Co. you might have to go 40 or 50 miles to get to a Hosp.
It is just like the people in the city want a " metro" form of Gov. where the inner city gets all the new cop cars and fire trucks then the first ring gets the year old stuff, and the second ring gets the two year old stuff and by the time the 4th or 5th ring towns get a " new" cop car it is already 5 years old and can't get out of its own way, and as for fire trucks somebody in the city [ metro headquarters ] gets a request from one of the small towns for a new firetruck so they send them a hook and ladder truck when they need a new 6000 gal. tanker.
If you look into Jacksonville Fla, you will see this is what happened when they first went " Metro' then they found out it didn't work that way and the people out in the sticks need the services the city people need and that in some cases are paying more in taxes and are getting less.
All I am saying is the people out there should not have to go 40 or 50 miles to get to a hosp.
Have a nice night
I am not in favor of Metro policing. In my opinion you can't take a city ghetto copper and put him out in a rural setting and have good results. Nor can you take a 4th ring suburban cop and drop in the ghetto to work. These are two completely different types of environments which require different mindsets when it comes to policing. I'm not saying these officers can't adapt and overcome their initial shortcomings but it would take too long to acclimate them in my opinion.

As for medical attention I believe every person should be within close approximation to good health services but with the high costs involved it doesn't appear to be cost effective to operate a fully equipped and staffed hospital in every community.

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#9 Feb 11, 2014
Looking Carefully wrote:
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Do you expect the taxpayers to build maintain and staff rural hospitals?
First of all both these Hospittals have been there for years.
it was a flood that took out Tri-county and the money that was to go to Lakeshore went to Brooks.
If you had looked into the subject before making that post you would have known that.
Now that they may be closing the people that were taken care of at these Hosp. will have to drive a min. of 25 miles or so to get to a Hosp.

I would like to see them close the Hops. where you live and have you drive over 20 miles .
You would be up in arms about it too.

The people out there pay taxes just like you do and should not have to drive over 20 miles to get to a Hosp.
Have a nice day

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#10 Feb 11, 2014
Looking Carefully wrote:
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Do you expect the taxpayers to build maintain and staff rural hospitals?
P.S.
When I say these Hosp. have been there for years I mean years.
Lakeshore Hosp. has been there since { I believe] 1964 , that is 50 years and Tri-county was there long before that.
It isn't like these people are asking for a new Hosp. just keep the ones they have open thats all
have a nice day
G Spot

Gowanda, NY

#16 Feb 11, 2014
tbird19482 wrote:
<quoted text> Yes I agree/
But Tri - county Hosp. went down over 5 years ago and Lakeshore was the nearest Hosp. in the area and that is about to close.
There isn't a hosp. in the area [ like there was] you now have to go over 30 miles to get to a hosp.
and that is like from Gowanda. if you get down into Catt. Co. you might have to go 40 or 50 miles to get to a Hosp.
It is just like the people in the city want a " metro" form of Gov. where the inner city gets all the new cop cars and fire trucks then the first ring gets the year old stuff, and the second ring gets the two year old stuff and by the time the 4th or 5th ring towns get a " new" cop car it is already 5 years old and can't get out of its own way, and as for fire trucks somebody in the city [ metro headquarters ] gets a request from one of the small towns for a new firetruck so they send them a hook and ladder truck when they need a new 6000 gal. tanker.
If you look into Jacksonville Fla, you will see this is what happened when they first went " Metro' then they found out it didn't work that way and the people out in the sticks need the services the city people need and that in some cases are paying more in taxes and are getting less.
All I am saying is the people out there should not have to go 40 or 50 miles to get to a hosp.
Have a nice night
They can go to Springville Hosp., thats plenty good enough for them!

Since: May 12

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#17 Feb 11, 2014
Life Coach wrote:
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The politically Tagore's cops like you were would be hurt by a merger of police departments because your politics would be diluted and some political blood would be slipped in the ensuing power struggled. The street cops would benefit because the young go getters could work the city and the old timers could work the slower areas.
Before my time in the police repayment with which I am most familiar an urban city merged with a suburban and rural area. The old timers who went through it said the ensuing power struggle was brutal
Nobody is talking to you or cares what you think. You, and your ilk, are has-beens on here now. MYOB!

