Since: Jul 10

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#1337 Nov 17, 2012
JustSayin wrote:
Millions of people have health insurance who didn't,
Because of Obamacare Millions of people are now out of work and the ones that still have a Job are paying more for insurance with higher deductables to cover for Obamacare.
I dunt know

Whittier, CA

#1338 Nov 17, 2012
American Bulldog wrote:
<quoted text>
Because of Obamacare Millions of people are now out of work and the ones that still have a Job are paying more for insurance with higher deductables to cover for Obamacare.
I'll bet you know what goober means.

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#1339 Nov 17, 2012
JustSayin wrote:
Not bad for a president who has had a Republican Congress REFUSE to do any single thing that's good for the country because they don't like the current president.
Again he had the House and Senate from 2008 to 2010. The senate under Harry Reid has not passed a budget in three years. Ya think that it matters if we have a budget?
Hogwash

Douglasville, GA

#1340 Nov 18, 2012
American Bulldog wrote:
<quoted text>
You may want to do some research there sparky. The dow is tanking.
http://www.thestreet.com/story/11768651/1/sto...
When G. W. Bush took office, the DOW was 10587.59. On the last day of his term, it was down to 7949.09. When Obama took office, the DOW was 7949.09. At closing on November 16th, 2012 it was at 12588.31.

You might want to pull your head out of your ass. How's that for research ..SPARKY...
American Bulldog wrote:
<quoted text>
Unemployment was less than 5% when Harry and Nancy took over in 2007 Bush's last year. Where is it now? Today we have the most People on Food Stamps in the history of the United States.
In January 2009 when Obama took office unemployment was at 7.9%. Last month, October 2012, Unemployment was at 7.8 %.

January 1, 2001 - Clinton handed Bush unemployment numbers of 4.2%. Bush ended - again - with 7.9%, a 3.7% increase. Bush had steady jobs losses his last year of presidency.

FACT: There was a 63% increase of Food Stamps under the Bush Administration. In fact under BUSH the USDA engaged in a multi-million dollar advertising campaign to increase food stamp usage. That coupled with the GREATEST ECONOMIC DOWNTURN since the 1930's, which also happened during the BUSH administration - it's no surprise that food stamp recipients are up.
American Bulldog wrote:
<quoted text>
So is Libyan Ambassador Christopher Stevens and four others. The Muslim Brotherhood that the Obama adminstration backed is now attacking Israel.
Obama didn't kill Stevens. Pissed off radical Islamic terrorists did. Things like that happen in that part of the world. As tragic as it is, it beats 3000 people dying in the heart of New York city like what happened under Bush's watch.

Nobody is thrilled with the Muslin Brotherhood in Egypt. If it was our country, it probably wouldn't be who we'd choose to have running things. It's not.
American Bulldog wrote:
<quoted text>
Because of Obamacare Millions of people are now out of work and the ones that still have a Job are paying more for insurance with higher deductables to cover for Obamacare.
Now you're just making up your numbers right out of the clear blue sky.
American Bulldog wrote:
<quoted text>
Again he had the House and Senate from 2008 to 2010. The senate under Harry Reid has not passed a budget in three years. Ya think that it matters if we have a budget?
House Republicans voted overwhelmingly to reject the presidential budget in 2012. Just like they voted overwhelmingly against EVERYTHING other than big-money, big-energy. Do a little reading - your comment on this subject drips of somebody parroting what they heard on Faux News rather than actual fact.

We get it. You're a die-hard Republican supporter and you'd hate and oppose Obama even if he engineered Universal Galactic Peace, healed all diseases, and put a pallet of gold bars in everyones garage. We get that.

But try not to spew garbage information, twisted until the truth ran screaming from it, and utter disinformation.
str8 dude

Alpharetta, GA

#1341 Nov 18, 2012
I dunt know wrote:
<quoted text>
I'll bet you know what goober means.
bet u know what a goldstar 175 chutney farmer means since u r 1.
Help Desk

Bremen, GA

#1342 Nov 18, 2012
American Bulldog wrote:
<quoted text>
Because of Obamacare Millions of people are now out of work and the ones that still have a Job are paying more for insurance with higher deductables to cover for Obamacare.
This comment is such a startling example of an American conditioned by the Medical-Industrial Complex I had to repost my earlier comment:

"It's impossible to have a true national dialog about healthcare reform in the USA because Americans have been brainwashed for a century by opponents of healthcare reform beginning when President Teddy Roosevelt took up the cause of reform.

