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abc

Wichita, KS

#1 Jan 6, 2009
http://www.dailybreeze.com/ci_11381164

Any information is greatly appreciated. This little boy is assumed to be missing for 10 years. If he is alive, he would be 21 years old now. His adoptive parents never reported him missing, but say he ran away when he was 11 and never came back.

It is extremely suspicious.

Since: Dec 08

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#2 Jan 6, 2009
I believe they kiled him. Why would you not report him missing? Especially when he did not return after a few days.
Cynbenet

Miami, FL

#3 Jan 6, 2009
The parents were NOT arrested?? Hold up, their 11 year old disappears and they make no police report but they do NOT get arrested? Wow.
Cynbenet

Miami, FL

#4 Jan 6, 2009
Doesn't this story sound familiar? Remember Rilya Wilson who disappeared but wasn't reported until nearly 2 years later?? The same thing happened in that case, the caregivers were NOT charged until later on when additional information was revealed. It should be a crime to not report your child missing, shouldn't it??
abc

Wichita, KS

#5 Jan 7, 2009
The investigation is continuing...here's an interview with the adopotive mother.

http://www.kansas.com/news/story/654039.html

These folks will be going to jail, even if it is never proven that the boy is dead and they are connected. They fraudently continued to collect adoption subsidy payments ($700 / month) until the kid was 18. That's almost $60,000.

I do think that they are responsible for his disappearence and hopefully it will come out in the investigation.

Since: Dec 08

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#6 Jan 7, 2009
No loving parent would not call the police if their child was missing. I don't care what these old bats say, they killed that child.
Cynbenet

Miami, FL

#7 Jan 7, 2009
What??? Still collecting money in his name and STILL didn't get arrested?? You're kidding me right?? Isn't that itself a crime?? Well he was a cute little boy, I don't see why they adopted him then decided to destroy such beauty and goodness.
Cynbenet

Miami, FL

#8 Jan 7, 2009
abc wrote:
The investigation is continuing...here's an interview with the adopotive mother.
http://www.kansas.com/news/story/654039.html
This article is very sad to read :(

Relatives said he was abused then the idiots LIED to relatives. I don't care how "old" she is...put her OLD a$$ in jail!
Cynbenet

Miami, FL

#9 Jan 7, 2009
Here's an article I found about his biological family:

Tiffany Broadfoot and Irvin Groeninger II said the news that Adam Herrman, who's birth name is Irvin Groeninger III, was reported missing after nearly a decade has left them confused, devastated and wanting answers.

"I have a lot of questions and very few answers," said Tiffany Broadfoot, Adam's biological sister.

Just weeks ago, Broadfoot's biological father in Indiana called with news she never expected to hear. He told her that her younger brother, who was adopted by a different family years earlier, hadn't been seen in nearly a decade.

"My dad went on to say he's been missing since '99 and it was just reported around December 5th," said Broadfoot.

Broadfoot and her brother Adam, along with their other siblings, were placed in foster care after their parents' divorce. Eventually, they were adopted by different families. Broadfoot said she tried to keep in touch with Adam but his adoptive family told her they didn't want Adam to know he was adopted and asked that she not contact him. She never imagined he might be missing.

"How did anybody not know he was missing?" she wonders. "Why didn't his friends say something? Why didn't the schools say something?"

Last week, investigators began searching the Pine Ridge mobile home park in Towanda where Adam's adoptive family lived and where he was last seen. Officials have now asked Broadfoot, her father and mother Gerri George in Colorado, for DNA samples.

"When I was first told he was missing, I was figuring he was 20 or 21 years-old... an adult. I wouldn't figure that he'd be missing, then they told me he was missing for 9 years and I didn't know what to think," said Irvin Groeninger II, Adam's biological father.

Investigators said last week that they did find one answer to their questions in the mobile home park, but Sheriff Craig Murphy won't elaborate.

"I cry a lot. It's very upsetting," said Broadfoot.

Broadfoot said her dream of having her brothers and sisters together again is crashing around her and now she and her family just want answers.

"Whatever happens, just that justice gets served," said Groeninger.

"I need to know what happened," said Broadfoot.
Cynbenet

Miami, FL

#10 Jan 7, 2009
What I don't understand is why exactly were the kids placed in foster care. This article says it happened after their parents divorced. That's not a reason to put kids in foster care. Alot of parents are not together but they still have custody of their kids.
Cynbenet

Miami, FL

#11 Jan 7, 2009
Another heart touching article http://www.ksn.com/news/local/37072739.html
def

Wichita, KS

#12 Jan 7, 2009
Cynbenet wrote:
What I don't understand is why exactly were the kids placed in foster care. This article says it happened after their parents divorced. That's not a reason to put kids in foster care. Alot of parents are not together but they still have custody of their kids.
I read somewhere that the bio mother had custody and the bio father had given up parental rights. The kids were ultimately taken away from the mother because of abuse and placed in foster care.

