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Oh my

Blairsville, GA

#17615 Jul 8, 2013
Bigdave1 wrote:
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http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
Your post is similar to my post #17541 but I would never battle terrorist as criminals. They are fighting a war. I see them similar to the VietCong, although they are fighting for religious control as well ass political control. I don't understand why you would use the term alleged terrorist either. Don't you really think that there are actual real terrorist out there trying to kill us and anybody that gets in the way of their ideology?
No, Al-Qaeda are NOT similar to the Viet Cong...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viet_Cong
The Viet Cong, or National Liberation Front, was a political organization and army in South Vietnam and Cambodia that fought the United States and South Vietnamese governments during the Vietnam War (1959–1975), and emerged on the winning side. It had both guerrilla and regular army units, as well as a network of cadres who organized peasants in the territory it controlled. Many soldiers were recruited in South Vietnam, but others were attached to the People's Army of Vietnam (PAVN), the regular North Vietnamese army. During the war, communists and anti-war spokesmen insisted the Viet Cong was an insurgency indigenous to the South, while the U.S. and South Vietnamese governments portrayed the group as a tool of Hanoi. Although the terminology distinguishes northerners from the southerners, communist forces were under a single command structure set up in 1958.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qaeda
Al-Qaeda is a global militant Islamist organization founded by Osama bin Laden in Peshawar, Pakistan,[19] at some point between August 1988[20] and late 1989,[21] with its origins being traceable to the Soviet War in Afghanistan.[22] It operates as a network comprising both a multinational, stateless army[23] and a radical Sunni Muslim movement calling for global Jihad and a strict interpretation of sharia law.
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"I don't understand why you would use the term alleged terrorist either."

Without investigation and intelligence how do you tell the difference between real terrorists and innocent by-standers.

It would appear that many believe there is such a distinction, how else can drone strikes kill innocent people?
it aint

Adel, GA

#17616 Jul 8, 2013
Who wrote:
<quoted text>
You are using a socialists organization as a reference?? ROFL.
A man of the world are you?? ROFL.
Well now, I am Who and I rate socialist medicine poor as compared to American medical care. And I don't need to quote imaginary friends to support my opinion.
Too bad you think so little of your opinion that you need to create friends to try and bolster a sorry position.
Imaginary friends, wrong king of all morons. You won't believe the World Health Origination or many other studies rating the health care of this nation as a whole way down the list of developed countries. What do you base your opinions on, exactly what studies rate this nations medical care against other nations as anywhere near the top?? Give us a place to look to verify you opinion. The friends are real people with real stories, plus I have been to France, Italy and talked to the people who live in those countries and they are very happy to be where they are.
They have just as much freedom as we do and they much prefer the health care system they have to what they know of ours. If you are in the upper 5% of the rich in American I can agree with you, if you are in the 95% you are dead wrong and have NO proof to back up what you say. We were planning to move to Costa Rica before the Bush depression and we lost way to much money to even consider that again. That small country does a better job with health care
at a lower cost than the U.S., they also have a lower cost of living. They now have a very large population of American's as a result.

Keep you head in the sand and you will never know the difference, that's what the political leaders of your party count on. Its also
what the medical profession wants, ever notice its always FNC bashing ObamaCare in the waiting rooms.

Ever wonder why you can buy the same drugs across the border in Canada much cheaper than in the U.S. Ever wonder why the largest
construction projects other than the Baptists are local doctors
building huge new offices, as ObamaCare goes into affect!!!!
I doubt that you have.

I know you won't respond with ANY facts, just more blind bullshite!
All coming from a person that calls itself who, like that's something special. If you were the rock band I could agree, but you are just some old person who has lived its life as a sheep and has been lead around for so long thinks that's the norm, it ain't.
BS IS Called

