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HughBe

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Dec 5, 2013
 
Frijoles wrote:
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Ever ask a car salesman to give you a lap dance? I dont think I would want to go there. Not that there is anything wrong with it.
By the way, you and Liam have similar personalities i.e. jovial etc.

Your problem is your religion, when it possess you it turns a very likable person into hog shiT.
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Dec 5, 2013
 
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HughBe wrote:
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1. Mary was from the tribe of Judah and not Levi.
2. Joseph was not Jesus' biological father.
3. Jesus is the one who shall sit on Davids throne.
If Jesus was not the true born son of Joseph, he was not eligible to sit on the throne of David. Bastards are not anointed as kings.(Congressmen, yes, kings, no)

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Liam R --Maybe quibbling over terms, but I suspect that he DOES know how homophobic he is, he just doesn't use that word and claims that he is justified in his opinion. The real question is if that homophobia is based on repressed attraction to men...
Frijoles---In Hughbes case, absolutely!
HughBe--- Both of you are two flocing funny fellows. I had a good laugh.
So, just like the Flintstones, you had a really gay old time?

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Liam R wrote:
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If Jesus was not the true born son of Joseph, he was not eligible to sit on the throne of David. Bastards are not anointed as kings.(Congressmen, yes, kings, no)
Yes, that is the crux the open question addressed to Hugh that he refuses to address, and the reason why I am ignoring him until he does.

(or he can just accept my terms, previously posted a number of times, and I would accept that as an acceptable resolution)

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Yes, that is the crux the open question addressed to Hugh that he refuses to address, and the reason why I am ignoring him until he does.
(or he can just accept my terms, previously posted a number of times, and I would accept that as an acceptable resolution)
But to acknowledge that is to agree that xianity has no basis...

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Liam R wrote:
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But to acknowledge that is to agree that xianity has no basis...
I know - doesnt that suck?

Seriously, that's why I offered three points of negotiated surrender. In summary-
1) acknowledge that faith is the basis for his belief in the idea of Jesus, and not biblical logic
2)apologize for past jihads against "rabbis"
3) immediate cessation of future rants

Really I am not asking for much. Just common sense given his indefensible position.

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Frijoles wrote:
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Ever ask a car salesman to give you a lap dance? I dont think I would want to go there. Not that there is anything wrong with it.
rabbee: i don't think, you need to ask for that.

and since i retired, i use public transportation or sandal leather express. it is really no longer worth it to have a car, that would only be used once or twice a week. not like i need a car, to go four blocks to the grocery store. or about 8 blocks, to downtown Denver. and the 16th street, mall shuttle is free.

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yehoshooah adam wrote:
<quoted text>... i use public transportation ...
So YOU'RE that crazy, homeless guy we always see on the bus.

You're the reason no one likes to take public transport.

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So YOU'RE that crazy, homeless guy we always see on the bus.
You're the reason no one likes to take public transport.
rabbee: aaahnt! false witness - i live in an apartment on corona st in Denver. and I've begun working through a realtor, to purchase a house. it has gotten a lot cheaper to buy a house, than it is to rent.

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Frijoles wrote:
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I know - doesnt that suck?
Seriously, that's why I offered three points of negotiated surrender. In summary-
1) acknowledge that faith is the basis for his belief in the idea of Jesus, and not biblical logic
2)apologize for past jihads against "rabbis"
3) immediate cessation of future rants
Really I am not asking for much. Just common sense given his indefensible position.
rabbee: well i don't see where faith in your, new jewish testament has faired any better.

and why should i apologize, for G-D to confuse one of their enemies to attack another and vice versa? so quit assuming that jews, are not an enemy of G-D again today.

when you know that your terrorism, against their terrorism does not work that well in idolatry. all you do is create, more terrorist space for other worse terrorist to move in. even american terrorism in idolatry, can't ever stop all the idolatry terrorism in this world. even if you should eliminate one, ten other terrorist evil spirit idolaters are waiting for their chance.

even if you should conquer a people, or nation. if you do not fill it in with the real truth of G-D, then ten worse evil spirits will return to fill it in.

and i do not care if anyone rants, as long as it is the truth of G-D here in TheTorah. or have you not heard, some of the prophets considered as raving lunatics?

and no i no longer believe, G-D lied to me about 60 years ago. or was a case, of mistaken identity. when THEY came and said, i am this worlds grandfather adam. returned here at the end of the sixth day actually in TheTorah again. and also told me, about the woman thingy.

i did not want any of this to be true, but it is. no more than i wanted an extreemly painful reminder, in the second visit fourty one years later. just like it says, in The Written Torah is all happening again.

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yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: well i don't see where faith in your, new jewish testament has faired any better.
We werent discussing what was "better" in the sense you are referring to. All I wanted was honesty regarding the where the fundamental basis of belief in his messiah figure comes from.

Nothing wrong to base your beliefs on faith IMO. Not all religions or modes of worship appeal to everyone - some people need an anthropomorphized human deity to direct their energies to, and some people (like me) don't. I think ultimately it leads you to the same place - the only difference is that in my path I try not disparage other's habits unless provoked, while certain other posters do (in a logically inane attempt to rationalize their habits and path).

That all said, if those certain other posters would just give up their rationalizations and accept faith for what it is, perhaps they would be a better person by not disparaging other's belief systems.

Organized religion is just one huge glass house IMO - with separate apartments - silly to throw stones at your neighbor.

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So YOU'RE that crazy, homeless guy we always see on the bus.
You're the reason no one likes to take public transport.
As long as "crazy" showers, I can deal.

Though I have to agree with Yoshie that driving a car is perhaps a few steps more crazy than taking public transportation if it is available. Driving sucks.

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I've begun working through a realtor, to purchase a house.

it has gotten a lot cheaper to buy a house, than it is to rent.
You live in a rented apartment all these years?

Surprising.

Given your advanced age and single status, I think it would be better to stay put in your rented pad than to make an outright purchase of real estate which would be a waste of money.

Wishing you the very best in life.

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Hello Papa (Frijoles).

Hope all's well with you.

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Dec 6, 2013
 
ERIC,

I read a post of yours addressed to the dunce Hugh in which you refer to subsets and Venn diagrams.

Really?

I don't think you're good at Math (not even of the Grade 7 level).

Anyway, I wish you the very best.

(smiles)

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If Jesus was not the true born son of Joseph, he was not eligible to sit on the throne of David.

Bastards are not anointed as kings.(Congressmen, yes, kings, no)
True what you have said about Jesus.

But, how come satanists, perverts, mass murderers and criminals like the biblical David are anointed as kings?

Think a bit before you post.

Use the little intelligence that you possess in an unbiased and in a rational manner.

Ok?

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We missed you like we miss a bout of virulent diarrhea

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Had I been the prophesied Moshiach or Messiah, I would have fled the world in shame and horror rather than be related by blood to an evil man like the biblical David who crimes and perversions stretch a mile long.

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Dec 6, 2013
 
Frijoles wrote:
We missed you like we miss a bout of virulent diarrhea
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Thank you.

I appreciate your frankness.

I missed you.

I once referred to you during a conversation in Israel in the home of a family member and at that moment felt the need to have you by my side.

Well, anyway, take care and wishing you the very best in life.

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