now

Cornelia, GA

#32339 Nov 27, 2013
Talking about big issues or small issues, the Supremes can always be relied upon to give their 2 cents worth.....whether right or wrong, the Supremes demand their 2 cents worth be honored.....of course they expect others to abide by some of their silly decisions..........pay attention Ugly Eve, maybe you can find a big picture issue here.........


"Supreme Court Will Take Up New Health Law Dispute"


"The court will consider two cases. One involves Hobby Lobby Inc., an Oklahoma City-based arts and crafts chain with 13,000 full-time employees. Hobby Lobby won in the lower courts.

The other case is an appeal from Conestoga Wood Specialties Corp., a Pennsylvania company that employs 950 people in making wood cabinets. Lower courts rejected the company's claims."

So the Supremes take one winner and one loser and will decide if they can produce a Solomon decision.....

Ha-most likely they will produce another lengthy mumbo jumbo discourse of legalese..........


http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/...

now

Cornelia, GA

#32340 Nov 27, 2013

Wow-obamacare....uh excuse me, Obama now calls it ACA, will increase health coverage for roughly 20 million folks, says Obama.......

But-but-but...."Almost 80 million people with employer health plans could find their coverage canceled because they are not compliant with ObamaCare, several experts predicted."


Now that is what I call "killing the golden goose" in order to claim a legacy......

Obama, the creator of confusion, a bad economy, huge national debt, a deflated Diplomacy Corps, an usurper of the Constitution, a gay rightist, a proponent of killing babies, and a friend of the muslim brotherhood.....


Yep, the above definition will be in the dictionary under the word "Obamanese."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/11/26/ev...




now

Cornelia, GA

#32341 Nov 27, 2013

And lastly, for the libroids who consider big issues a small issue..........or versa vice.......


"Twenty-seven animals involved in making the first movie of the "Hobbit" trilogy died, it said, also listing incidents where a chipmunk was squashed, a husky dog was punched, and fish died in making "Pirates of the Caribbean"."


News flash--Obama is considering free healthcare for animals....rich animals to pay for poor animal care.......Ugly eve will love this, as he can make health claims on those animals he skins.....

http://news.yahoo.com/animal-rights-group-acc...








Oh my

Blairsville, GA

#32342 Nov 27, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
<quoted text>
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
Well, here's a little more "original intent" encapsulated in the Bill of Rights - limitations on the power of the federal government in order to protect the rights of the individual first and the states second. And one of the basics that you are missing is that it is not the majority that needs the protections the Constitution protects - it is the minority. That is why the Left is so intent on "fundamentally transforming" this country and deep sixing the Constitution.
Nope, didn't miss that at all, just pointing out that a method to change the Constitution was built into the Constitution, and to change the Constitution takes the agreement of a majority of the people who represent the electorate.

Well, there's been quite a few fundamental transformation throughout the country's history and I would venture a guess that liberals were at the fore front of most of them while conservatives were trying to maintain the status quo. In fact, I would venture a guess that those who want to maintain the status quo have always been prone to the hyperbole of declaring any change to be catastrophic.
Oh my

Blairsville, GA

#32343 Nov 27, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
<quoted text>
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
Regrettably common sense is not in high demand from those on the Left so they resort to that time honored tactic of character assassination. Doesn't bolster their argument, but it makes them think they have won the round. What they never seem to realize is that every time they yell "racist" or "bigot" or "greedy" or "selfish" etc, etc we just sit here and see them waving that little white flag.
Kinda like when righties holler "clueless" or "uneducated" or "idiot" or "dummy" or "pervert" or "commie" or "socialist" or "democrap" or "progressive"....
Oh my

Blairsville, GA

#32344 Nov 27, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
http://www.topix.com/forum/cit y/blairsville-ga/T2SSBLTA3OGD9 9SCL/post32321
And let's bring back a perfect illustration of this administration's bias. While this administration is working to destroy this country's right to maintain strong borders and control the influx of illegal aliens...
Yep, it's work day and night, night and day...