Dallas, TX

#17617 Jul 8, 2013
Oh my wrote:
<quoted text>
No, Al-Qaeda are NOT similar to the Viet Cong...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viet_Cong
The Viet Cong, or National Liberation Front, was a political organization and army in South Vietnam and Cambodia that fought the United States and South Vietnamese governments during the Vietnam War (1959–1975), and emerged on the winning side. It had both guerrilla and regular army units, as well as a network of cadres who organized peasants in the territory it controlled. Many soldiers were recruited in South Vietnam, but others were attached to the People's Army of Vietnam (PAVN), the regular North Vietnamese army. During the war, communists and anti-war spokesmen insisted the Viet Cong was an insurgency indigenous to the South, while the U.S. and South Vietnamese governments portrayed the group as a tool of Hanoi. Although the terminology distinguishes northerners from the southerners, communist forces were under a single command structure set up in 1958.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qaeda
Al-Qaeda is a global militant Islamist organization founded by Osama bin Laden in Peshawar, Pakistan,[19] at some point between August 1988[20] and late 1989,[21] with its origins being traceable to the Soviet War in Afghanistan.[22] It operates as a network comprising both a multinational, stateless army[23] and a radical Sunni Muslim movement calling for global Jihad and a strict interpretation of sharia law.
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"I don't understand why you would use the term alleged terrorist either."
Without investigation and intelligence how do you tell the difference between real terrorists and innocent by-standers.
It would appear that many believe there is such a distinction, how else can drone strikes kill innocent people?
Innocent bystander? No such thing.
corrected

Adel, GA

#17618 Jul 8, 2013
Who wrote:
<quoted text>
It comes from an inept congress who have let Presidents get away with encroaching upon their sworn duties as representatives of the people.
It's as if our elected reps have decided they prefer a dictator over doing their duties.
Wrong o king of morons!! Its not what they prefer, its what the voting public prefers. Congress does nothing and blames someone else for all the problems. Then they go home and promise they are going to do exactly what the voters want. Then they go back to Congress and do nothing, and blame someone else again. And the cycle continues, they tell you want you want to hear. They know you are wrong and they can't do what they promise, they have no intention of doing anything. The spoiled baby boomers in American will have to die off before anything changes. Then the young people and new immigrants will get it corrected.
Who

Dahlonega, GA

#17619 Jul 8, 2013
it aint wrote:
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I know you won't respond with ANY facts, just more blind bullshite!
All coming from a person that calls itself who, like that's something special. If you were the rock band I could agree, but you are just some old person who has lived its life as a sheep and has been lead around for so long thinks that's the norm, it ain't.

Oh name changer with many faces, Are you Eve?
Which one are you? The one who wants a baby sitter? A nannie? or does your diaper need changing?

Post # 17570
Obamacare;

Socialist’s medicine. When many European countries are considering ways to cut services and cost at the expense of patients.

The worldwide recession has forced countries around the world to curb public spending — or risk defaulting on their debt.
“The United Kingdom is the latest to tighten its belt. The National Health Service (NHS)— the centralized public agency that runs Britain’s government healthcare system — is being forced to shave $31 billion from its budget by 2015.

In order to realize some savings, the NHS is raising the threshold at which patients qualify for treatment and lengthening wait times for surgeries determined “non-lifesaving.” The Service is also cutting more than 20,000 NHS jobs over the next two years and shuttering a number of hospitals.
Patients are feeling the pain. For decades, they’ve turned over substantial portions of their hard-earned paychecks as taxes — and accepted “free”
health care from the government in return. Only about 11 percent of Britons pay for their care privately.
They’ve foregone cutting-edge medical treatments available in the United States, told by their leaders that these new therapies were no better than the old ones — just more expensive. At least in Britain, they thought, everyone has access to basic health care. That has to be better than the situation in America, where tens of millions of people lack health insurance, right?

Hardly. The British healthcare system may “guarantee” access to care — but that doesn’t mean patients actually receive it.”

http://www.forbes.com/sites/sallypipes/2011/1...

“The Canadian supreme court struck down two Quebec laws, overturning a 30-year ban on private medicine in the province. The wording of the ruling, though, has implications beyond Quebec, and could be used to scrap other major parts of Canada's federal health care legislation.”

“What would drive the bench to such a profound ruling? Chief Justice Beverley McLachlin and Justice John Major wrote: "The evidence in this case shows that delays in the public health care system are widespread, and that, in some serious cases, patients die as a result of waiting lists for public health care."”

http://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/_week...

Why would anyone want socialized medicine when those countries who have it, have become so burdened by government bureaucracy and dysfunction and not enough tax monies to provide basic care? Also many of those countries are looking into changing their healthcare laws (which means more will be dependent on their own in finding ways to get medical care.)
Government as baby sitter, nannie, and diaper changer will be forced to change their ways, as economies can no longer sustain the monies needed for socialism.

