On the Money: Buffalo Mayor's Race

On the Money: Buffalo Mayor's Race

There are 29 comments on the Art Voice story from Jul 17, 2013, titled On the Money: Buffalo Mayor's Race. In it, Art Voice reports that:

It's been a foregone conclusion that Mayor Byron Brown would continue to raise oodles of money in pursuit of a third term as mayor.

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taxpayer

Buffalo, NY

#1 Jul 18, 2013
money is not the issue for the few people in buffalo who work and pay taxes.but it does get the vote of the uneducated welfare people who just want more stuff for free and as you can see by all the murders and crime these people don't even care if their kids go to school or run around like animals in gangs.please stop showing all these pathetic nasty people on the news if ruins my supper

Since: May 12

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#2 Jul 18, 2013
That sounds like typical liberal behavior.

If liberalism worked there would be no ghettos!
Lump Crown

Chesapeake, VA

#3 Jul 22, 2013
BFLO NEOCON wrote:
That sounds like typical liberal behavior.
If liberalism worked there would be no ghettos!
Thank liberalism for the policy that lets you use your OT to calculate your pension, or you would soon be having to live on about 30K a year

Since: May 12

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#4 Jul 22, 2013
Lump Crown wrote:
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Thank liberalism for the policy that lets you use your OT to calculate your pension, or you would soon be having to live on about 30K a year
Liberalism had nothing to do with it. It was the Democrats pandering to the established Unions for their votes. Today's liberals want to take away from Union workers as much as conservatives do.
Lump Crown

Chesapeake, VA

#5 Jul 22, 2013
BFLO NEOCON wrote:
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Liberalism had nothing to do with it. It was the Democrats pandering to the established Unions for their votes. Today's liberals want to take away from Union workers as much as conservatives do.
I guess you are getting out just in time. Say what you want about Byron, but things could be worse. You ain't Detroit.

I think Detroit is on a Detroit City pension system, and you are on the NYS system, so the entire state would have to go bankrupt to affect you.

I forget what the NYS system is like...Tier I, Tier II, or whatever, but I do know that the latter your tier, the worse off you are. I was in the system for 26 months in 1979 to 1981. I took my money out and then bought back the time in another state's system for $6900 bucks which boosts my pension $2900 bucks a year for the rest of my life. It is a gamble that I will live a little over two years beyond retirement.

I wish my OT went toward my retirement calculation. I made $104,000 in 2008 and some other nice OT in other years which would have boosted my pension another $10,000 if they had the NYS rules. No complaints. I am doing OK. The only debt I have is %70.000 left on my mortgage for the next 13 years

Were you able to buy your military time in the NYS system ?

Since: May 12

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#6 Jul 22, 2013
Lump Crown wrote:
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I guess you are getting out just in time. Say what you want about Byron, but things could be worse. You ain't Detroit.
I think Detroit is on a Detroit City pension system, and you are on the NYS system, so the entire state would have to go bankrupt to affect you.
I forget what the NYS system is like...Tier I, Tier II, or whatever, but I do know that the latter your tier, the worse off you are. I was in the system for 26 months in 1979 to 1981. I took my money out and then bought back the time in another state's system for $6900 bucks which boosts my pension $2900 bucks a year for the rest of my life. It is a gamble that I will live a little over two years beyond retirement.
I wish my OT went toward my retirement calculation. I made $104,000 in 2008 and some other nice OT in other years which would have boosted my pension another $10,000 if they had the NYS rules. No complaints. I am doing OK. The only debt I have is %70.000 left on my mortgage for the next 13 years
Were you able to buy your military time in the NYS system ?
I did not buy my military time. Buying it would have been a waste of money since I maxed out at 32 years service.

I was in Tier 2. I think they are up to Tier 6 now. My pension is based on my highest 3 year average. Tier 1 is based on the final year of service. You had to be appointed before 1973 to be Tier 1.
Lump Crown

Chesapeake, VA

#7 Jul 22, 2013
BFLO NEOCON wrote:
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I did not buy my military time. Buying it would have been a waste of money since I maxed out at 32 years service.
I was in Tier 2. I think they are up to Tier 6 now. My pension is based on my highest 3 year average. Tier 1 is based on the final year of service. You had to be appointed before 1973 to be Tier 1.
It's all about you doing what's best for you and your family---"doing the math". even though I try to push push your buttons, I suspect you are a good person. Best of luck to you my brother even though you are an idiot :)

Since: May 12

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#8 Jul 22, 2013
Lump Crown wrote:
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It's all about you doing what's best for you and your family---"doing the math". even though I try to push push your buttons, I suspect you are a good person. Best of luck to you my brother even though you are an idiot :)
First off...I'm not your brother :)! And of course it's doing what's best for me and family. I was blessed to get a job I loved and getting fairly well paid to do it. I just hope I get to collect my earned pension for a long long time!

