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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 147223 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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“Memento mori”

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#79199 May 22, 2012
havent forgotten wrote:
I think the Winchester person is the same one giving trouble to several other regular commenters on topix. by using their names. maybe we should all refuse to reply to that it with no name??
He has been a pest to me to say the least. He's followed me to troll in several threads. He is only trying to get a rise out of people. But I do notice that some of his posts have been deleted.
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#79202 May 22, 2012
JustSaying28 wrote:
<quoted text>
to answer your question... The bible says the only sinner that can't be forgiven is a non believer. It says how can one rise above and ask the lord to be forgiven if one does not believe in the lord.
now I replied to this once, and I replied to another of your comments that seemed to be more kindly in tone, I think, and I am confused a bit. If one needs to be forgiven, and does not believe, why does one need to be forgiven by the socalled lord? one needs to be forgiven by the living creature that one has harmed, of course, and by all who love that creature, and all who identify with similar beings. to be forgiven, you must make reparations to the fullest extent possible to the one you have injured and those who are also hurt by the injury to him/her/or it. you must endeavor never to inflict such harm on any other living being again, and to try to help others harmed by others as well. if your sin is smoking, you harm yourself, and you should quit, and you harm anyone who is around you when you smoke. you should make it up by having a very clean smokefree and pollution free house and car and environment. if your sin is drinking and driving, never do it again. if your sin is doing any wilful injury to another, never do it again. the answer to how can I be forgiven is - "when you do not do it again" and that is for starters. you must pay for the full cost of the injury to whomever you have injured, and ask for forgiveness and ask for suggestions as to what else you can do to repair the damage and hurt to that being - if a person ask the person if he can reply, if a mute person or an animal, get someone who understands him to reply as to his opinion. pay vets for taking care of injured strays is one good suggestion for making up damages to poor critters you might have hurt or killed.

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

London, KY

#79203 May 22, 2012
havent forgotten wrote:
I think the Winchester person is the same one giving trouble to several other regular commenters on topix. by using their names. maybe we should all refuse to reply to that it with no name??
Yea!!
Yes and Amen

Pikeville, KY

#79204 May 22, 2012
havent forgotten wrote:
<quoted text> you are correct, it would have a tremendous impact if it were taught in our public schools. It would mean that we are no longer a democracy, that we no longer have religious freedom, that we are instead a theocratic tyranny - which is what many of the fundies want.
If you want to have your religion taught in a church-sponsored Sunday school, with no government funds or employees involved in an official capacity, you have that right under the first amendment freedom of religion clause. You have no right to impose your religion in public schools paid for with taxpayers money, or to have any government employee involved in facilitating the teaching of any religion in a public school, or the observing of any religion in a public school in any way disruptive to the ordinary school activities - which should include learning rational thinking, which of course would be a very dangerous thing for the fundies if it actually were learned.
Blessed is the Nation who's God is the Lord!
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#79205 May 22, 2012
havent forgotten wrote:
<quoted text>
Grab the torches! Rally a mob, I mean support group. Band together for the good of topix! Let us unite!
LOL
Better yet, just ignore the people who hurt your feelings... if you can.
I'm sure all the people I intimidate will heed your groveling plea.
You're like some kind of topix saint, aren't you?
Pathetic... yet strangely amusing.
oh, it sounds too stuck up for me to be telling me that I sound like a sort of topix saint, but I agree that I am mostly very nice to nice people. I seldom get my feelings hurt by inferior persons like you, whoever you are with no name of your own - no wonder you are so silly in thinking you intimidate folks, when you annoy them mostly in a way that a swarm of knats might. have you considered talking to a professional therapist about your lack of an identity of your own?
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#79208 May 22, 2012
EssentialSalts wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, the one post I made to you on the Essential YouTube thread was deleted, Salty.
It seems I hurt your feelings and you chose the route to censorship. How wimpy.
It's not like Chris Tolles put out an A.P.B. on me. Any post can be deleted if you send in the feedback form. Is that supposed to "put the fear in me"?
LOL
I'm ecstatic to learn that I've been a thorn in your side, though.
You brought a little smile to my face.
*smirk*
yes, you are like a little swarm of knats, more than a thorn. I actually do not know what to think about having CT put out an apb on you. censorship would imply that you were something more than a mere bother, except in case of a particular comment that is bad enough on its own merits, other than your little game of using the names of others. you are not even good at discrediting your own town, since no one there would like you either, or take credit for your existence there if you even live there. how can you be ecstatic, and enjoy smirking. you seem like a very juvenile person and maybe you are a juvenile, or a child even?
Yes and Amen