Again, which one are you?
Who

Dahlonega, GA

#17620 Jul 8, 2013
corrected wrote:
<quoted text>
Wrong o king of morons!! Its not what they prefer, its what the voting public prefers. Congress does nothing and blames someone else for all the problems. Then they go home and promise they are going to do exactly what the voters want. Then they go back to Congress and do nothing, and blame someone else again. And the cycle continues, they tell you want you want to hear. They know you are wrong and they can't do what they promise, they have no intention of doing anything. The spoiled baby boomers in American will have to die off before anything changes. Then the young people and new immigrants will get it corrected.
When you are able to connect with reality and able to determine the purpose and direction of a post, let us know. Otherwise your post here makes no sense, is disconnected from the subject matter being discussed, and would make no sense to any drug induced poster anyway.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#17621 Jul 8, 2013
@ Informed Opinion

I feel as though I am in need of a reality check, I was catching up on the last 12 hours and find myself agreeing with the vast majority of the content of your posts.
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I am against Obamacare because I believe it will cripple our healthcare system and balloon our deficit while still leaving 30 million uninsured (by CBO numbers). But I would like to reverse a great argument you made - if you do not trust the government to not misuse all the data they are collecting, how can you trust that same government to run a nationalized healthcare system that will also have your most personal medical information at the touch of a button?
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I still think it is crazy to call Obama a right winger and TR a conservative.
OMTE

Rimersburg, PA

#17622 Jul 8, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
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It's OK with me to increase the national debt $30 Billion to put more guards on the border - if we throw those who employee illegals in prison.
The former will make it harder for Pedro to cross the Rio Grande, or Petr from crossing in from Canada; the latter will make them not want to bother.
Just sayin....
That's what I was sayin too. We have some of the toughest immigration laws in the country, in Ga. They are not enforced though. Most business' around here employ illegal criminal immigrants and local law enforcement turns a blind eye. All the new laws in the world will useless, if they're not enforced. 40% of illegal immigrants didn't cross the border illegally. They came here on a visa, overstayed their visa, and disappeared. While 5000 I.C.E. agents total nationwide are given the task to roundup all illegal immigrants once past our borders. This bill in the house calls for no more I.C.E. agents and they are the only ones that actually ENFORCE our immigration laws. This bill in the House should not even be addressed until more I.C.E. agents are in it. Immigration is not the main reason Border Security is must. National Security is the #1 reason we should have a secure border. We travel space. Securing a border in 6 months should be walk in the park. Ya think?

Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#17624 Jul 8, 2013
OMTE wrote:
This was a pretty good informative video clip. That pretty much explains the ups and downs of the amnesty bill that Reagan signed into law in '86.
The same moron Chuck Schumer had a hand in that failed attempt to stop illegal immigration, as well as, being an author of this amnesty bill that's currently in the House now. Why is he even allowed to be apart of anything to do with immigration. He's a dummy. He is the reason the number of illegal criminal aliens have more than tripled since '86. Duh??? The american people shouldn't allow the government to make the same empty promises as they did last time. That should prove themselves to the american people, that they can secure our border and enforce the laws that are already in effect. Then talk about immigration reform. http://abcnews.go.com/ABC_Univision/Politics/...
Amen

Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#17626 Jul 8, 2013
Oh my wrote:
<quoted text>
CONFLICT IN THE BALKANS: THE OVERVIEW; NATO AUTHORIZES BOMB STRIKES; PRIMAKOV, IN AIR, SKIPS U.S. VISIT
By JANE PERLEZ
Published: March 24, 1999
http://www.nytimes.com/1999/03/24/world/confl...
NATO today authorized air strikes against Serbia as President Clinton declared that force was necessary to halt the aggression by Serbs against ethnic Albanians in Kosovo.
The air campaign, using primarily American aircraft and cruise missiles, is poised to begin over southern Serbia and targets in Kosovo under cover of night Wednesday, NATO officials said.
It would come almost a year after the conflict in Kosovo began and more than six months after NATO, backed by the Clinton Administration, first threatened the use of force.
...More than 40 members of Congress met with President Clinton at the White House this morning, and after hearing his arguments for intervention, rallied around him. The Senate voted tonight 58 to 41 in support of a one-sentence resolution authorizing President Clinton to carry out bombing and missile attacks.
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Both Iraq and Afghanistan fall under this Congressional Resolution which has not been repealed...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authorization_fo...
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Two different opinons on the need for authorization in Libya...
http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2011-06-15...
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/21/opinion/21A...
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Can you point to where US troops are involved inany action in Syria.
Congress approves anything that the elite wants. They do not have the guts to actually declare war. We have and we are now actively sending the so called Syrian Rebels weapons. We know that much is a fact. I have a good hunch that there are some special forces along with CIA helping them. Don't you? Do I have secret documents showing all of this? No. It is the normal military plan that is used over and over though.
Oh my

