Are Autistic kids "retarded"

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<quoted text>Autism is a very complex disorder that not even scientists fully understand! They are trying to link autism to the age of a man and the weight of a woman at the time of conception. I fully understand that autism is a real disorder that needs to be noticed, but I have said before I think that a lot of the diagnoses are more superficial than anything with some of the signs. But I have my own theory to the situation that seems more logical than men over 50 are at more risk for having a child with autism. Now statistics show that most babies being bornn today are being born to parents between the ages of 18 and 30! Most women between those ages take birth control, now most women who get pregnant don't realize they are until they are about 2 months in. If they were taking birth control got pregnant when they missed a dose or when they were taking a Medication that counter acted the effects and didn't realize it, well most likely they were still following through with the contraceptive until they found out they were pregnant. Now ij think that the hormonal alteration effects the developing organs in the first trimester. During the first few months of prgnancy is when the childs vital organs develope, doesn't it make sense in some way birth control has an impact on the developing brain causing these disorders and abnormalities? That seems more logical to me than the bologna these scientists are coming up with!
Well after reading a lot about the subject and having a son with autism I can say that when they brought out the DSM 4 they did open Autism disorders up and let in a lot of kids that had ADD and things along this line that do not belong under autism.
When they told us our son had autism it was under the DSM 3 NOT the 4 and they are going back to many on the things the DSM 3 had in the DSM5 and getting rid of some of the kids that have ADD and not autism.
Now as for age and being on the pill.
I don't know about that.
I know I was 29, 5'8" tall and about 125lbs.
My wife was 26 5'7" and 125lbs and we planned to have another child and she was off the pill for over a year.
My son as I have said before was as normal as any child I have ever known, UNTIL he had his "well baby shot" [ he was about 20 mo. old]
He was outside playing with the other kids, laughing and yelling , talking, playing just like all the rest of the kids, then we took him to the DRs at about 230 in the afternoon got his shot and by 6 that night he had a 104 temp and none of the other kids were sick or got sick , ONLY him, and with-in a couple of days you could watch him regress back into himself and he stopped talking and started to sit there and rock , he would not answer when he was called [ we thought he was going deaf but that wasn't it] then we took him to many DRs and Childrens HOSP. where they had a group of DRs look at him and it was an intern that spoke up and said he had just been reading about Autism and he thought this looked like autism that is when the other DRs looked into it.
Back 30 plus years ago Autism wasn't an everyday thing, it was 1 in 22,000 kids had it, now it is 1 in 50.
And IF you look into it a lot of the symptoms of Autism are the same as Mercury poisoning.

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Could be that too, I never thought about that, did your son by any chance have a thrmometer that he had access too? Those old ones have the mercury in it! Its also found in fish, but that wouldn't do that to him that quickly!

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Could be that too, I never thought about that, did your son by any chance have a thrmometer that he had access too? Those old ones have the mercury in it! Its also found in fish, but that wouldn't do that to him that quickly!
As I have said many of times on here he was outside playing with other kids[ none of whom got sick] talked, laughed sang songs and ran around just like all normal kids do.
Then he got sick after the Drs office and his " well baby shot"
I know a lot of people believe what the big Pharm. cos tell them and don't think the shots have anything to do with it.
Well all I know is my son was out playing and was as normal as any other child out in that yard until he got that shot and became sick, and has never been the same since
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<quoted text>you are a wortheless, pathetic excuse for a human being. I hope tragedy strikes you, and you have to live with your burden for the rest of your life!
You don't know him