Modern conditioning against healthcare reform began in 1946 when a PR firm was hired to demonize the term "socialized medicine," a term that had been used without negative connotations since President TR himself used it. This PR firm infused the term with Cold War fear that was beaten into every American head. By the 1960's LP records had been distributed to Americans that featured the voice of Ronald Reagan scaring the hell out of listeners with tales of Soviet-style healthcare.

In the 1990's countries as diverse as Taiwan, Israel and Switzerland all created public healthcare systems that work for their citizens. Taiwan is the most interesting of these because they looked the world over for what worked and what didn't. They began with a clean slate and looked at ALL the options, something that Americans CAN'T do because we have been effectively brainwashed for a century and are unable to really look at effective options. Taiwan currently only spends a fraction of what the USA does on its healthcare.

Switzerland deserves a look as well because when the Swiss had a referendum in the 1990's on healthcare reform the vote was almost evenly split with only a small majority favoring reform. Today almost no one in that country says they prefer pre-reform healthcare.

Maybe Bible-thumping Southerners should take a look at healthcare in the Promised Land of Israel. Could it be that God's Choice of a Healthcare System is a Universal One?:)

The result of a century of American brainwashing around the subject of healthcare is the flawed "ObamaCare," the genesis of which was a conservative think tank reform embraced by George Bush Sr and other prominent Republicans in the late 1980's. We all know that Romney's proudest achievement as governor is "RomneyCare", an achievement he sadly couldn't talk about. His official portrait the hangs in the Mass capitol evidences this clearly.

So those of you who aren't happy with ObamaCare, well, you can only blame the selfish interests of the Medical-Industrial Complex for not allowing us a better alternative. And those of you who oppose any reform at all or think the Magic Fairy Dust of the "Free Market" is going to make everything happy and good, well, you are simply deluded."
Mustard biscuits

Dalton, GA

#1343 Nov 18, 2012
WhereOhWhere wrote:
We need new blood in the U.S. Senate. A 'NO' man won't get anything done, and and new man may as well be an Independent so he might vote his conscience.
yeap
Aggie

Cartersville, GA

#1345 Nov 18, 2012
@Hogwash
Obama has not submitted a budget, he submitted budget proposals in 2011 and 2012 - there is a difference. Neither one received any support and were voted down unanimously by Republicans AND Democrats. Harry Reid should be the one ultimately held responsible for failing to do his job as Senate Majority Leader and getting a budget passed. He has done nothing. Paul Ryan actually submitted a budget in 2011, it was voted down with not one Democrat voting for it. But as a result of Reid's failures, there have been continuing resolution after continuing resolution passed to keep the government running - not a responsible way to govern. The last time the Senate passed a budget was April of 2009.

As far as Obamacare, based on the administration's own numbers, they can point to over $27 billion worth of new regulations coming down the pike. There are over 20 new taxes as a result of Obamacare. The Medical Device Tax alone is resulting in companies laying off workers. One example: Welch Allyn announced they would be laying off 10% of their workforce as a direct result of the Medical Device Tax. Again, that is just one of over 20 new taxes.

The information we currently have on Benghazi leads one to the reasonable conclusion that despite requests for more security, the consulate was left under protected in order to fit a false image the administration wanted to project.
It is known for a fact they requested additional security and those requests were denied. We have reports that help was denied the night of the attack. We know the story Susan Rice told on 5 different morning shows was false - the question to be answered is who told her to tell that lie.

Trying to make a comparison to 9/11 is completely without merit.

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#1346 Nov 18, 2012
Aggie wrote:
@Hogwash
Obama has not submitted a budget, he submitted budget proposals in 2011 and 2012 - there is a difference. Neither one received any support and were voted down unanimously by Republicans AND Democrats. Harry Reid should be the one ultimately held responsible for failing to do his job as Senate Majority Leader and getting a budget passed. He has done nothing. Paul Ryan actually submitted a budget in 2011, it was voted down with not one Democrat voting for it. But as a result of Reid's failures, there have been continuing resolution after continuing resolution passed to keep the government running - not a responsible way to govern. The last time the Senate passed a budget was April of 2009.
As far as Obamacare, based on the administration's own numbers, they can point to over $27 billion worth of new regulations coming down the pike. There are over 20 new taxes as a result of Obamacare. The Medical Device Tax alone is resulting in companies laying off workers. One example: Welch Allyn announced they would be laying off 10% of their workforce as a direct result of the Medical Device Tax. Again, that is just one of over 20 new taxes.
The information we currently have on Benghazi leads one to the reasonable conclusion that despite requests for more security, the consulate was left under protected in order to fit a false image the administration wanted to project.
It is known for a fact they requested additional security and those requests were denied. We have reports that help was denied the night of the attack. We know the story Susan Rice told on 5 different morning shows was false - the question to be answered is who told her to tell that lie.
Trying to make a comparison to 9/11 is completely without merit.
You're confusing the clueless and uneducated with facts. Some might consider that not fair...
Libertarian Dillweed

