Messianic Jews say they are persecute...

Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#48089 Jan 29, 2013
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that’s even remotely true!
(Homer Simpson)
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#48090 Jan 29, 2013
BLISS:

Bliss is not an emotional state but is a state of delight of the pure consciousness that is felt or experienced by the individual's merged consciousness in the bliss of the manifested pure consciousness. The bliss of the pure consciousness is experienced when the individualized consciousness, by a supreme yoga, completely rises out of the Cosmic Ignorance and as such frees itself of the restrictions of the causal laws and the unregenerate phenomena of the planes of the lower manifestation. The Bliss of the Pure Consciousness in manifestation is a separate plane of existence that stands high above the planes of supermind, overmind, intuition mind, illumined, higher mind, higher vital, lower vital, subtle physical and gross physical and if made to descend into the lower planes it may be reflected in modified form in the supramental, mental, emotional and physical states of being.

Yeah!
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#48091 Jan 29, 2013
A fact may not be a truth but a truth is always a fact!

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#48093 Jan 29, 2013
JOEL wrote:
BLISS:
Bliss is not an emotional state but is a state of delight of the pure consciousness that is felt or experienced by the individual's merged consciousness in the bliss of the manifested pure consciousness. The bliss of the pure consciousness is experienced when the individualized consciousness, by a supreme yoga, completely rises out of the Cosmic Ignorance and as such frees itself of the restrictions of the causal laws and the unregenerate phenomena of the planes of the lower manifestation. The Bliss of the Pure Consciousness in manifestation is a separate plane of existence that stands high above the planes of supermind, overmind, intuition mind, illumined, higher mind, higher vital, lower vital, subtle physical and gross physical and if made to descend into the lower planes it may be reflected in modified form in the supramental, mental, emotional and physical states of being.
Yeah!
Don't diss bliss on Wikipedia

it will down your day

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#48094 Jan 29, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that’s even remotely true!
(Homer Simpson)
I didn't realize Homer was a Republican.

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#48095 Jan 29, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that’s even remotely true!
(Homer Simpson)
We Won’t Let Our Campaign Be Dictated By Fact-Checkers - Romney pollster Neil Newhouse

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#48096 Jan 29, 2013
Cult of Reason wrote:
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We Won’t Let Our Campaign Be Dictated By Fact-Checkers - Romney pollster Neil Newhouse
Funny you should bring that up

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/25/romn...

Romney Campaign Seeks Correction From Fact-Checker Of Jeep Ad, Fact-Checker Says,'No.'

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#48097 Jan 29, 2013
Cult of Reason wrote:
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I didn't realize Homer was a Republican.
Homer is the archetypal Republican. The little guy who lets himself be led, against his own interests.
former res

Broomall, PA

#48098 Jan 29, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Homer is the archetypal Republican. The little guy who lets himself be led, against his own interests.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#48099 Jan 29, 2013
former res wrote:
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Of course I don't know him. He does not exist.
But I assume that he does for you.
And we all know of the teachings; the Beatitudes; the Golden Rule.
And it seems your actions, your words, do not follow in the proper spirit.
Though I'm sure you can rationalize this with your circuitous meanderings.
<quoted text>
It is when you are truly challenged (and even outraged) that the appropriate response matters.
Anyone can be Christ-like in fair weather.
<quoted text>
Wealthy people live with wealthy people and poor people live with poor people.
Your faux indignation cannot undo this simple truth.
You have much to learn my child.
Stay the course.
Former--I am quite sure he would not approve of your resorting to such sharp and cutting invective to make your point, whatever that might be.

HughBe--- How can you be sure given that you don't know Him?

Former--Of course I don't know him. He does not exist.

HughBe--- "He does not exist" and YET you are "quite sure he would not approve" of my comment.

Former--But I assume that he does for you.

HughBe--- So I should be sure and not you.

Former--And we all know of the teachings; the Beatitudes; the Golden Rule.