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#18 Feb 11, 2014
Firefly Universe wrote:
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If there was a NEED for a hospital down there the private sector would provide one. Even if they did build one it would be nothing more than a clinic. Any serious injuries and illnesses get transported to ECMC or BGH anyway.
If I move to wilds of Alaska or in the middle of the desert do I have a "right" to have someone move hospitals and other services out to me?
You have an entitlement mentality
These ARE Private Hospitals,
All these people are asking for is to have them kept open.
I am sure you wouldn't like it if they closed a hosp. that was near you and made you drive over 20 miles to the nearest hosp.
Have a nice night
BigBopper

Gowanda, NY

#19 Feb 16, 2014
they should have taken the money from that guy who wanted to buy it but Nooo, they were too greedy, wanted more money. they also should of gone after that guy who stole all that funding money from them
ASSes!
Supports BMH & LSH

Orlando, FL

#22 Feb 16, 2014
no trust wrote:
really, Brooks is the last person we should allow to handle those clinics. Lets put them out to bid, they are money makers that's what brooks wants their hands on them
I believe Brooks would like to take them
over so Lakeshore doesn't lose them too. The area should have some kind of medical facility.
Supports BMH & LSH

Orlando, FL

#23 Feb 16, 2014
tbird19482 wrote:
<quoted text>First of all both these Hospittals have been there for years.
it was a flood that took out Tri-county and the money that was to go to Lakeshore went to Brooks.
If you had looked into the subject before making that post you would have known that.
Now that they may be closing the people that were taken care of at these Hosp. will have to drive a min. of 25 miles or so to get to a Hosp.

I would like to see them close the Hops. where you live and have you drive over 20 miles .
You would be up in arms about it too.

The people out there pay taxes just like you do and should not have to drive over 20 miles to get to a Hosp.
Have a nice day
I don't believe the $$ went to Brooks because they are going through the same bs Lakeshore is. UPMC is taking over everything. Getting rid of experienced nurses & bringing on their own flunkies. Both places are guilty of mismanagement of funds. Brooks started failing when a medical Dr. Decided he wanted to make his group the sole owner of all private medical Drs. offices & have complete control of the hospital.
Just asking

Lockport, NY

#24 Feb 16, 2014
[QUOTE who="Supports BMH & LSH "]<quoted text>
I don't believe the $$ went to Brooks because they are going through the same bs Lakeshore is. UPMC is taking over everything. Getting rid of experienced nurses & bringing on their own flunkies. Both places are guilty of mismanagement of funds. Brooks started failing when a medical Dr. Decided he wanted to make his group the sole owner of all private medical Drs. offices & have complete control of the hospital.[/QUOTE] What happened to all the money from the flood?
Weren't they suppose to use that money to get Gowanda Hosp. back up and running?
It has been there for over 50 some years and was doing fine till the flood washed them out.
I guess somebody must have done something with it,
Tiptoethru theFlowers

United States

#25 Feb 21, 2014
tbird19482 wrote:
<quoted text>These ARE Private Hospitals,
All these people are asking for is to have them kept open.
I am sure you wouldn't like it if they closed a hosp. that was near you and made you drive over 20 miles to the nearest hosp.
Have a nice night
People can ask for anything they want. If there was a profit to be made or just break even as an NPO, then they would do it. There are not enough people in the service area to sustain a viable business. They would prefer to travel to Mercy in South Buffalo or Brooks in Dunkirk to get a real doctor instead of a Shaman from the rez.

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#26 Feb 21, 2014
Tiptoethru theFlowers wrote:
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People can ask for anything they want. If there was a profit to be made or just break even as an NPO, then they would do it. There are not enough people in the service area to sustain a viable business. They would prefer to travel to Mercy in South Buffalo or Brooks in Dunkirk to get a real doctor instead of a Shaman from the rez.
First of all people in that area would " PREFER" to have a Hosp. In their area like they have for about 60 years NOT have to go OVER 30 miles to get health care.
Tri - County Hosp. made money and saved many lives and if it wasn't for that flood it would still be up and running.
I can't tell you why it wasn't rebuilt but somebody took a lot of money and did something with it.
You are the type of person that would go down into Zoar Vally try climbing the cliffs fall have to have the Vollys risk their lives to go down in there to take you out and seeing that there isn't a Hosp. in a 30 mile range have to drive you into Mercy, and something happen and you have to have a leg cut off [ that could have been saved IF tri-county hosp was open] then you would want to put a law suit against somebody because they didn't get you to a Hosp. in time to save your leg.
I am 100% sure seeing you live with-in 5 miles of several Hosp. you would be one of the first people to cry IF they closed all the Hosp. in your area and YOU had to go over 30 miles to get health care.
Have a nice night
The Mongeaux Lloyd

United States

#28 Feb 22, 2014
You need to be near a hospital equipped with a whale sling to get your wife in and out of bed
tb1rdi9482

United States

#31 Feb 22, 2014
I would not complain if they turned those hospitals into cat hospitals because i have 70 cats
real voice of genius

San Jose, CA

#33 Mar 10, 2014
Now that tbird has been crushed, he won't even try to comment on this thread or any other thread.

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