Douglasville, GA

#1347 Nov 18, 2012
The Budget and Accounting Act of 1921 indicates that a budget must be submitted each year by the President. That budget is fleshed out by the Office of Management and Budget. He's Done this. In fact, you can see his 2013 budget online right now. Enjoy your reading...

The Congressional Budget Act of 1974 requires Congress to pass and work out a budget. They can just let the presidents fly right though..(yeah..right!).. or they can work out their own.
Republican obstructionism in the 212th Congress has basically made this an impossibility. You want a budget? Get rid of your Tea Party congressmen.

Getting a budget passed is a messy affair. People try to tack things on, they use procedural elements to black basic movement, different majority numbers are required for certain things. Given the nature of the 212th Congress, it's no surprise that there's been no progress. If this didn't make sense, you should read more on the Congressional Budget Process.

To repeatedly say "Obama didn't pass a budget" is just cheap political talk intended to rile-up the uninformed.
Libertarian Dillweed

Douglasville, GA

#1348 Nov 18, 2012
Bill in Dville wrote:
<quoted text>
You're confusing the clueless and uneducated with facts. Some might consider that not fair...
Ah ... our expected quote from the Arrogant and Idiotic.
Aggie

Cartersville, GA

#1349 Nov 18, 2012
Bill in Dville wrote:
<quoted text>
You're confusing the clueless and uneducated with facts. Some might consider that not fair...
LOL
Libertarian Dillweed

Douglasville, GA

#1350 Nov 18, 2012
Aggie wrote:
@Hogwash
The Medical Device Tax alone is resulting in companies laying off workers. One example: Welch Allyn announced they would be laying off 10% of their workforce as a direct result of the Medical Device Tax. Again, that is just one of over 20 new taxes.
The Medical Device Tax is a 2.3% tax on, well, manufacturers of Medical Devices. Obviously a pretty small number on a very lucrative business. It's something that can be easily absorbed. As you would expect however, Medical device manufacturers like Welch Allyn would prefer that somebody else other than they got taxed. Talk has been made of offsetting the Medical Device Tax by reducing Corporate Welfare to the big-oil companies, a compromise that could surely be agreed to. Again not unsurprisingly, Republicans don't like the sound of that.

Welch Allyn is a private company so its financials are not available. It's plans to cut its labor force are part of a strategic move to position its business, not a direct response to the Medical Device Tax. From Business Week from BEFORE THE ELECTION:

" Sep 11 12

Welch Allyn, Inc. announced that it plans to cut 275 jobs, or about 10% of its worldwide workforce, including 45 workers at its headquarters in Skaneateles Falls. The cuts are part of the medical device maker's plans to reshape its business in the wake of turmoil in the U.S. market and to expand into emerging global markets."

However - if you look at their website - they are seeking quite a few positions for new employees.

http://www.welchallyn.com/careers/default.htm
another cheap talker

Alpharetta, GA

#1351 Nov 18, 2012
Libertarian Dillweed wrote:
The Budget and Accounting Act of 1921 indicates that a budget must be submitted each year by the President. That budget is fleshed out by the Office of Management and Budget. He's Done this. In fact, you can see his 2013 budget online right now. Enjoy your reading...
The Congressional Budget Act of 1974 requires Congress to pass and work out a budget. They can just let the presidents fly right though..(yeah..right!).. or they can work out their own.
Republican obstructionism in the 212th Congress has basically made this an impossibility. You want a budget? Get rid of your Tea Party congressmen.
Getting a budget passed is a messy affair. People try to tack things on, they use procedural elements to black basic movement, different majority numbers are required for certain things. Given the nature of the 212th Congress, it's no surprise that there's been no progress. If this didn't make sense, you should read more on the Congressional Budget Process.
To repeatedly say "Obama didn't pass a budget" is just cheap political talk intended to rile-up the uninformed.
Nobama didn't pass a budget.
Aggie