From the frying pan into the fire.

Since: Dec 08

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#13 Jan 7, 2009
def wrote:
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I read somewhere that the bio mother had custody and the bio father had given up parental rights. The kids were ultimately taken away from the mother because of abuse and placed in foster care.
From the frying pan into the fire.
I hate people who prey on innocent children. The "system" is at fault here also. If they saw the need to remove one child they should have removed ALL the children.
Cynbenet

Miami, FL

#14 Jan 7, 2009
I am me-deal with it wrote:
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I hate people who prey on innocent children. The "system" is at fault here also. If they saw the need to remove one child they should have removed ALL the children.
I think all kids were removed from the biological parents. I don't see why the father didn't get custody after the kids were taken from the mother. What is really wrong with people?? Where is his real mother now?? I'm still doing research on the case..
Uh---- Yea

Las Vegas, NV

#15 Jan 9, 2009
These adoptive parents are full of it. How do all of these relatives give stories if it never occured? Are they lying?? Oh, just like the school district lied?? Hmmm.... all of these people lying about poor ole Valerie. This boy never ran away. She murdered him plain and simple. As far as I'm concerned she deserves nothing short of the death penalty.
MANEE

Hermosa Beach, CA

#16 Jan 10, 2009
Where is Adam ?? The law should allow full name changes #@$^&*.. I would never give up one of my kids no matter what especially if he is named after me..

Since: Dec 08

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#17 Jan 10, 2009
Cynbenet wrote:
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I think all kids were removed from the biological parents. I don't see why the father didn't get custody after the kids were taken from the mother. What is really wrong with people?? Where is his real mother now?? I'm still doing research on the case..
No, in the story the adoptive mother said that one of his sisters were removed from her home. If they took one then they should have taken all the kids.
Rob

AOL

#18 Jan 11, 2009
Adam was placed in foster care. That implies a family court placement and that involves some kind of social work agency being involved as well. Where in the Hell were the caseworker and the court advocate/guardian?

Someone mentioned the local school system. What were the principal and school counselor doing?

And then I do believe that the local PD or Sheriff's department is not blameless either. One day a 10 year old arrives at the trailer park and sometime later goes missing. The neighbors didn't report Adam's sudden disappearance, then long-term absence. I don't buy this for one moment. Too many checks and balances went by the boards if you believe the official story so far.

“A Million Little Fibers”

Since: Dec 08

Deltona

#19 Jan 11, 2009
Rob wrote:
Adam was placed in foster care. That implies a family court placement and that involves some kind of social work agency being involved as well. Where in the Hell were the caseworker and the court advocate/guardian?
Someone mentioned the local school system. What were the principal and school counselor doing?
And then I do believe that the local PD or Sheriff's department is not blameless either. One day a 10 year old arrives at the trailer park and sometime later goes missing. The neighbors didn't report Adam's sudden disappearance, then long-term absence. I don't buy this for one moment. Too many checks and balances went by the boards if you believe the official story so far.
That was the case with Rilya Wilson, the caseworker dropping the ball and not checking up on her at all for years and fudging the records for it.

The problem with case workers, not just in Florida, everywhere, is they are over worked and understaffed. I am a foster parent and I can not even begin to tell you how many people we have seen come and go in DCF. We have had to do the case workers job for her as far as finding info or finding 'MOM' in general. And if that means calling her dealer, we've had to do it.

We finally got fed up with the case worker constantly telling us to ask the lawyer for the state certain questions (you generally don't have contact with the lawyer, that is what the guardian adlittem(sp) is for), or having her blow us off altogether when we asked for small, basic information about certain things and she would get huffy and say, I don't know. We weren't the only ones who called her boss to complain.

We even had to call her a few times to remind her that she needed to come out for an inspection.

It's just the amount of children they have to see everyday, on top of the new cases they get everyday, there is going to be mistakes. It is sadly up to the caregivers at times to make sure things happen correctly.

After an adoption happens generally the case workers step aside at that point, however, if there was a history with this boy after the adoption happened though he probably would have had a worker who was supposed to be checking on him to make sure he was adjusting better and getting help for any issues he had. If there was a worker involved I would like to hear the excuse for the past 10 years.
Rob

AOL

#20 Jan 12, 2009
Cara your experience is helpful. What you are saying is that these folks in authority have a duty to check on the child's welfare and a making excuses for not holding state legislators to accountability for not budgeting enough funds and providing enough manpower to get the job done as state law--the very rules they put in place that must be followed.

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