Pikeville, KY

#79209 May 22, 2012
havent forgotten wrote:
<quoted text> obviously some fool from louisiana has tried to use my name. I hate to think that it might be typical of folks from La. I have always protested against imposters, even against those who are mocking people I strongly disagree with. imposters are a form of scam. if anyone has any standards of civility on topix, one should oppose them, no matter whom they impersonate.
Finaly.... you've said something I can agree with!
LOL... I had to double check, cause I thought it was you...
sorry for the doubt!
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#79210 May 22, 2012
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
Yea!!
yes, but he is such a mere thing. would it not perhaps hurt his psyche to not acknowledge that he exists, even if he has no name. I begin to feel sorry for him, and think he needs some help.
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#79211 May 22, 2012
EssentialSalts wrote:
You people sure are thin skinned when you find somebody who disagrees with your nonsense.
I imagine you as the little quivering, sniveling kids huddled together in the corner of the playground whining about the "big, bad bullies."
Perhaps you're in over your head on topix if your feelings are that fragile.
On that note, EssentialSalts and Quanty would like to invite you all to their YouTube party where it's nice and safe and you can all watch relevant videos of bunnies and unicorns while listening to Daryl Hall & John Oates.
you poor thing. If you see yourself as a bully, and want to be, what is wrong with you? are people unkind to you in real life and are you trying to hurt others? are you feeling pleased to think you are hurtful? that is a very sick response, if others are bullying you in real life. If you do not dare stand up to them, you should tell someone at school, some adult you trust, that you are being bullied and cannot stand it, and are trying to bully others in a way that does not get you hurt, but it still does not work to stop the others who are bullying you.
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#79212 May 22, 2012
EssentialSalts wrote:
<quoted text>
He has been a pest to me to say the least. He's followed me to troll in several threads. He is only trying to get a rise out of people. But I do notice that some of his posts have been deleted.
please read the trend of my replies to him. one has to use a little imagination about what might be causing him to act out as he does. I am not much of an authority on teenage childish behavior. I make friends with the most interesting intelligent grownup confident ones. maybe we should pity him...
Yes and Amen

Pikeville, KY

#79214 May 22, 2012
EssentialSalts wrote:
<quoted text>
I wouldn't have a problem with schools telling students about homosexuals and how they should be more accepting of them. Maybe then they won't be bullied and harassed over their sexual orientation. It's not like they're going to teach the students to be homosexual (which isn't possible in the first place).
As for schools going downhill, part of that is theists trying to remove fact-based science like evolution and force creationism into the classroom. Education has it's funding cut quite often; teachers get fired, classrooms get crowded, various programs are cut.
Your way of thinking is backwards. I guess your idea of freedom of religion is the freedom of forcing your religion onto other people. Your views of homosexuality lead me to believe you're a bigot. Your way of thinking is damaging this country; it's part of the reason we're regressing.
How many Girls kissed after hearing that song? How many are still kissing?
And you say you have facts.... You have Zip, nadda, goose egg!
Thus sayeth the Lord...
A Fool in his heart says there is no God!
Professing yourself to be wise... you become a fool!
Need I say more, or is it going over your head?

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

London, KY

#79216 May 22, 2012
havent forgotten wrote:
<quoted text> yes, but he is such a mere thing. would it not perhaps hurt his psyche to not acknowledge that he exists, even if he has no name. I begin to feel sorry for him, and think he needs some help.
Well you of course can do what ever you wish... I just don't give a crap about such idiocy.... Sometimes the best Help for some is to kick em to the curb and laugh at them as you pass by...
Yes and Amen

Pikeville, KY

#79220 May 22, 2012
EssentialSalts wrote:
<quoted text>
I wasn't referring to all Christians as being bigoted or oppressive. When I was talking about bigotry, I was talking about that poster specifically and people who think like him. He seems to hate a specific group and uses religion to justify it (same with YAA and a few other posters who have shown here).
I don't even hate a Liar like you!
As for any other sinner on earth... NO!
See, I KNOW the Truth... bad is bad!
People do NOT have to stay bad!
That's what you do not get!
Freedom is just a Prayer away!
That is your choice... To be saved, or Not to be saved!
You do not have to come out of the sewers if you do not want to!

