“Marble Man”

Since: Jul 11

Drake Town, GA

#33545 Dec 23, 2013
Bill in Dville wrote:
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What percentage of it do you think he/she understands? 40%? 50%?
No comprehension of embedded (or is it imbedded?) taxes, eliminating tax returns, the off shore cash that could return and be re-invested in this country?
I guess reading the book is too much effort...
Less.

“Marble Man”

Since: Jul 11

Drake Town, GA

#33546 Dec 23, 2013
there wrote:
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U R correct, the website tells me all I want to know about that lunacy theory that you so believe in. I have a bridge in the desert for sale and I know you are the right buyer.......
A cold day in hell b-4 that Socialist tax will pass..........
Some of the bridges in the desert are actually very well engineered, very valuable, and in their own way very cost efficient.
there

Toccoa, GA

#33547 Dec 23, 2013
You boys just get dumber and dumber with every post..........

A regressive tax is a regressive tax, plain and simple....


"Bruce Bartlett, a former Treasury Department official, says the prebate does little to change the regressive nature of the tax, because people will spend their prebate and it will be taxed at the same 23 percent rate.

"Even with the rebate counted the way the Fair Tax supporters want it calculated — as a reduction in tax liability rather than an increase in income — there would be an enormous shift in the tax burden from the wealthy to those with lower middle incomes," Bartlett wrote in a story for the magazine Tax Notes."

"Enforcement is also a significant concern for the Fair Tax. The 23 percent tax rate supported by the Fair Tax proponents assumes that most people would pay the taxes they owe. Economists say that when sales taxes reach that level, the incentive for people to cheat rises. People will try to buy things off the books, and underground economies will develop. To compensate for tax evasion, the tax would have to be raised even higher, which would lead to more evasion. Abolishing the Internal Revenue Service would exacerbate this problem, said economist Dean Baker, co-director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research in Washington, D.C.

"At the end of this story, when you add in some state sales taxes, we could be close to 50 percent," Baker said."



there

Toccoa, GA

#33548 Dec 23, 2013
General Robert E Lee wrote:
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Some of the bridges in the desert are actually very well engineered, very valuable, and in their own way very cost efficient.

Go buy one General........just make sure you pay the 30% tax on it, wouldn't want you cheating the gubmint..........


Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#33549 Dec 23, 2013
General Robert E Lee wrote:
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Less.
I guess you're right.

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#33550 Dec 23, 2013
there wrote:
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U R correct, the website tells me all I want to know about that lunacy theory that you so believe in. I have a bridge in the desert for sale and I know you are the right buyer.......
A cold day in hell b-4 that Socialist tax will pass..........
So much for "last word"...

Still clueless and uneducated about the FairTax.
the truth

Clarkesville, GA

#33551 Dec 23, 2013
Bill in Dville wrote:
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"I would like your source on the percentage of income point, cause you are wrong again or using numbers after all the write offs and deductions that only the rich can use. That includes the ability to use the capital gains tax almost exclusively, the middle class can't do that."
Being that the amount of income tax paid is based upon taxable income, not gross earnings, it is appropriate to use write offs and deductions. BTW, capital gains calculation is separate and independent from the deductions and write offs you reference.
However, to say "only the rich can use" is a clueless and uneducated comment. One of wealth envy, too.
Another BTW, I know many middle class people that utilize capital gains treatment when filing tax returns.
"The fair tax is never going to happen, and if it did the resulting law would not be much different than todays system. "
Oh, so a tax system based on taxable income (which can be quite a quite complex calculation) wouldn't be much different that enacts a national sales tax. REALLY? You can't be serious, or you know EVEN LESS about the FairTax than what you profess.
You really should only post about things you know, not what you think you know. You're wrong. Nothing wrong with that, you just don't know it...
Only read to the part about uneducated and clueless, know what you are correct!!!