Cartersville, GA

#1352 Nov 18, 2012
Libertarian Dillweed wrote:
The Budget and Accounting Act of 1921 indicates that a budget must be submitted each year by the President. That budget is fleshed out by the Office of Management and Budget. He's Done this. In fact, you can see his 2013 budget online right now. Enjoy your reading...
The Congressional Budget Act of 1974 requires Congress to pass and work out a budget. They can just let the presidents fly right though..(yeah..right!).. or they can work out their own.
Republican obstructionism in the 212th Congress has basically made this an impossibility. You want a budget? Get rid of your Tea Party congressmen.
Getting a budget passed is a messy affair. People try to tack things on, they use procedural elements to black basic movement, different majority numbers are required for certain things. Given the nature of the 212th Congress, it's no surprise that there's been no progress. If this didn't make sense, you should read more on the Congressional Budget Process.
To repeatedly say "Obama didn't pass a budget" is just cheap political talk intended to rile-up the uninformed.
Yes, as I said, the President submits a budget proposal, which is just a basic framework with in which the Congress is expected to work out an actual budget. And as you say, in theory it could just be voted on and passed. Well, his budget proposals of 2011 and 2012 were voted on and they both went down unanimously 414-0 and 97-0. Not one Dem voted for them. In 2010, the Dems still controlled both houses of Congress , no budget was passed.
Libertarian Dillweed

Douglasville, GA

#1353 Nov 18, 2012
Aggie wrote:
It is known for a fact they requested additional security and those requests were denied. We have reports that help was denied the night of the attack. We know the story Susan Rice told on 5 different morning shows was false - the question to be answered is who told her to tell that lie.
Trying to make a comparison to 9/11 is completely without merit.
Trying to turn Benghazi into something is without merit. Not everything that somebody requests int he government is approved. There's a lot going on and somebody made a decision - probably Hillary - and they got it wrong. It happens.

Here's the real reason Benghazi is trying to be turned into an "issue":

John McCain is about to become irrelevant. He's up against term limits on the Senate Armed Services Committee. All he will be eligible for is a position on the Indian Affairs Committee - not exactly glamorous. Now he's actively and loudly recommending that a new committee investigating Benghazi be formed, with him at the lead - which will give him a new burst of relevance. Essentially he's trying to create an issue so he can create a new job for himself.

Which explains why he was so angry when he missed a Benghazi briefing so that he could hold a press conference to complain about not being briefed enough on Benghazi. It looked like pure ineptitude on his part.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-34222_162-5755068...

Again- feel free to soak up the sound-bites and spin from Faux News while being completely in the dark as to what is really going on.
Libertarian Dillweed

Douglasville, GA

#1354 Nov 18, 2012
another cheap talker wrote:
<quoted text>
Nobama didn't pass a budget.
It's not his JOB TO PASS A BUDGET!!!

GOT IT??
Aggie

Cartersville, GA

#1355 Nov 18, 2012
Libertarian Dillweed wrote:
I went to the site, you might be interested to know that when I clicked on the link for manufacturing/operations jobs, the following came up:

"There are currently no open positions matching this category or location."
Libertarian Dillweed

Douglasville, GA

#1356 Nov 18, 2012
Aggie wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, as I said, the President submits a budget proposal, which is just a basic framework with in which the Congress is expected to work out an actual budget. And as you say, in theory it could just be voted on and passed. Well, his budget proposals of 2011 and 2012 were voted on and they both went down unanimously 414-0 and 97-0. Not one Dem voted for them. In 2010, the Dems still controlled both houses of Congress , no budget was passed.
I think that you're informed enough to know that there is some background and there are some reasons why those votes turned out the way they did. It's not nearly as "damning" as just stating that nobody voted for them made things look. There is a lot of political wrangling and deal-making going on. There were other proposals on the table for one thing...
Libertarian Dillweed

Douglasville, GA

#1357 Nov 18, 2012
Aggie wrote:
<quoted text>
I went to the site, you might be interested to know that when I clicked on the link for manufacturing/operations jobs, the following came up:
"There are currently no open positions matching this category or location."
Look around - there are hundreds of jobs on there.

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