HughBe-- WE know of the teachings of a fictitious person. Interesting

Former--He was a kind and understanding man who was given to "turning the other cheek."

HughBe--- I too am KIND and understanding and I do turn the other cheek BUT not always.

Former--It is when you are truly challenged (and even outraged) that the appropriate response matters.

HughBe--- Profound

Former--Anyone can be Christ-like in fair weather.

HughBe-- Tell me what would constitute being Christ-like if there is no Christ.

Former---And of course there is de facto segregation of houses of worship (and schools and other institutions) simply by virture of geography/where they are located.

HughBe--- At least you have demonstrated some level of INTELLIGENCE. However, your SEGREGATION ejaculation has taken away from the merit of your words as it shows that you don't have a full grasp of your own words.

Former--Wealthy people live with wealthy people and poor people live with poor people.

HughBe--- Brilliant observation.

Former--Your faux indignation cannot undo this simple truth.

HughBe--- I have not sought to undo a self-evident TRUTH.

Former--You have much to learn my child.Stay the course.

HughBe--Well papa you have stopped learning, what a pity.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#48110 Jan 29, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Former--And we all know of the teachings; the Beatitudes; the Golden Rule.
HughBe-- WE know of the teachings of a fictitious person. Interesting
.
Homer Simpson is also a source of wisdom. Whats your point?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#48111 Jan 29, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Homer Simpson is also a source of wisdom. Whats your point?
So, in your mind Homer Simpson is the SOURCE of the wisdom that comes from him.

Well, there is nothing more for me to say as your words say it all.

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#48112 Jan 29, 2013
I thought Messianic Judaism was viewed as a branch of Christianity by the Jewish community.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#48113 Jan 29, 2013
01Justsayin wrote:
I thought Messianic Judaism was viewed as a branch of Christianity by the Jewish community.
"Messianic Judaism" sounds like a branch of Judaism to me.

Tell me, how did the Jews who followed Jesus, the Jew, view their discipleship?

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#48114 Jan 29, 2013
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>"Messianic Judaism" sounds like a branch of Judaism to me.

Tell me, how did the Jews who followed Jesus, the Jew, view their discipleship?
Actually there is debate as to whether they were a group of believers known as the Essenes (Jesus being a Nazarene and all) or not. From an outside perspective (I'm christian), messianic judaism appears to be the closest one can get to seeking The Way as the original twelve did. However, I have read that Jews don't consider it to be a branch of Judaism. Again, I am not a Jew. I am a gentile who chooses to live as closely to the root of the Tree of Life as possible.
jim

San Leandro, CA

#48115 Jan 29, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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"Messianic Judaism" sounds like a branch of Judaism to me.
Tell me, how did the Jews who followed Jesus, the Jew, view their discipleship?
read the letters of Paul in the new testament

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#48116 Jan 29, 2013
jim wrote:
<quoted text>read the letters of Paul in the new testament
Uh uh. You can keep your Paulianity to yourself.

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#48118 Jan 29, 2013
jim wrote:
<quoted text>Then read the bible. Friend
I do. Often.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#48119 Jan 29, 2013
Eric wrote:
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Are you being obtuse or what?
Trying to kill a 14 year old girl because she wanted to go to school. Barbaric.
That is your problem you do not know whom to blame. That is why I said you have a "complex personality".

Changing the topic of discussion all of a sudden and go into a different direction altogether. These are tell tale signs of such a personality.

Like me blaming that school shooting incident as "typical American way of living".
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#48120 Jan 29, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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"Messianic Judaism" sounds like a branch of Judaism to me.
Tell me, how did the Jews who followed Jesus, the Jew, view their discipleship?
Messianic Jews, if they are really what they claim to be, are the True Jews and the True Christians too.

However if they have taken this title only as a label to misguide people, then they are as false as so many church groups and denominations.

Allah Knows Best.

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