But I do know about income tax, I pay it. I also know about capital gains tax, I pay using that gift from the rich depending on what the investment is. I know that if I was rich enough I could pay almost all income tax using the capital gains tax loophole. I also know I pay a lesser percentage of tax than you do at McDonalds. I take advantage to all the tax write offs available, thanks to the business I have. Because of the business I am in my accountant takes advantage of what the very rich have put in place for themselves. Most middle class workers can't or the small amount of money that qualifies as capital gain is insignificant. From most of what you say my taxes must be a whole lot more complicated than yours, but that's no surprise now is it.
Then you wonder off on the fair tax ride, again the resulting legislation when the 1% get their way as they always do will result in very little if any difference. The fair tax is a fairytale, fairytales seldom if ever come true. To many people make a living with the current tax system, to many jobs to bet on the unknown. To many politicians are lawyers and get "donations" from the 1% who have no interest in the fair tax experiment. I know more about how things work in the real world than you ever will. I know you are an arrogant ass, even more clueless than the so called clueless and uneducated you love to put down. Education in todays world is not a e-ticket to success, just look at the current crop of billionaires, then look at fools like you.
the truth

Clarkesville, GA

#33552 Dec 23, 2013
General Robert E Lee wrote:
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Get ready for the largest transfer of personal wealth, to the government, in history.
The insurance companies that are underwriting the health care bill will sure be pissed to know the profits they are expecting are going to go to Obama!!

“Marble Man”

Since: Jul 11

Drake Town, GA

#33553 Dec 23, 2013
the truth wrote:
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The insurance companies that are underwriting the health care bill will sure be pissed to know the profits they are expecting are going to go to Obama!!
It goes deeper than that. Enough so that nobama will bail them out when they start to go belly up.
there

Toccoa, GA

#33554 Dec 24, 2013
Bill in Dville wrote:
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So much for "last word"...
Still clueless and uneducated about the FairTax.

Well there is the little problem of a couple of dummies who want to continue believing they are the only ones with answers about the SorryTax..........Still dumb and dumber........

“Marble Man”

Since: Jul 11

Drake Town, GA

#33555 Dec 24, 2013
there wrote:
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Go buy one General........just make sure you pay the 30% tax on it, wouldn't want you cheating the gubmint..........
Used goods, tax free.

“Marble Man”

Since: Jul 11

Drake Town, GA

#33556 Dec 24, 2013
there wrote:
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Well there is the little problem of a couple of dummies who want to continue believing they are the only ones with answers about the SorryTax..........Still dumb and dumber........
Your idea, the one about business paying all taxes, no individual tax liabilities. What is the number one reason you believe this might be a good system.
SantaClaus

Fortson, GA

#33557 Dec 24, 2013
I'm going to venture a guess that the ones who are going to continue this travesty of the neverending argument into the holiday, have no life, no family, and no friends.
there

Toccoa, GA

#33558 Dec 24, 2013
General Robert E Lee wrote:
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Your idea, the one about business paying all taxes, no individual tax liabilities. What is the number one reason you believe this might be a good system.

Because it worked before the gubmint got real greedy, and wanted more and more.
And what is your number one reason for everyone paying a 30% sales tax would be a good system.......
And dont forget to add the Georgia sales tax to the final bill..........


there

Toccoa, GA

#33559 Dec 24, 2013
General Robert E Lee wrote:
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Used goods, tax free.

Sorry General, it's not a used bridge, it's new.......

“Marble Man”

Since: Jul 11

Drake Town, GA

#33560 Dec 24, 2013
SantaClaus wrote:
I'm going to venture a guess that the ones who are going to continue this travesty of the neverending argument into the holiday, have no life, no family, and no friends.
pot, kettle, black.
Appomattox

Midland, GA

#33561 Dec 24, 2013
Robert E. Lee cowardly surrendered. It would have been better had the South been completely annialated than for people to live under the regieme of today.
there

Toccoa, GA

#33562 Dec 24, 2013
Is it the bad economy, obamacare, or just tired and weary taxpayers that is the reason for the slowdown..........


"According to the analytics firm, traffic for the week ended Dec. 22—which included the crucial final weekend before Christmas—was down 21.2 percent year over year. The first two weeks of December saw double-digit decreases, which trailed a 4 percent decline over Black Friday weekend, it said."


http://www.cnbc.com/id/101293199

SantaClaus

Fortson, GA

#33563 Dec 24, 2013
General Robert E Lee wrote:
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pot, kettle, black.
Really? Who is arguing politics on Christmas Eve? You want to argue about taxes? Take it to the kitchen. Go visit family and friends. Don;t be a douche and presume you know everything. Go help the homeless. Do something useful.
MrsSanta

Roswell, GA

#33564 Dec 24, 2013
SantaClaus wrote:
I'm going to venture a guess that the ones who are going to continue this travesty of the neverending argument into the holiday, have no life, no family, and no friends.
Would you get back in the barn and check Rudolph and Blitzen. We don't have time for you to lolly gag, they both have colds and you just may have to run by CRR and pick up a couple of stand-in's for later. Do I have to do everything???

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