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Since: Nov 12

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#16338 Jun 24, 2013
Oh my wrote:
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Geez, you cherry pick definitions like you cherry pick quotes.
It is man's understanding of God and Its nature that changes, thus the continued effort to study and re-evaluate man's understanding of God's relationship to the universe. If everything were as fixed as you you portray why has human history shown us moving from animism, to polytheism, to monotheism, was it because God's nature and relationship to the universe changed, or did man's understanding of the universe change nessitating a change in how God is viewed. Theology reflects man's study, man's understanding, so of course it is going to be continuely changing.
Here is a definition to ponder...
conservative
Adjective
Holding to traditional attitudes and values and cautious about change or innovation, typically in politics or religion.
Noun
A person who is averse to change and holds to traditional values and attitudes, typically in politics.
"May we please drop this. It is pointless."
Sure, don't respond.
I would LOVE to quit responding, but when you post things which have nothing to do with the original argument in order to try and "prove" your point......
Nor do I cherry pick definitions or quotes, you supplied the additional definitions (which completely supported my point), I took the relevant phrases out to contrast them with Cone's definition - that was also supplied and - I have given you the source of the quotes I used -A Black Theology of Liberation (for the fourth time.)

We were not "discussing" the development of various theologies, which is what you just posted about. We were talking about Christian Theology vs Black Liberation Theology. ANOTHER poster than myself (one on YOUR side of the political fence) asked someone to name "any" minister that wasn't pro Republican, I responded Jeremiah Wright. That same poster then asserted that Jeremiah Wright was hardly "mainstream." I agreed and stated that Jeremiah Wright was actually an adherent of Black Liberation Theology.

You responded "thanking" God that I could "tell us who the True Christians are". The argument has always been is BLT accepted as "mainstream" Christian doctrine by Christian Theologians. The answer continues to be "NO" - and Cone gives his definition what he considers to be the irrefutable high ground by saying : you cannot use a "white definition" to argue against his definition -(post 16173). He thus destroys his own argument by stating that definitions are relative.

You now once again try to change the subject by posting definitions of "conservative" in some lame attempt to try and bolster your position that you have continually not been able to support.
I will repeat: Try Again.

But I would really prefer you didn't - you have yet to support your position and no one else is interested. If you really want to continue - send me a message and we can continue this "off thread" to your heart's content.
Oh my

Blairsville, GA

#16339 Jun 24, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
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http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
I would LOVE to quit responding, but when you post things which have nothing to do with the original argument in order to try and "prove" your point......
Nor do I cherry pick definitions or quotes, you supplied the additional definitions (which completely supported my point), I took the relevant phrases out to contrast them with Cone's definition - that was also supplied and - I have given you the source of the quotes I used -A Black Theology of Liberation (for the fourth time.)
We were not "discussing" the development of various theologies, which is what you just posted about. We were talking about Christian Theology vs Black Liberation Theology. ANOTHER poster than myself (one on YOUR side of the political fence) asked someone to name "any" minister that wasn't pro Republican, I responded Jeremiah Wright. That same poster then asserted that Jeremiah Wright was hardly "mainstream." I agreed and stated that Jeremiah Wright was actually an adherent of Black Liberation Theology.
You responded "thanking" God that I could "tell us who the True Christians are". The argument has always been is BLT accepted as "mainstream" Christian doctrine by Christian Theologians. The answer continues to be "NO" - and Cone gives his definition what he considers to be the irrefutable high ground by saying : you cannot use a "white definition" to argue against his definition -(post 16173). He thus destroys his own argument by stating that definitions are relative.
You now once again try to change the subject by posting definitions of "conservative" in some lame attempt to try and bolster your position that you have continually not been able to support.
I will repeat: Try Again.
But I would really prefer you didn't - you have yet to support your position and no one else is interested. If you really want to continue - send me a message and we can continue this "off thread" to your heart's content.
Actually it's the same discussion that always comes up, you feel that you are in a position to say who is a Christian and who is not. Whether you call it mainstream, true christians, or Christian Theologians, it all comes out the same. Hell, you even claimed that the conservative Episcopalian Bishops of Africa are closest to the truth than their liberal American cousins - who are probably Democrats.

You bring up the definition of Theology, which clearly states that it's the study of God, and ignore who is doing the studying - man, confusing the subject of study with the act. You claim that man's changing understanding of the universe has no contexual significance is such study because the subject of the study is unchanging, yet Theology is how Man views God, not how God views God.

You are the epitome of what Cone is describing and you find that offensive, and while you may think that pondering the definition of a conservative is an attempt to change the subject, in reality it goes right to the heart of this subject.

