is a Christmas Tree a Holiday Tree? Merry Christmas?

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misticosombrero

Cedartown, GA

#1 Nov 23, 2012
this used NOT to be a debate.

throwing it out now just to listen to the politically correct try to explain why Christmas shouldn't be celebrated as Christmas....and why a Christmas tree should be called a 'Holiday' tree.
Bill Ding

Irving, TX

#2 Nov 23, 2012
It's what you want it to be. It's your living room.
OBAMA12

Temple, GA

#3 Nov 23, 2012
The issue is not "Christmas " or "holiday", its your own home and its your choice..
The real issue is we need to use manufactured trees instead of cutting down live ones!! That's the problem! We will cut down a nice tree
And use it for a few weeks and then throw it away!! HOW WASTEFUL !!!!
Bill Ding

Irving, TX

#4 Nov 23, 2012
OBAMA12 wrote:
The issue is not "Christmas " or "holiday", its your own home and its your choice..
The real issue is we need to use manufactured trees instead of cutting down live ones!! That's the problem! We will cut down a nice tree
And use it for a few weeks and then throw it away!! HOW WASTEFUL !!!!
It does seem wasteful but most Christmas trees are grown on farms specifically for this purpose.

“Get off my lawn”

Since: Jul 10

Bremen, GA

#5 Nov 23, 2012
It's still wasteful, and that land could be used for food production. It can be a Christmas tree, a Kwanzaa tree, a Hannukah tree, a Holiday tree, a Saturnalia tree, whatever you want it to be -- it's your tree, in your living room.

Why is this an issue?
OBAMA12

Temple, GA

#6 Nov 23, 2012
Yeah I guess your right, kinda like raising pigs for
Bacon.. I just hate to see waste. I got a
Pre-lit. Tree that I have been using for several
Years. I guess when i think of trees getting cut down I think about all the Forrest that is destroyed
By logging companies.
Bill Ding

Irving, TX

#7 Nov 23, 2012
wobbler1957 wrote:
It's still wasteful, and that land could be used for food production.
Not true. Not all land is capable of growing food.

“Get off my lawn”

Since: Jul 10

Bremen, GA

#8 Nov 23, 2012
Depends on what you grow. But if you can grow pine trees on it, you can grow at least an acid-loving crop on it. Blueberries would do well there.

You can also amend just about any soil to make it bear. This is something I know about, right down to my bones. Long family history of farming in Georgia red clay and Florida sand.
OBAMA12

Temple, GA

#9 Nov 23, 2012
Bill Ding wrote:
<quoted text>Not true. Not all land is capable of growing food.
If its fertile enough to grow trees it could grow
Food....

Since: Jul 10

Decatur, GA

#10 Nov 24, 2012
Buying a live Christmas tree is not wasteful. Most live trees sold at nurseries, Wal-Mart, Target, Ingles, Home Depot, or the Christmas tree lot on the corner of the road, run by a local Boy Scout troop, come from a Christmas tree farm, where acres upon acres of firs, spruces, cedars, pines, or cypresses are grown and harvested specifically for the Christmas season. It's no different than having a farm growing acres and acres of corn, lettuce, cauliflower, potatoes, or any other vegetable meant for human or animal consumption.

Also, buying a live tree is not totally wasteful. You can rent a wood chipper and mulch it up, along with any brush you might have lying around, and use the mulch in your landscaping projects, or let the neighbors have at it. Most trash collection agencies will pick up the live trees, and mulch them back at their own landfills. People will go in and get a truckload of mulch for free, or ask for one delivered for a fee, to use on their landscaping projects.

I always loved having a live tree in the house. It smells up the entire house and reminds you that it's definitely Christmas. We don't do Christmas trees (or any Christmas decorations for that matter) because my dad's asthma would act up from the live tree, and when we tried a fake tree, we had a Siamese cat that kept knocking it down. After putting it back up three times on the same day, it came down, went back into the box, and never saw the light of day until we got ready to move, and donated it to some nearby nursing home.

Since: Aug 11

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#11 Nov 24, 2012
wobbler1957 wrote:
It's still wasteful, and that land could be used for food production. It can be a Christmas tree, a Kwanzaa tree, a Hannukah tree, a Holiday tree, a Saturnalia tree, whatever you want it to be -- it's your tree, in your living room.
Why is this an issue?
Now this is laughable, Wobbler. Tell us just how profitable a small, let's just say, 5 acre family farm would be? After the "farmer" (that this country has taken such good care of) goes out and buys his tractors and implements and pays for all of his diesel fuel (which is so cheap these days), along with whatever else he may need. Do you think it would be worth his effort to go from a Christmas tree crop, to a food crop? As sad as it seems, I think not.