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<quoted text>Autism is a very complex disorder that not even scientists fully understand! They are trying to link autism to the age of a man and the weight of a woman at the time of conception. I fully understand that autism is a real disorder that needs to be noticed, but I have said before I think that a lot of the diagnoses are more superficial than anything with some of the signs. But I have my own theory to the situation that seems more logical than men over 50 are at more risk for having a child with autism. Now statistics show that most babies being bornn today are being born to parents between the ages of 18 and 30! Most women between those ages take birth control, now most women who get pregnant don't realize they are until they are about 2 months in. If they were taking birth control got pregnant when they missed a dose or when they were taking a Medication that counter acted the effects and didn't realize it, well most likely they were still following through with the contraceptive until they found out they were pregnant. Now ij think that the hormonal alteration effects the developing organs in the first trimester. During the first few months of prgnancy is when the childs vital organs develope, doesn't it make sense in some way birth control has an impact on the developing brain causing these disorders and abnormalities? That seems more logical to me than the bologna these scientists are coming up with!
82% of autistic children are born to thin, unwed, marijuana and cigarette smoking parents. Mongoloids are a different story. Most mongoloids are born to older women
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<quoted text>Well after reading a lot about the subject and having a son with autism I can say that when they brought out the DSM 4 they did open Autism disorders up and let in a lot of kids that had ADD and things along this line that do not belong under autism.
When they told us our son had autism it was under the DSM 3 NOT the 4 and they are going back to many on the things the DSM 3 had in the DSM5 and getting rid of some of the kids that have ADD and not autism.
Now as for age and being on the pill.
I don't know about that.
I know I was 29, 5'8" tall and about 125lbs.
My wife was 26 5'7" and 125lbs and we planned to have another child and she was off the pill for over a year.
My son as I have said before was as normal as any child I have ever known, UNTIL he had his "well baby shot" [ he was about 20 mo. old]
He was outside playing with the other kids, laughing and yelling , talking, playing just like all the rest of the kids, then we took him to the DRs at about 230 in the afternoon got his shot and by 6 that night he had a 104 temp and none of the other kids were sick or got sick , ONLY him, and with-in a couple of days you could watch him regress back into himself and he stopped talking and started to sit there and rock , he would not answer when he was called [ we thought he was going deaf but that wasn't it] then we took him to many DRs and Childrens HOSP. where they had a group of DRs look at him and it was an intern that spoke up and said he had just been reading about Autism and he thought this looked like autism that is when the other DRs looked into it.
Back 30 plus years ago Autism wasn't an everyday thing, it was 1 in 22,000 kids had it, now it is 1 in 50.
And IF you look into it a lot of the symptoms of Autism are the same as Mercury poisoning.
Have a nice day
You weighed 125?

No wonder you were afraid to go outside during the Blizzard of 1977. You would have blown away

Maybe that government cheese you ate back in 1977 altered your DNA
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<quoted text>As I have said many of times on here he was outside playing with other kids[ none of whom got sick] talked, laughed sang songs and ran around just like all normal kids do.
Then he got sick after the Drs office and his " well baby shot"
I know a lot of people believe what the big Pharm. cos tell them and don't think the shots have anything to do with it.
Well all I know is my son was out playing and was as normal as any other child out in that yard until he got that shot and became sick, and has never been the same since
Have a nice night
All kidding aside, I agree with you that autism is most likely caused by environmental factors and you can bet your ass that the big pharmaceutical companies have the money and influence to throw the research

Or....it's the government cheese...
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Lifeeeeee Coachhhhhhhhhhh wrote:
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82% of autistic children are born to thin, unwed, marijuana and cigarette smoking parents. Mongoloids are a different story. Most mongoloids are born to older women
Oh no, absolutely not. Over weight women are at higher risk of having a child with mental disorders! I have said plenty of times before, I quit smoking when I was pregnant, say what you want I don't care. I quit as soon as I found out I was pregnant with both of my kids! And I'm proud of that. I just wish I didn't start back up, quiting is easy its staying quit that's the hard part when everyone you know smokes like chimneys! And marriage doesn't have anything to do with the health of a child, so get off that horse! Iff you don't have any input to add to thhe discussion then go post comments on the other threads that people have started just for you and your stupidity. Your ignorance is offensive and its getting old. All you do is same the same crap over and over again. Come up with some new material old man, you are boring me!
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<quoted text>Oh no, absolutely not. Over weight women are at higher risk of having a child with mental disorders! I have said plenty of times before, I quit smoking when I was pregnant, say what you want I don't care. I quit as soon as I found out I was pregnant with both of my kids! And I'm proud of that. I just wish I didn't start back up, quiting is easy its staying quit that's the hard part when everyone you know smokes like chimneys! And marriage doesn't have anything to do with the health of a child, so get off that horse! Iff you don't have any input to add to thhe discussion then go post comments on the other threads that people have started just for you and your stupidity. Your ignorance is offensive and its getting old. All you do is same the same crap over and over again. Come up with some new material old man, you are boring me!
82% of women who claim they quit smoking when they were pregnant are lying.