You have the power to end this discussion any time you want.

Since: Nov 12

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#16341 Jun 24, 2013
Oh my wrote:
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Actually it's the same discussion that always comes up, you feel that you are in a position to say who is a Christian and who is not. Whether you call it mainstream, true christians, or Christian Theologians, it all comes out the same. Hell, you even claimed that the conservative Episcopalian Bishops of Africa are closest to the truth than their liberal American cousins - who are probably Democrats.
You bring up the definition of Theology, which clearly states that it's the study of God, and ignore who is doing the studying - man, confusing the subject of study with the act. You claim that man's changing understanding of the universe has no contexual significance is such study because the subject of the study is unchanging, yet Theology is how Man views God, not how God views God.
You are the epitome of what Cone is describing and you find that offensive, and while you may think that pondering the definition of a conservative is an attempt to change the subject, in reality it goes right to the heart of this subject.
You have the power to end this discussion any time you want.
Done!
OMTE

Douglas, GA

#16342 Jun 24, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
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Great post.(And from cranky me !)
Just some random thoughts from the revolutionary breakfast gang.
The average folks in Central America hate CAFTA. The multinationals wanted cheaper, nonunion labor, and to pollute and destroy the environment,(privatize privatize profits and externalize costs).
Their way of life and culture was overthrown to use their cheap labor, and now - in the race to the bottom - the jobs are being moved to Indonesia and China.
The average folks in Mexico hate NAFTA.
The multinationals wanted cheaper, nonunion labor, and to pollute and destroy the environment,(privatize privatize profits and externalize costs). Their way of life and culture was overthrown to use their cheap labor, and now - in the race to the bottom - the jobs are being moved to Indonesia and China.
America decimated Haiti's entire agriculture industry by forcing Haiti to import government subsidized American grain and rice.
We needed somewhere to dump our surpluses created by subsidizing American agribusiness.
Unregulated capitalism is nobody's friend - no matter how "touchy-geeky" those Halliburton ads are. Just as American corporations charged $5.00 a bottle to provide our troops bottled water with fecal material included,(at no extra charge), it always aims to screw the common man.
Socialism without capitalism always fails because laziness and avarice are ever-present human traits, and we are always willing to let others carry our water, to varying degrees, and then nobody will carry the water at all.
But hey... A "Mixed Economy" always provides great French Toast.
You're a pretty smart dude. Great post. A+++
jeb stuart

Cordele, GA

#16345 Jun 24, 2013
OMTE wrote:
<quoted text>You're a pretty smart dude. Great post. A+++
Don't worry OMTE, I think that I can get those icons changed ;)))
jeb stuart

Cordele, GA

#16346 Jun 24, 2013
jeb stuart wrote:
<quoted text>Don't worry OMTE, I think that I can get those icons changed ;)))
may take a little while though- y'know it ain't easy bein' me !!
OMTE

Douglas, GA

#16347 Jun 24, 2013
jeb stuart wrote:
<quoted text>Don't worry OMTE, I think that I can get those icons changed ;)))
Come On Jeb. Do you really think I care what anyone thinks about me? Really??? ;)
jeb stuart

Cordele, GA

#16348 Jun 24, 2013
OMTE wrote:
<quoted text>Come On Jeb. Do you really think I care what anyone thinks about me? Really??? ;)
jus kiddin', bud.
jeb stuart

Cordele, GA

#16349 Jun 24, 2013
OMTE wrote:
<quoted text>Come On Jeb. Do you really think I care what anyone thinks about me? Really??? ;)
personally, I do wish that he would lay the union stuff a little bit, but that is just MHO.

Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#16351 Jun 24, 2013
There is little doubt in my mind that kill the messenger tactic is in full mode. The government and the news media want everyone to forget about the original story of the NSA spying on everyone and is putting Snowden as the main story. Switch and bait. Whether Snowden is a traitor or not I am not sure. If all the information that I heard that he has so far released is all he has really done, then maybe not. Most of everything that we have heard has already been leaked here and there for several years now. It is the American publics fault for not keeping up with what is going on. What he has done since his initial press release and what information he might have released to China, Russia, or other countries is still unknown.
If he is not just a frightened whistle blower then he is a traitor. Although he did alert the American public to the fact that they were being spied on constantly by our government he may very well be giving actual U.S.secrets to our enemies. If he is giving secrets to other people these acts would make him a traitor.
Still no reason to conveniently forget what started the whole story. It was American Citizens being spied on.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world...
jeb stuart

