Upshur County Is Now Smoke Free

Upshur County Is Now Smoke Free

There are 47 comments on the WBOY-TV story from Jun 11, 2007, titled Upshur County Is Now Smoke Free. In it, WBOY-TV reports that:

Posted Monday, June 11, 2007 ; 06:11 PM Updated Monday, June 11, 2007 ; 06:43 PM County wide smoking ban for restaurants and bars, now in effect. via WBOY-TV

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CLARK

Charleston, WV

#22 Jul 28, 2008
Audrey's restaurant is still allowing their customers to smoke, in spite of being fined $200.00 for the first offense.
Edd

Charleston, WV

#23 Aug 28, 2008
First it was isolate the smokers, so much money was spent to build seperate rooms, etc. Then the non-smokers must have realized all the fun people were there and when they went in they saw the smoke so they decided those rooms had to be smoke free too.
I'm glad somebody is standing up to the NON-elected group that decided that they can tell PRIVATE owned business how they can go about running their business. If an establishment wants to allow smoking it should be their right, and if the anti-smoking groups must whine then place a sign on the door like they do with microwaves.
GO AUDREY'S!!!!
Winning Lottery Ticket

Lake Mary, FL

#24 Aug 28, 2008
CLARK wrote:
Audrey's restaurant is still allowing their customers to smoke, in spite of being fined $200.00 for the first offense.
There's a Winning Lottery Ticket. If the law states you can't smoke inside and Audrey's blatantly allows people to harm other people with their Second Hand Smoke - well BINGO, LAWSUIT CITY!!!Someone goes in and gets a headache and that person just won Audrey's business. Just wait until the Insurance company finds out and drops their Liability Insurance.
Laws are laws and they disobeyed the law, that's an easy one, probably will settle out of court.

Just an after thought, if Audrey's doesn't abide by those laws what other health codes don't they follow. Green eggs and Ham & Roach Soup!!!! em em good...

“Ctrl/Alt/C”

Since: Jun 08

Indianapolis, IN

#25 Aug 28, 2008
Winning Lottery Ticket wrote:
Just an after thought, if Audrey's doesn't abide by those laws what other health codes don't they follow. Green eggs and Ham & Roach Soup!!!! em em good...
Did you break the speed limit law on the way to work this morning? If you don't abide by that law, what other laws do you ignore? I bet you have dead bodies buried in your backyard...

See how silly that argument is?
Winning Lottery Ticket

Dallas, TX

#26 Aug 28, 2008
Aloxety wrote:
<quoted text>
Did you break the speed limit law on the way to work this morning? If you don't abide by that law, what other laws do you ignore? I bet you have dead bodies buried in your backyard...
See how silly that argument is?
What the hell are you talking about? You are the silly one.
If I speed I take the risk of getting a ticket. If I speed and injure someone I get a hasher sentence.
If I speed and kill someone I suffer more penalties and civil suits.
I'm held accountable!!!

Same as the clown who owns Audrey's Restaurant.
He/she breaks the law and should suffer the consquences.

I apologize you're not silly, just simple very simple.

“Ctrl/Alt/C”

Since: Jun 08

United States

#27 Aug 28, 2008
Winning Lottery Ticket wrote:
<quoted text>
What the hell are you talking about? You are the silly one.
If I speed I take the risk of getting a ticket. If I speed and injure someone I get a hasher sentence.
If I speed and kill someone I suffer more penalties and civil suits.
I'm held accountable!!!
Same as the clown who owns Audrey's Restaurant.
He/she breaks the law and should suffer the consquences.
I apologize you're not silly, just simple very simple.
"That argument" was referring to your 'if they allow smoking, they probably have bugs in the kitchen too' deduction.

Re: SHS lawsuits, in 1986, Surgeon General Koop released a report solely dedicated to health hazards from secondhand smoke. It's now twenty-two years later. What, they say 60,000 die every year from SHS? So that's 1,320,000 deaths.

Kind of odd that of all of those people, only a handful of people have sued, wouldn't you say? In fact, to my knowledge there have only been four successful lawsuits:(Ubhi v. State Compensation Insurance Fund 1990, Magaw v. Middletown Board of Education 1998, Husain, et al. v. Olympic Airways 2000, and French v. Philip Morris Inc. 2002).

You'd think that if a case were there for the remaining 1,319,998 (only two of the successful cases involved deaths), there'd be lawyers all over it.

“Non smoking freedom loving vet”

Since: Apr 08

Chicago

#28 Aug 28, 2008
CLARK wrote:
Audrey's restaurant is still allowing their customers to smoke, in spite of being fined $200.00 for the first offense.
It's better than just laying down and closing due to lack of business. Are any CUSTOMERS complaining?

“Non smoking freedom loving vet”

Since: Apr 08

Chicago

#29 Aug 28, 2008
Their customers??? Did you go there with the intention of being a customer?
Edd

Charleston, WV

#30 Sep 4, 2008
If you don't like the smoker friendly atmosphere you have the FREEDOM to leave, just as a private business owner should have the FREEDOM to post a sign stating "smoking allowed". It's getting so that a very few vocal people are going to run everyone out of business by over regulating.
Char

Fairmont, WV

#31 Aug 18, 2009
The laws are there to protect the people and the people who are using the "freedom" argument are just ignorant.

Using their logic, people could just pick and choose which laws, if any, to obey and if caught breaking one, well just use the argument that well I should have the freedom to do as I please.

We are going to be speaking with the Prosecuting Attorney's Office to find out when they are going to slap Audrey's with an injunction.