These days, smoking is a habit of the socioeconomic underclass. if most of the people with whom you associate are smokers, that means you associate with drug-addicted trailer trash

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Lifeeeeee Coachhhhhhhhhhh wrote:
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All kidding aside, I agree with you that autism is most likely caused by environmental factors and you can bet your ass that the big pharmaceutical companies have the money and influence to throw the research
Or....it's the government cheese...
As long as Big Pharm. has any say in how drugs are tested and the gov. keeps trusting them you will never see real research being done.
They make too much money and the CDC lets them do the testing of their own drugs and report back to the CDC.
So as long as we have drug Cos doing the testing on their own drugs we will never find out the truth
As I said the rate of kids with Autism will have to be 1 in 2 before the Gov / CDC starts indep. testing and stop listenung to the drug co.s
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Lifeeeeee Coachhhhhhhhhhh wrote:
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You don't know him
You can't judge him
Anybody who has the audacity to attack a child and judge them for a condition they were born with that didn't have a choice in the matter can be able to take some judgement back! And to sit there and attack the parent of that child who is still baffled about what happened all those years ago is a low blow! It pisses me off when people attack kids with disabilities and call them out on it, call them retards and just completely abuse them, its sickening. Along with parents, saying its their fault! Well I'm pretty sure when someone decides to bring a child into the world they're not handed a paper that says "initials here if you want your baby to have a mental disorder"! I thank the good lord above everyday that my kids are healthy and beautiful and I pray they stay that way! But you know that's just me, I guess I'm one of the few people in this world who have a heart!
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Lifeeeeee Coachhhhhhhhhhh wrote:
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82% of women who claim they quit smoking when they were pregnant are lying.
These days, smoking is a habit of the socioeconomic underclass. if most of the people with whom you associate are smokers, that means you associate with drug-addicted trailer trash
Well I guess I'm apart of that other 18%! And everybody has their poison! I don't know where you are getting your bogus statistics but just because I smoke and the people I know smoke doesn't mean we are all socioeconomic underclass people! We all work, take care of our families and do the best we can as people. You said a while ago you like the vodka. How does that make you different from me? You drink your drug of choice and you're destroying your liver, I smoke my sin and I'm destroying my lungs. There's no difference. Oh, wait maybe there is one...How many kids have you hit in your chrysler town and country mini van?
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<quoted text>As long as Big Pharm. has any say in how drugs are tested and the gov. keeps trusting them you will never see real research being done.
They make too much money and the CDC lets them do the testing of their own drugs and report back to the CDC.
So as long as we have drug Cos doing the testing on their own drugs we will never find out the truth
As I said the rate of kids with Autism will have to be 1 in 2 before the Gov / CDC starts indep. testing and stop listenung to the drug co.s
Have a nice night
Today the FDA makes stricter regulations and inspections that these drugs have to pass through before they are released to the public. Though there are holes that some drugs slip through. But I believe after the spinal meningitis outbreak from the mold in the steroid injections the testing and inspecting of these drugs have upped their game. But you said your son was born in the 70s right? If so, during that time I believe the FDA was expermenting drugs and releasing them to the public without the proper follow through with the inspecting, so your son may have been givin a bad batch of whatever shot he got. If that's the case and if you did a lot of research to assure that whatever they gave to him, impaired his abilities for the rest of his life, you could have gottn a killer settlement out of it. Even though I know there is no amount of money in the world that could replace the health and well being of your child.
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but I did take the liberty of researching mercury toxicity and you are right. The signs and symptons of mercury poisoning are scaringly similar to the signs and symptoms of autism! There are testings you can do to see if there is mercury in his system if you haven't done that already. I don't know if its too late now, I don't know that much about mercury, but I think it sits your system until you get it removed!
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Lifeeeeee Coachhhhhhhhhhh wrote:
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82% of autistic children are born to thin, unwed, marijuana and cigarette smoking parents. Mongoloids are a different story. Most mongoloids are born to older women
And you know what mister stat master, not that I am justifying what people do because I cringe at the sight of a pregnant woman smoking a cigarette, but I know plenty of girls who smoked cigarettes and pot throughout their entire pregnany and they gave birth to perfectly full size full term healthy normal babies. And freak $hit happens to unsuspecting people every day. I think I have seen more married couples bring "unhealthy" babies into the world more than coupls who are not married! Its just the unfortunate luck of the draw for some people. And in a lot of situations tragedy follows the line of a family. Again I thank God every night for my kids and the man I had my kids with! Luckily for us on both sides of our families have no history of any illnesses, we are all healthy! So far everybody has born with perfect teeth and everything! And I really feel for the people who are not as fortunate. I am gratefull for all I have.