Blairsville, GA

#17628 Jul 8, 2013
Bigdave1 wrote:
<quoted text>
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
Congress approves anything that the elite wants. They do not have the guts to actually declare war. We have and we are now actively sending the so called Syrian Rebels weapons.
Course you claimed something entirely different...

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
It is odd that we were at war in Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya, and are involved in Afghanistan and Syria all without the consent of Congress.

Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#17630 Jul 8, 2013
Oh my wrote:
<quoted text>
No, Al-Qaeda are NOT similar to the Viet Cong...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viet_Cong
The Viet Cong, or National Liberation Front, was a political organization and army in South Vietnam and Cambodia that fought the United States and South Vietnamese governments during the Vietnam War (1959–1975), and emerged on the winning side. It had both guerrilla and regular army units, as well as a network of cadres who organized peasants in the territory it controlled. Many soldiers were recruited in South Vietnam, but others were attached to the People's Army of Vietnam (PAVN), the regular North Vietnamese army. During the war, communists and anti-war spokesmen insisted the Viet Cong was an insurgency indigenous to the South, while the U.S. and South Vietnamese governments portrayed the group as a tool of Hanoi. Although the terminology distinguishes northerners from the southerners, communist forces were under a single command structure set up in 1958.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qaeda
Al-Qaeda is a global militant Islamist organization founded by Osama bin Laden in Peshawar, Pakistan,[19] at some point between August 1988[20] and late 1989,[21] with its origins being traceable to the Soviet War in Afghanistan.[22] It operates as a network comprising both a multinational, stateless army[23] and a radical Sunni Muslim movement calling for global Jihad and a strict interpretation of sharia law.
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"I don't understand why you would use the term alleged terrorist either."
Without investigation and intelligence how do you tell the difference between real terrorists and innocent by-standers.
It would appear that many believe there is such a distinction, how else can drone strikes kill innocent people?
Lady you need to get a life. You were not there and you don't know sh*t.
The Viet Cong wore no uniforms. They were made up mostly from Vietnamese population. Many of the terrorist techniques were being used by the Viet Cong. They wrote the book. Yes, the Viet Cong was a tool of Hanoi, the same as the terrorist are tools of Iran. The V.C. seemed to operate seperate from the NVA in most actions.
Keep reading and posting your hi-brow literature maybe it will impress someone.

Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#17631 Jul 8, 2013
Oh my wrote:
<quoted text>
Course you claimed something entirely different...
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
It is odd that we were at war in Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya, and are involved in Afghanistan and Syria all without the consent of Congress.
Congress never declared war. I think all Congress does is approve money for these various illegal operations.
Oh my

Blairsville, GA

#17633 Jul 8, 2013
Bigdave1 wrote:
<quoted text>
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
Lady you need to get a life. You were not there and you don't know sh*t.
The Viet Cong wore no uniforms. They were made up mostly from Vietnamese population. Many of the terrorist techniques were being used by the Viet Cong. They wrote the book. Yes, the Viet Cong was a tool of Hanoi, the same as the terrorist are tools of Iran. The V.C. seemed to operate seperate from the NVA in most actions.
Keep reading and posting your hi-brow literature maybe it will impress someone.
Just pointing out your misconceptions, but hey, who can trust history since so few of us were really there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viet_Cong
...It had both guerrilla and regular army units, as well as a network of cadres who organized peasants in the territory it controlled. Many soldiers were recruited in South Vietnam, but others were attached to the People's Army of Vietnam (PAVN), the regular North Vietnamese army.

http://www.pbs.org/battlefieldvietnam/guerril...
...Main force Vietcong units were uniformed, full-time soldiers, and were used to launch large scale offensives over a wide area. Regional forces were also full-time, but operated only within their own districts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_terr...
Oh boy, looks like terrorist techniques have been around for a long time
Oh my

Blairsville, GA

#17634 Jul 8, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
<quoted text>
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
And since you mentioned the source, they are hardly unbiased:
Is this your new standard for ALL source material you post?

