Cathedral of St. Paul designated a na...

Cathedral of St. Paul designated a national shrine

There are 69 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Jun 16, 2009, titled Cathedral of St. Paul designated a national shrine. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

The Cathedral of Saint Paul is illuminated Wednesday and Thursday nights to commemorate the church's 100th anniversary in Saint Paul Wednesday, May 30, 2007.

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Just Saying

Burnsville, MN

#2 Jun 17, 2009
It's an eyesore. Rip 'er down and get us a new parking ramp. It'll revitalize downtown and we'll get out of this economic crisis. Or at least charge those Bishops or whatever they are some property tax like the rest of us have to pay.

I'm just saying.
Mr Secant

Saint Paul, MN

#3 Jun 17, 2009
How awesome is this shrine!

The building is beautiful, but what happens inside is something else.
Andy

San Francisco, CA

#5 Jun 17, 2009
Great, more gumbas running around St.Paul.
Mornin Mama

Minneapolis, MN

#6 Jun 17, 2009
Sotomayor Defends Membership in All-Women's Club

Tuesday, June 16, 2009 2:24 PM

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WASHINGTON -- Supreme Court nominee Sonia Sotomayor is defending her membership in an elite all-women's club, telling senators the group doesn't discriminate unfairly by gender and involves men in many of its events.

Her explanation came in a letter submitted Monday evening to the Senate Judiciary Committee, which also included copies of several rulings, briefs and speeches the judge had not previously given the panel.

GOP senators had requested the material and questioned Sotomayor's membership in the Belizean Grove, a group of prominent professional women, because federal judges are bound by a code that says they shouldn't join any organization that discriminates by race, sex, religion, or nationality
The Hawk

United States

#7 Jun 17, 2009
First national shrine in Minnesota, you say? Then what is the national shrine of St Odelia in Onamia?
Griz

Saint Paul, MN

#8 Jun 17, 2009
Sola Scriptura Man wrote:
Wow - the Vatican declares the Cathedral a shrine. Am I impressed?- Hardly. This is a place where idolatry takes place on a daily basis. It starts with a bogus papacy and winds its way down to an invalid sacrifical priesthood, which then reinacts Christ's once for all sacrifice on the cross at their daily masses and demands the lay people to worship an inanimate piece of bread. The Lord Jesus will return soon to destroy such places of false worship. Come to the Lord Jesus Christ and flee this idolatrous system before it is swallowed up in judgement.
So tell us, SSM, just where is "sola scriptura" in the Bible?(Hint: it's not there....so where do you get "sola scriptura?")
human too

United States

#9 Jun 17, 2009
Griz wrote:
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So tell us, SSM, just where is "sola scriptura" in the Bible?(Hint: it's not there....so where do you get "sola scriptura?")
Since we've wandered so far from the topic anyway, first things first there, Griz-- what do YOU think "sola scriptura" means? It's a Latin phrase, and since the Bible was originally written in Hebrew, Aramaic, and the ancient Greek dialect known as koine, it's natural that a Latin phrase wouldn't show up there. But I'm guessing your point isn't really about language...
Hooray

Hightstown, NJ

#10 Jun 17, 2009
Congrats to the Cathedral for this! Great to see it get national recognition.
Griz

Saint Paul, MN

#11 Jun 17, 2009
human too wrote:
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Since we've wandered so far from the topic anyway, first things first there, Griz-- what do YOU think "sola scriptura" means? It's a Latin phrase, and since the Bible was originally written in Hebrew, Aramaic, and the ancient Greek dialect known as koine, it's natural that a Latin phrase wouldn't show up there. But I'm guessing your point isn't really about language...
I realize it's Latin. The concept isn't there.
Andy

San Francisco, CA

#12 Jun 17, 2009
Sola Scriptura Man wrote:
Wow - the Vatican declares the Cathedral a shrine. Am I impressed?- Hardly. This is a place where idolatry takes place on a daily basis. It starts with a bogus papacy and winds its way down to an invalid sacrifical priesthood, which then reinacts Christ's once for all sacrifice on the cross at their daily masses and demands the lay people to worship an inanimate piece of bread. The Lord Jesus will return soon to destroy such places of false worship. Come to the Lord Jesus Christ and flee this idolatrous system before it is swallowed up in judgement.
As if a burning bush is any less rediculous. All you crazies are worshipping your "better God" or "better religion" based on stories handed down from human beings, of which "always" get the details correct.

Andy

San Francisco, CA

#13 Jun 17, 2009
human too wrote:
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Since we've wandered so far from the topic anyway, first things first there, Griz-- what do YOU think "sola scriptura" means? It's a Latin phrase, and since the Bible was originally written in Hebrew, Aramaic, and the ancient Greek dialect known as koine, it's natural that a Latin phrase wouldn't show up there. But I'm guessing your point isn't really about language...
It means,"pass the collection plate."