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<quoted text>Today the FDA makes stricter regulations and inspections that these drugs have to pass through before they are released to the public. Though there are holes that some drugs slip through. But I believe after the spinal meningitis outbreak from the mold in the steroid injections the testing and inspecting of these drugs have upped their game. But you said your son was born in the 70s right? If so, during that time I believe the FDA was expermenting drugs and releasing them to the public without the proper follow through with the inspecting, so your son may have been givin a bad batch of whatever shot he got. If that's the case and if you did a lot of research to assure that whatever they gave to him, impaired his abilities for the rest of his life, you could have gottn a killer settlement out of it. Even though I know there is no amount of money in the world that could replace the health and well being of your child.
if you look into it you will find out that it is the drug co. that does the testing and if you have a person working in YOUR lab on a test for a new drug they will rig the tests so they say what you want them to.
That is the point.
There is NO ind. testing the CDC trusts the drug co.s.
Then if you look some of the people that have the high jobs at these pharma. co.s they are some of the top people that worked at the CDC/ So they can pull strings to get a new drug passed and do
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<quoted text>Anybody who has the audacity to attack a child and judge them for a condition they were born with that didn't have a choice in the matter can be able to take some judgement back! And to sit there and attack the parent of that child who is still baffled about what happened all those years ago is a low blow! It pisses me off when people attack kids with disabilities and call them out on it, call them retards and just completely abuse them, its sickening. Along with parents, saying its their fault! Well I'm pretty sure when someone decides to bring a child into the world they're not handed a paper that says "initials here if you want your baby to have a mental disorder"! I thank the good lord above everyday that my kids are healthy and beautiful and I pray they stay that way! But you know that's just me, I guess I'm one of the few people in this world who have a heart!
Nobody here is blaming the retarded kids for their own condition. Blaming the reckless activities of their DNA donors is not blaming the kids
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<quoted text>Well I guess I'm apart of that other 18%! And everybody has their poison! I don't know where you are getting your bogus statistics but just because I smoke and the people I know smoke doesn't mean we are all socioeconomic underclass people! We all work, take care of our families and do the best we can as people. You said a while ago you like the vodka. How does that make you different from me? You drink your drug of choice and you're destroying your liver, I smoke my sin and I'm destroying my lungs. There's no difference. Oh, wait maybe there is one...How many kids have you hit in your chrysler town and country mini van?
I don't drive drunk, and vodka is actually good for my health. It prevents kidney stones
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<quoted text>And you know what mister stat master, not that I am justifying what people do because I cringe at the sight of a pregnant woman smoking a cigarette, but I know plenty of girls who smoked cigarettes and pot throughout their entire pregnany and they gave birth to perfectly full size full term healthy normal babies. And freak $hit happens to unsuspecting people every day. I think I have seen more married couples bring "unhealthy" babies into the world more than coupls who are not married! Its just the unfortunate luck of the draw for some people. And in a lot of situations tragedy follows the line of a family. Again I thank God every night for my kids and the man I had my kids with! Luckily for us on both sides of our families have no history of any illnesses, we are all healthy! So far everybody has born with perfect teeth and everything! And I really feel for the people who are not as fortunate. I am gratefull for all I have.
I'll bet the overwhelming majority of those girls you know who smoked cigarettes and marijuana while pregnant were not married
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Lifeeeeee Coachhhhhhhhhhh wrote:
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Nobody here is blaming the retarded kids for their own condition. Blaming the reckless activities of their DNA donors is not blaming the kids
Yeah, because in every situation the parent is at fault right? Please, you have no idea what you are talking about, so like I said go join the threads that someone started in your honor, to spread your words of wisdom. Like the thread"Does Leif Coach have genital warts?". that's right up your alley

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