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#79222 May 22, 2012
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>Blessed is the Nation who's God is the Lord!
You do realize this country was not founded on Christianity don't you? Look up the Treaty of Tripoli. Voted on by the Senate. Passed with a 100% vote.
Yes and Amen

Pikeville, KY

#79223 May 22, 2012
Occams Razor wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes and Amen posted this in response to 'bad men' Hitler, etc.
Please for YOUR God's sake, do some reading!! Hitler was raised Roman Catholic!! AKA Christian! The SS Nazi's had German words on their belt buckles that translated into "God is with us"!! Hitler and his 'followers' were doing God's work. I've been to Germany, and I have seen the belt buckles in person.
And just one more thing on abortion, becuase it seems that YOU and many Christians are fixated on it. Why didn't you get on President Bush about abortion? He had 8 years to do something about it. Oh yeah, he and Cheney were too busy making money for themselves in oil and no bid contracts for Cheney's company. Do you think that NO abortions took place when he was President?
The FACT is that no Republican will EVER stop abortion, because that is the ONE wedge issue that keep their uneducated base coming back for more!!
Clueless!

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#79225 May 22, 2012
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>Clueless!
That's exactly the response I expected when facts are presented.
havent forgotten

San Jose, CA

#79227 May 22, 2012
havent forgotten wrote:
now of course I am having trouble with that same idiot who uses the names of others, and writes stupid comments. I think every one knows I am from Iowa, since there are so few Iowans on topix - most of us out working especially farming or work in small towns and thriving cities, or on well-deserved breaks after school years at mostly very good schools.(no cost to state of Iowa for that promotional). you deserve no answer for your comment because you are an impersonator and imposter, and also because you misrepresent content as well, and also because you are not liked by anyone at all.<quoted text>
Name calling is a sure sign you have been offended.
Perhaps, you should look into some anger management classes "there in Iowa."

You're not from Iowa.

“Memento mori”

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#79228 May 22, 2012
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>How many Girls kissed after hearing that song? How many are still kissing?
And you say you have facts.... You have Zip, nadda, goose egg!
Thus sayeth the Lord...
A Fool in his heart says there is no God!
Professing yourself to be wise... you become a fool!
Need I say more, or is it going over your head?
Where is your proof that girls are doing that because of a song? You have nothing.

You can use as many quotes and analogies as you want to try and "prove" you're right for your beliefs but they don't make it so. Music doesn't make people gay; having an innate desire to be with the same sex does.

And you _still_ did not answer my question about heaven and hell. Why is it okay to send someone to hell if they don't believe, but it's also fine to send someone to heaven after raping and murdering if they are saved?

If I give $20 to havent forgotten and Quanty forgives havent of that $20 debt to me, I've not gained anything. I've lost something. So if an atheist is murdered by a Christian, the Christian will go to heaven and the atheist won't. That is not justice.
havent forgotten

San Jose, CA

#79229 May 22, 2012
Occams Razor wrote:
<quoted text>
So, you're saying that Aesop, etc. is taught as fact? See there's the rub...Religious Fairy Tales at private schools are taught as fact.
There's a classroom in Norhtern Ky you can go to and see some 'FACT' the Creation Museum where humans rode dinosaurs around. Go into ANY college class and defend those 'FACTS.'
It doesn't surprise me that you missed the point.

I was saying that Aesop's Fables are NOT fact.
Google the word fable.
It's similar to a fairy tale.

You claimed you won't send your kids to a school that teaches fairy tales.
You don't even realize fables, mythology, and other fantasy stories are a big part of public school literature classes. You were just trying to insult Christians, but it backfired and made you look like a bigger fool.

Ignorance still shocks me. I don't know why. I should be used to it, since it's rampant on Topix.
Yes and Amen

Pikeville, KY

#79230 May 22, 2012
havent forgotten wrote:
so Catholics are not Christians according to you. please list all others who think they are cHRISTIANS and are not Christians according to you, by individuals, churches, denominations, etc.<quoted text>
You can search it yourself!
Jesus said "I am the way, the Truth, and the Life, no one comes to the Father except by me!"...
Hail Mary full of Grace... Please tell Jesus that I Love God...
Catholocism is Pagan/Christian Hybred AKA Anti-Christ!

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