Cordele, GA

#16352 Jun 24, 2013
jeb stuart wrote:
<quoted text>jus kiddin', bud.
But, then again, it could just be that the very word 'union' has negative connotations to an old Rebel like myself :)
jeb stuart

Cordele, GA

#16353 Jun 24, 2013
Bigdave1 wrote:
There is little doubt in my mind that kill the messenger tactic is in full mode. The government and the news media want everyone to forget about the original story of the NSA spying on everyone and is putting Snowden as the main story. Switch and bait. Whether Snowden is a traitor or not I am not sure. If all the information that I heard that he has so far released is all he has really done, then maybe not. Most of everything that we have heard has already been leaked here and there for several years now. It is the American publics fault for not keeping up with what is going on. What he has done since his initial press release and what information he might have released to China, Russia, or other countries is still unknown.
If he is not just a frightened whistle blower then he is a traitor. Although he did alert the American public to the fact that they were being spied on constantly by our government he may very well be giving actual U.S.secrets to our enemies. If he is giving secrets to other people these acts would make him a traitor.
Still no reason to conveniently forget what started the whole story. It was American Citizens being spied on.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world...
good grief, Dave. You do know that the Chinese has been stealing secrets from us for years- maybe decades(via the internet). And now we should be worried to death about it ? Just because some jackass spills a few beans. Come on, Dave.
OMTE

Douglas, GA

#16355 Jun 24, 2013
jeb stuart wrote:
<quoted text>But, then again, it could just be that the very word 'union' has negative connotations to an old Rebel like myself :)
I've always been a Ga Bulldog fan myself, but that's just me *winkin* LoL.
jeb stuart

Cordele, GA

#16356 Jun 24, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
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Done!
dammit Ag, looks like I ain't got nobody left to pick on but you ! And I would join in on your debate but there are three things that I can not remember- names, dates....dammit, I forgot the other one.
billybob

Hiawassee, GA

#16357 Jun 24, 2013
Bigdave1 wrote:
I swear that this Snowden thing is beginning to look like it is set up to take the wind out of the sails of the investigations of all the Obama Administration scandals. Nothing is being said about us being spied on. Nothing about the IRS. Nothing about the AP investigation. Nothing about Benghazi or fast and furious from the news media. Nothing being said about Syria. Here watch this hand and pay no attention to what the other hand is doing.
No kidding, Snowden is a real news story, that's the reason. The so called Obama scandals are only scandals on whacko TV & radio. Now even they actually have something of substance and consequence to talk about.

Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#16358 Jun 24, 2013
jeb stuart wrote:
<quoted text>good grief, Dave. You do know that the Chinese has been stealing secrets from us for years- maybe decades(via the internet). And now we should be worried to death about it ? Just because some jackass spills a few beans. Come on, Dave.
The main meaning of my post is that the media is trying to change the story from the government spying on us to Snowden. Of course everyone knows that China and Russia has been spying on us forever. The another part of my post considered that he is a traitor giving away some real actual secrets which other countries have not been able to get a hold of. Has he done this? I don't know.
You have no more idea than I do just how much information that he has and just what secret programs that he might be carrying. So don't give the jackass spills a few beans routine. It could be extremely serious. You don't know.

Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#16359 Jun 24, 2013
billybob wrote:
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No kidding, Snowden is a real news story, that's the reason. The so called Obama scandals are only scandals on whacko TV & radio. Now even they actually have something of substance and consequence to talk about.
billybob, you need to quit drinking so much of your moonshine.
Who

Broken Arrow, OK

#16360 Jun 24, 2013
Obamacare::

The government’s revamped website, healthcare.gov , features sleeker graphics than its prior iteration and features a “Start Now” button that guides users through the law’s benefits. There is a Spanish-language version of the site, at www.cuidadodesalud.gov , and the government’s call center will accommodate 150 languages through interpretation services, HHS said.


150 languages????

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

Since: Nov 08

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#16361 Jun 24, 2013
I spoke with a Nursing student today and I was telling her that she chose well in regard to her profession because there will always be a need for nurses. She corrected me. She said that Obamacare has totally changed the job prospects. Right now, the patieint to nurse ratio is 3 or 4 to 1. She said with Obamacare, the patient to nurse ratio will be 9 to 1. She also said that the college curriculum now requires a course on the Affordable Care Act. She was pretty depressed about it because she is so far into her major. She is totally AGAINST Obamacare. She said it's painting a grim picture for our country.
I just listened because I ALREADY KNOW THAT.

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

Since: Nov 08

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#16362 Jun 24, 2013
Bigdave1 wrote:
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billybob, you need to quit drinking so much of your moonshine.
Remember: He is an Obamabot from the planet Libroid.

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