“Get off my lawn”

Since: Jul 10

Bremen, GA

#12 Nov 24, 2012
Shows how much you know about farming, mater head.

With appropriate farming practices, a family can indeed raise enough food to feed themselves on 5 acres -- vegetables, chickens, pigs and maybe a calf.

My family did it for years.

I said nothing about profitability, nor did I specify any acreage. That said, 5 acres, managed properly, can do a lot. Do you have any idea just how big 5 acres is?

I invite you to look up

http://extension.oregonstate.edu/catalog/pdf/...

and go to page 5. Those figures are per acre. A 5 acre farm can be pretty financially productive.

“Get off my lawn”

Since: Jul 10

Bremen, GA

#13 Nov 24, 2012
Case in point -- I raise enough snap beans, corn, tomatoes, peppers and crowder peas on just a few hundred square feet to feed my family of 3 for a year. A solid *year*. My house sits on your standard 1/4 acre lot.

If it was a half acre, I'd be raising a feeder calf, which you can get from a dairy in the spring for about $50, then slaughter it in the fall at roughly 8 or 9 months. Then I wouldn't have to buy beef for a year.

Don't try to teach your grandma to suck eggs, boy.

“it is what it is”

Since: Sep 12

tallapoosa

#14 Nov 24, 2012
my family comes from nc, and many of them raise ornamental and christmas trees as their only source of income,they do well..as far as waste is concerned,the u.s wastes more food than is measurable..look in the eyes of a child,that tree wasn't wasted....plus its a renewable source...l8tr

Since: Aug 11

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#15 Nov 24, 2012
speakin of facts wrote:
my family comes from nc, and many of them raise ornamental and christmas trees as their only source of income,they do well..as far as waste is concerned,the u.s wastes more food than is measurable..look in the eyes of a child,that tree wasn't wasted....plus its a renewable source...l8tr
My point exactly. Now, if they converted their tree farms and grew blueberries, as wobbler suggested, would they still be able to support themselves, in your opinion?

“it is what it is”

Since: Sep 12

tallapoosa

#16 Nov 24, 2012
over the years the crops changed, in the very early 70s they raised tomatoes,later in the 70s to early 80s it was sweet potatoes,then around 83 they planted trees. they supply,home depot, pike and many nurseries. less work,less cost,more profit,simple...they also have row crops for their personal use and the local grown market,but again,the labor involved to commercially produce tomatoes vs cedar trees for profit per acre? the tree is way cheaper therefore more profit....l8tr

“Get off my lawn”

Since: Jul 10

Bremen, GA

#17 Nov 24, 2012
Exactly. You grow what's profitable. I imagine if trees stop being profitable and something else was a better cash crop, they'd change again.

mater, quit trying to speak to something you keep proving you know less than nothing about.

I personally don't care what people grow on their land; it's just my opinion that growing Christmas trees is a waste and I wouldn't do it. If I had a lot of land, like a couple hundred acres, I'd grow pulpwood.
OBAMA12

Thomaston, GA

#18 Nov 24, 2012
mater head wrote:
<quoted text> Now this is laughable, Wobbler. Tell us just how profitable a small, let's just say, 5 acre family farm would be? After the "farmer" (that this country has taken such good care of) goes out and buys his tractors and implements and pays for all of his diesel fuel (which is so cheap these days), along with whatever else he may need. Do you think it would be worth his effort to go from a Christmas tree crop, to a food crop? As sad as it seems, I
think not.
That really shows your intelligence mater, I think growing food and feeding a family is far more important than raising trees! not to mention you can use a manufactured tree year after year.. Your such a egg-head. Haha just keep wasting your money year after year on a tree you have to throw away.
OBAMA12

Thomaston, GA

#19 Nov 24, 2012
If I had a couple hundred acres I'd fence it in and raise goats, and grow tomatoes, and feed them "'mater heads".

Since: Aug 11

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#20 Nov 24, 2012
wobbler1957 wrote:
Exactly. You grow what's profitable. I imagine if trees stop being profitable and something else was a better cash crop, they'd change again.
mater, quit trying to speak to something you keep proving you know less than nothing about.
I personally don't care what people grow on their land; it's just my opinion that growing Christmas trees is a waste and I wouldn't do it. If I had a lot of land, like a couple hundred acres, I'd grow pulpwood.
Wobbler, you're full of it.

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