As far as your objections are concerned, people can read the report and judge for themselves the meaning of the pie chart. Do I expect this to convince anyone opposed to Obamacare, nope, but so what.
James

Blue Ridge, GA

#17635 Jul 8, 2013
Why is it so hard for people to realize there has to ba a better way of providing some form of health care to uninsured people that truly can't afford it. I'm not saying by any means Obama care, as it is currently written is the perfect solution to our problems. We have been stuck in so many ruts in this country that contine to only cause us to fall behind the rest of the wold in almost every way. We waist enormous sums of money and resources over the years on polices and wars that are fought for reasons we know not to be the reasons we are told. Our war on drugs is a complete failler and by some estimated cost us a total of nearly a trillion dollars a year. Our education system is nearly as bad and our health care system is falling behind the rest of the world as well. I believe if pumped money into education and health the way we have wars and bad government all these years we would still be the greatest country on earth today. How can we get back to the top ? We all have different opinions of what it will take, this is mine
Opinion Poll

Dahlonega, GA

#17636 Jul 8, 2013
State your opinion about Obama Care(even though it doesn't count.)

Write your Senators and Representatives(even though they pay no attention.)

Tell your spouse how you feel(even though he/she may tell you to go soak your head.)

Tell your neighbor(even though he/she may slam the door in your face.)

Tell your kids(even though they may call you an old fogy( even if you are only 31.))

And finally tell your Priest/Preacher(even though the Priest will tell you to do 3 Hail Marys, and the Preacher will ask you to repair the bathroom in the men's room.)
Opinion Poll

Dahlonega, GA

#17637 Jul 8, 2013
Opinions are only good to make us feel better about ourselves. Self therapy if you like.

I feel good about my opinion on opinions.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#17638 Jul 8, 2013
James wrote:
Why is it so hard for people to realize there has to ba a better way of providing some form of health care to uninsured people that truly can't afford it. I'm not saying by any means Obama care, as it is currently written is the perfect solution to our problems. We have been stuck in so many ruts in this country that contine to only cause us to fall behind the rest of the wold in almost every way. We waist enormous sums of money and resources over the years on polices and wars that are fought for reasons we know not to be the reasons we are told. Our war on drugs is a complete failler and by some estimated cost us a total of nearly a trillion dollars a year. Our education system is nearly as bad and our health care system is falling behind the rest of the world as well. I believe if pumped money into education and health the way we have wars and bad government all these years we would still be the greatest country on earth today. How can we get back to the top ? We all have different opinions of what it will take, this is mine
In regard to healthcare, I don't think anyone would argue with you that our system was far from perfect and that insurance companies could be a bureaucratic minefield. But there were reasonable changes that could have been made that would not have required such a complete transformation (and IMO crippling) of what was still the best healthcare available. Simply allowing insurance companies to compete across state lines in order to increase competition and lower prices would have been huge. Torte reform to lessen the "defensive medicine" that doctors - especially emergency room doctors- practice would also be huge. No one is advocating for those truly harmed by negligent physicians to not be able to sue, but the virtual lottery system that civil lawyers have made out of medical malpractice is criminal. Creation of a pool of the uninsured that insurance companies would have to take a portion of would have been reasonable. I don't think many would have had a problem even potentially subsidizing such a pool. But Obamacare was not and is not the answer, it only will create a whole host of new problems.
The Heritage Foundation, e a conservative think tank, posted an interesting article today. Regardless of their political bent, facts are facts, as they lay out.
http://blog.heritage.org/2013/07/08/morning-b...

In regard to education, this country spends more than most countries per student already and fails miserably. And the blame can be laid at teachers' unions and a blotted bureaucracy. Throwing more money after bad is not the answer. Tax money following the student (rather than the student following the tax money) to whatever school the parents choose is my answer.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#17639 Jul 8, 2013
Oh my wrote:
<quoted text>
Is this your new standard for ALL source material you post?
No, but when:
1. A Democratic website has the following headline"Center For American Progress Launching Big War Room To Drive Obama Agenda" and
2. When CAP was created and is led by the Obama 2008 presidential transition team head John Podesta, I think it is reasonable to question how they slant their statistics.

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