And didn't Obama claim he saved Detroit???

“Don't Toews Me Bro!”

Since: Apr 13

The Elite Northeast

#10 Jul 23, 2013
Getting back to Buffalo, I wonder how much of a blow out the Democratic primary will be? Probably just as much as the general will be.
I remember when Byron Brown ran against Kevin Gaughan and John Calvaneso in the primary. Gaughan had more support than the numbers showed, but people were afraid of his ideas even though the county was a complete mess. Instead, the blacks voted for Brown and the South Buffalo whites mostly voted for Calvaneso.
Then came the general election. Blacks all voted for Brown and the Republicans and racist whites (both equally as uninformed ) voted for Kevin Helfer.
That was my first taste of how racially polarized Buffalo really is.
Lump Crown

Chesapeake, VA

#11 Jul 23, 2013
BFLO NEOCON wrote:
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First off...I'm not your brother :)! And of course it's doing what's best for me and family. I was blessed to get a job I loved and getting fairly well paid to do it. I just hope I get to collect my earned pension for a long long time!
And didn't Obama claim he saved Detroit???
I believe he used the term "Detroit" to mean the auto industry

And the Neocons would love to take away a big chunk of that pension you earned. They would even privatize the police department if they thought they could get away with it. Pinkerton would be a good choice

Since: May 12

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#12 Jul 23, 2013
Lump Crown wrote:
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I believe he used the term "Detroit" to mean the auto industry
And the Neocons would love to take away a big chunk of that pension you earned. They would even privatize the police department if they thought they could get away with it. Pinkerton would be a good choice


And four years later Detroit is bankrupt! Way to go Obama.
Fifty years of Democrats running the city of Detroit led to it filing for bankruptcy. Do you think that would have happened if conservations were running Detroit?

What do the top ten cities with the highest poverty rate all have in common? DEMOCRAT LEADERSHIP!

Detroit, MI (1st on the poverty rate list) hasn’t elected
a Republican mayor since 1961;

Buffalo, NY (2nd) hasn’t elected one since 1954;

Cincinnati, OH (3rd)… since 1984;

Cleveland, OH (4th)… since 1989;

Miami, FL (5th) has never had a Republican Mayor;

St. Louis, MO (6th)…. since 1949;

El Paso, TX (7th) has never had a Republican Mayor;

Milwaukee, WI (8th)… since 1908;

Philadelphia, PA (9th)… since 1952;

Newark, NJ (10th)… since 1907.

Einstein once said,“The definition of insanity is doing
the same thing over and over again and always
expecting different results.”

It is the disadvantaged who habitually elect Democrats -
And they are still disadvantaged…
Hmmm…

The Neocons would love to take away our pensions but it's the Liberal Democrats who are actually doing it. Compare Tier 1 to Tier 6. That is all Democrat doings.

Since: Aug 11

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#13 Jul 23, 2013
BFLO NEOCON wrote:
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First off...I'm not your brother :)! And of course it's doing what's best for me and family. I was blessed to get a job I loved and getting fairly well paid to do it. I just hope I get to collect my earned pension for a long long time!
And didn't Obama claim he saved Detroit???
Yes Obama claimed to have saved Detroit with his clunker buyback program. When you have a city full of system suckers that can read just enough to get their checks you will have the problems Detroit has. I can't blame you for not wanting kinship with that talking dingleberry either! I have another couple of yrs to make 30 myself & then I think it's time to collect.....
Lump Crown

Chesapeake, VA

#14 Jul 23, 2013
BFLO NEOCON wrote:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =V6Su5mjQSaEXX
And four years later Detroit is bankrupt! Way to go Obama.
Fifty years of Democrats running the city of Detroit led to it filing for bankruptcy. Do you think that would have happened if conservations were running Detroit?
What do the top ten cities with the highest poverty rate all have in common? DEMOCRAT LEADERSHIP!
Detroit, MI (1st on the poverty rate list) hasn’t elected
a Republican mayor since 1961;
Buffalo, NY (2nd) hasn’t elected one since 1954;
Cincinnati, OH (3rd)… since 1984;
Cleveland, OH (4th)… since 1989;
Miami, FL (5th) has never had a Republican Mayor;
St. Louis, MO (6th)…. since 1949;
El Paso, TX (7th) has never had a Republican Mayor;
Milwaukee, WI (8th)… since 1908;
Philadelphia, PA (9th)… since 1952;
Newark, NJ (10th)… since 1907.
Einstein once said,“The definition of insanity is doing
the same thing over and over again and always
expecting different results.”
It is the disadvantaged who habitually elect Democrats -
And they are still disadvantaged…
Hmmm…
The Neocons would love to take away our pensions but it's the Liberal Democrats who are actually doing it. Compare Tier 1 to Tier 6. That is all Democrat doings.
That 13 second video was surely taken out of context, and it still indicates that he is talking about the auto industry, not the City when his next phrase refers to "ingenuity" and "American workers"

And your Republican Mayor/poor city stats don't fly either. I don't know about the other cities, but you fail to mention "Jimmy Six-Pack" ran on the Conservative ticket.