Let's see them fight that!
Willie Makeit

Mchenry, IL

#32 Aug 18, 2009
Char wrote:
The laws are there to protect the people and the people who are using the "freedom" argument are just ignorant.
Using their logic, people could just pick and choose which laws, if any, to obey and if caught breaking one, well just use the argument that well I should have the freedom to do as I please.
We are going to be speaking with the Prosecuting Attorney's Office to find out when they are going to slap Audrey's with an injunction.
Let's see them fight that!
You and those with you will never be allowed inside audrey's again. They do still have a choice on who they allow to enter and who they will not allow to enter. Just have the gut,s to let them know who you are.

“Veritas Vincit. Pro Libertate”

Since: Jun 08

peoples republic of Madison

#33 Aug 18, 2009
Char wrote:
The laws are there to protect the people and the people who are using the "freedom" argument are just ignorant.
Using their logic, people could just pick and choose which laws, if any, to obey and if caught breaking one, well just use the argument that well I should have the freedom to do as I please.
We are going to be speaking with the Prosecuting Attorney's Office to find out when they are going to slap Audrey's with an injunction.
Let's see them fight that!
You don't have a clue about freedom or rights, but what can one expect from a socialist.
Edd

Barnesville, OH

#34 Oct 2, 2009
Justined said it all!! The only trouble is that the anti-smoking clic doesn't want the public to know it!
Check out OSHA and NIOSH to see the REAL test results of second hand smoke.

Please let the OWNERS decide if they waant to be smpke-free or not. That's where who should really be deciding. If there is such a demand for smoke-free there should be new businesses opening up left and right.
mazed

Elizabethtown, KY

#35 Oct 3, 2009
Has it ever occurred to you that this whole "make some smoke-free places" approach is bass-ackward?

SMOKING:
1)damages people and things around the smoker
2)is a frivolous behavior
3)generates toxic debris in tidy little bundles that readily blow or wash their way into the water supply
4)is a habit shared by 15%-30% of the population, depending on location in the US

REFRAINING FROM SMOKING:
1)causes nicotine withdrawals
2)is a matter of course for 70%-85% of the population, depending on location in the US

How does it make sense that we are creating--with so much opposition--islands where smoking is NOT permitted?

The default should clearly be "no smoking" and some places could be set aside where the addiction can be indulged. There is no way a nonsmoker should have to deal with facefuls of smoke just to go from a store to the library on a public sidewalk.

As to the chronological progression of requests from nonsmokers, I'd guess you just have to go slow when dealing with tens of millions of addicts who have a century or three of momentum behind their false sense of entitlement.
mazed

Elizabethtown, KY

#36 Oct 3, 2009
Aloxety wrote:
<quoted text>You'd think that if a case were there for the remaining 1,319,998 (only two of the successful cases involved deaths), there'd be lawyers all over it.
You might, if you were ignorant of epidemiology and of the fact that the Master Settlement gave the tobacco companies immunity from civil suits regarding their activities up to 1997 or 1998, can't recall exactly.

Then, too, you would have to assume that everyone was prepared to take all the flack that would come their way in taking on an entity with the size and power of the tobacco industry.
Fun in topica

Bruceton Mills, WV

#37 Sep 30, 2012
I'm a smoker and honestly this law doesn't effect me because I don't smoke in buildings or public places because thats just rude to everyone else. No smoker is losing freedom it's just sad that a law like this ha to be passed because some people just don't understand common curtosy.
Frisbee

Renton, WA

#38 Oct 3, 2012
Justined wrote:
ANTI-smokers' historic statements:
All we really want are flights under 2 hours to be smokefree (sic)
All we really want are separate sections in restaurants (sic)
All we really want is public buildings that we must enter to be smokefree (sic)
All we really want are restaurants to be smokefree (sic)
All we really want is every place the public is INVITED to enter to be smokefree (sic)
All we really want is smokers to stand far enough away from the buildings when they smoke, so we don't have to walk through it (sic)
All we really want is parks, beaches, outdoor public areas to be smokefree (sic)
All we really want is for smokers to not smoke in cars with children under ?? years of age (sic)
All we really want is no smoking allowed in homes that have connecting walls (sic)
All we really want is..........
HATE......It's Legal Again!
Smoker's historic statements:

All we really want is to poison our fellow citizens.
Frisbee

Renton, WA

#39 Oct 3, 2012
Edd wrote:
If you don't like the smoker friendly atmosphere you have the FREEDOM to leave, just as a private business owner should have the FREEDOM to post a sign stating "smoking allowed". It's getting so that a very few vocal people are going to run everyone out of business by over regulating.
Should they also have the 'freedom' to post a sign stating "white's only"?

You open your business to the PUBLIC, you have to cater to the PUBLIC. You don't get to just serve the people you want to.
Your delusions of Freedom advocate YOU doing whatever you please without regard for the harm it does to others. That isn't Freedom, that isn't Libertarian, it's selfishness.
Frisbee

Renton, WA

#40 Oct 3, 2012
Free_America wrote:
You don't have a clue about freedom or rights, but what can one expect from a socialist.
There you go using words you don't understand again.

Tell us how not being able to poison people means that the government has seized the means of production.
Well Now

Elkins, WV

#41 Oct 3, 2012
They are still smoking in the bars! Kanawha lounge, whistle stop, are just 2 of them. Also running the tip jars is supposed to be illegal, But they get by with that too. I Think the Moose also runs the tip jars.

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