Since: Jun 08

Saint Paul, MN

#14 Jun 17, 2009
The Hawk wrote:
First national shrine in Minnesota, you say? Then what is the national shrine of St Odelia in Onamia?
As you say, the national shrine in the town of Onamia is for St. Odelia.

This national shrine in the city of St. Paul is for St. Paul.

Both are the first national shrines in the United States for these saints.

It is a beautiful building for worshippers and a spirtitual place for healing. What goes on inside the shrine is much more important than the building itself.
denis m

Watertown, SD

#15 Jun 17, 2009
One correction, folks! In 1958, the consecration was done by Archbishop William O (standing for Otterwell, his mother's maiden name) Brady, Not O'Brady. Sorry about that.
Sola Scriptura Man

Minneapolis, MN

#16 Jun 17, 2009
Gritz - You say the concept of "Sola Scriptura" is not in Scripture - Are we talking about the same "Scripture"? Have you read Genesis where Satan first questions the truthfulness of what God has said (His Word)? Have you read throughout the Old & New Testaments and all the references to the exalted status of the Word of God? Scripture is exalted throughout. How about John 17:17 "Sanctify them in Your truth. Your Word is Truth!" Is Roman Catholic Tradition ever placed on an equal level as Sacred Scripture? No! Here's some great places to start - just dust off your Bible and look these verses up: John 10:35, 2 Timothy 3:16-17, Psalm 11:3, Matthew 5:17-18. I could go on and on. People who don't want to see the authority of Scripture in Scripture won't - not because it isn't there - they just want to hang on to the "traditions of men" - which are heavy in the RC system...Sola Deo Gloria!
Griz

Waconia, MN

#17 Jun 17, 2009
Sola Scriptura Man wrote:
Gritz - You say the concept of "Sola Scriptura" is not in Scripture - Are we talking about the same "Scripture"? Have you read Genesis where Satan first questions the truthfulness of what God has said (His Word)? Have you read throughout the Old & New Testaments and all the references to the exalted status of the Word of God? Scripture is exalted throughout. How about John 17:17 "Sanctify them in Your truth. Your Word is Truth!" Is Roman Catholic Tradition ever placed on an equal level as Sacred Scripture? No! Here's some great places to start - just dust off your Bible and look these verses up: John 10:35, 2 Timothy 3:16-17, Psalm 11:3, Matthew 5:17-18. I could go on and on. People who don't want to see the authority of Scripture in Scripture won't - not because it isn't there - they just want to hang on to the "traditions of men" - which are heavy in the RC system...Sola Deo Gloria!
I think I see the problem- you don't have a clear understanding of sola scriptura.

“Here I come to save the Day!”

Since: Jan 09

Gothem city

#18 Jun 17, 2009
It does matter if it is a national shine.... it is beautiful to us and full of history.
FAS

Burnsville, MN

#20 Jun 18, 2009
Eugenio Pacelli, friend of Mussolini, Franco and Hitler, celebrated mass here! That's sure something to be proud of!
Mornin Mama

Minneapolis, MN

#21 Jun 18, 2009
http://www.gotquestions.org/gay-marriage.html

While the Bible does address homosexuality, it does not explicitly mention gay marriage/same-sex marriage.

It is clear, however, that the Bible condemns homosexuality as an immoral and unnatural sin.

Leviticus 18:22 identifies homosexual sex as an abomination, a detestable sin.

Romans 1:26-27 declares homosexual desires and actions to be shameful, unnatural, lustful, and indecent.

First Corinthians 6:9 states that homosexuals are unrighteous and will not inherit the kingdom of God.

Since both homosexual desires and actions are condemned in the Bible, it is clear that homosexuals “marrying” is not God’s will, and would be, in fact, sinful

Since: Jun 08

Saint Paul, MN

#22 Jun 18, 2009
Mornin Mama wrote:
http://www.gotquestions.org/ga y-marriage.html
While the Bible does address homosexuality, it does not explicitly mention gay marriage/same-sex marriage.
It is clear, however, that the Bible condemns homosexuality as an immoral and unnatural sin.
Leviticus 18:22 identifies homosexual sex as an abomination, a detestable sin.
Romans 1:26-27 declares homosexual desires and actions to be shameful, unnatural, lustful, and indecent.
First Corinthians 6:9 states that homosexuals are unrighteous and will not inherit the kingdom of God.
Since both homosexual desires and actions are condemned in the Bible, it is clear that homosexuals “marrying” is not God’s will, and would be, in fact, sinful
I do agree with your post, but the subject is not about homosexuals and their disorder.

The topic is about the Cathedral of St. Paul and the honor it just received.
Cindy Stainker

Saint Paul, MN

#24 Jun 18, 2009
I would loved to have been there in 1907 to see the cornerstone being laid. This building is one of the most beautiful in MN, IMO.

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