Those stats don't tell me that Democratic mayors make cities poor. It tells me that poor people tend to vote for Democrats. DUH

Since: May 12

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#15 Jul 23, 2013
Lump Crown wrote:
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That 13 second video was surely taken out of context, and it still indicates that he is talking about the auto industry, not the City when his next phrase refers to "ingenuity" and "American workers"
And your Republican Mayor/poor city stats don't fly either. I don't know about the other cities, but you fail to mention "Jimmy Six-Pack" ran on the Conservative ticket.
Those stats don't tell me that Democratic mayors make cities poor. It tells me that poor people tend to vote for Democrats. DUH
If the auto industry was saved then the city should have recovered. It obviously did not due to mismanagement and liberal policies.

Griffin was a Democrat during his service as a councilman and senator and mayor. Although officially a registered Democrat, Griffin was very conservative compared to the party platform and was frequently cross-endorsed by the Conservatives and Republicans. It was his conservative side that saved the city otherwise Buffalo would be not far behind Detroit in going belly up!

I guess poor people like being poor. That's why they always vote for the Democrats. And the ghetto keeps on spreading. Sooner or later it will reach your neighborhood too...if it hasn't already.
Lump Crown

Chesapeake, VA

#16 Jul 23, 2013
BFLO NEOCON wrote:
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If the auto industry was saved then the city should have recovered. It obviously did not due to mismanagement and liberal policies.
Griffin was a Democrat during his service as a councilman and senator and mayor. Although officially a registered Democrat, Griffin was very conservative compared to the party platform and was frequently cross-endorsed by the Conservatives and Republicans. It was his conservative side that saved the city otherwise Buffalo would be not far behind Detroit in going belly up!
I guess poor people like being poor. That's why they always vote for the Democrats. And the ghetto keeps on spreading. Sooner or later it will reach your neighborhood too...if it hasn't already.
I grew up a block and a half from Main and Fillmore. Does that count? I live on about a mile from a ghetto now. I am just glad I don't live near somebody with 70 cats
Forum Gumshoe

Buffalo, NY

#17 Jul 23, 2013
BFLO NEOCON wrote:
I did not buy my military time. Buying it would have been a waste of money since I maxed out at 32 years service.
You still have another 25 days before you can claim 32 years.
Lump Crown

Chesapeake, VA

#19 Jul 23, 2013
Voice of Genius wrote:
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Wink wink! And he thinks he is anonymous!
Wanna bet he disappears for a week or so now?
He is gump's son. His name is Officer Carbuncle

Since: May 12

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#20 Jul 23, 2013
Lump Crown wrote:
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I grew up a block and a half from Main and Fillmore. Does that count? I live on about a mile from a ghetto now. I am just glad I don't live near somebody with 70 cats
My city house was a lot further than a mile from the ghetto. Now it's in the ghetto. Your time is coming.

I rather live near somebody with 70 cats then in the ghetto.
Lump Crown

Chesapeake, VA

#21 Jul 23, 2013
BFLO NEOCON wrote:
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My city house was a lot further than a mile from the ghetto. Now it's in the ghetto. Your time is coming.
I rather live near somebody with 70 cats then in the ghetto.
I have been living where I do now for 17 years and it has gotten much less ghetto. First there was a nearby massive WWII era housing project torn down and replaced with single family subsidized plastic housing which reduced the density and brought in higher class underclass. Then when Bush ruined the economy, a bunch of people in my immediate neighborhood who should not have been given loans lost their houses. When Obama improved the market, some smart people bought the foreclosed houses, fixed them up, and sold them for a healthy profit to more responsible people. The value of my house has more than doubled since 1996
Lump Crown

Chesapeake, VA

#22 Jul 23, 2013
And by the way, the neighborhood had a cat lady renting a house down the street. You could smell the piss from the street. Her landlord walked away from the house and she had to move. She took some cats with her, but she left behind 35 cats. Somebody bought the place, gutted it, added a bathroom and converted the garage and sold it

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