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/...
AP: "The U.S.-Mexico Border Is More Fortified Now Than It Was Even Five Years Ago." A June 23, 2010, Associated Press article noted: "You wouldn't know it from the public debate, but the U.S.-Mexico border is more fortified now than it was even five years ago. Far more agents patrol it, more fences, barriers and technology protect it and taxpayers are spending billions more to reinforce it."

http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/08/13/us-...
Obama Signed $600 Million Border Security Bill For More Border Patrol Agents And Customs Inspectors. On August 13, 2010, Obama signed a $600 million border security bill to "fund some 1,500 new border patrol agents, customs inspectors and other law enforcement officials along the border, as well as two more unmanned aerial 'drones' to monitor border activities."

http://www.ice.gov/doclib/about/offices/ero/p...
Deportations Have Increased Under Obama. According to data from the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), nearly 100,000 more people were deported by ICE in both 2009 and 2010 than in 2007.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/...
..The Senate's language suggests that the government has held back from devoting money, equipment and personnel to border security. In fact, even though the 2007 immigration bill ultimately failed, we've nevertheless hit nearly all of the targets that it established for increased border security—except for achieving absolute "operational control" of the border and mandatory detention of all border-crossers who've been apprehended.

The 2007 bill sought to increase the number of Border Patrol agents to 20,000; in FY 2011, we hit 21,444 agents.

The 2007 bill proposed to erect 300 miles of vehicle barriers, 370 miles of fencing, 105 radar and camera towers, and four drones; by 2012, we completed 651 miles of vehicle fencing—including 352 miles of pedestrian fencing and 299 vehicle barriers—300 towers, and nine drones, according to Customs and Border Patrol.

The 2007 bill asked for the resources for Immigration and Customs Enforcement to detain up to 31,500 people per day; ICE now has funding to detain up to 34,000 individuals at any time, per FY 2012 appropriations.

Finally, the 2007 bill also called for what's known as "operational control" of the entire border, which the 2006 Secure Fence Act defined as "the prevention of all unlawful entries into the United States, including entries by terrorists, other unlawful aliens, instruments of terrorism, narcotics, and other contraband."
Experts generally agree that "absolute" control of the border is practically impossible, so DHS has instead defined "effective" operational control as "the ability to detect, respond, and interdict illegal activity at the border or after entry into the United States," as a Congressional Research Service report explains. By that definition, the government had 57 percent of the southern border under "effective control," up from 31 percent in 2007, due to the new border security measures that were implemented since then.(The 2007 bill also called for mandatory federal implementation of workplace immigration enforcement measures like E-Verify; these have only been put into effect by certain states.)
now

Dahlonega, GA

#32345 Nov 27, 2013
Oh my wrote:
<quoted text>
Kinda like when righties holler "clueless" or "uneducated" or "idiot" or "dummy" or "pervert" or "commie" or "socialist" or "democrap" or "progressive"....

The laughing man is playing straight today..........

Funny Dude

Blairsville, GA

#32346 Nov 27, 2013
now wrote:
<quoted text>
The laughing man is playing straight today..........
You're funny dude, not like ha ha funny, if you know what I mean.
the truth

Dahlonega, GA

#32347 Nov 27, 2013
bored monitor wrote:
<quoted text>
wrong again dumbturd.so laughing at u.
Glad I could wake you from your drunken stupor and make you laugh. Really a moron laughing is a funny thing to people who are not as you say a dumbturd. One thing you are is consistent, you never have anything to say but smart ass put downs of something someone else says that you just don't have the brains to comprehend, and that the truth.
the truth

Dahlonega, GA

#32348 Nov 27, 2013
now wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't forget he has some big picture issues, but deals only in itty bitty little issues like the tea baggers........and his prowess in running a business, doesn't say if it's a big business or a small business......I suspect it's probably run out of his trailer and has something to do with skinning animals.....
You have proven time and time again that you, lets say just ain't to smart. And you obviously have no idea of what animal skins are selling for today. Keep thinking small, I know your wife does thanks to you.
JRad

North Kingstown, RI

#32349 Nov 27, 2013
you, lets say just ain't to smart.

Correct way

you, let's just say, you're not toO smart.

Dum azz.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#32350 Nov 27, 2013
the truth wrote:
<quoted text>
....
I believe that we all should get quality healthcare, not healthcare driven by the need for profits or what some for profit insurance company wants you to have because it profitable. The hospitals with the best health care are the hospitals that have doctors on salary, taking out the pure profit motive.
I believe a woman has the right to do with her own body what she chooses. I am free to disagree with her reasons and probably do, but it's not my body and not my decision.
I believe if a gay person wants the same privileges and rights that marriage under law guarantees they should get a lawful marriage. They should be able to get a legal binding marriage, but not a religious one unless the church they attend agrees, that's a moral matter.
My view is that tea baggers live in a world they have created for themselves and just don't have a clue when the real world rears its ugly head.
You believe we have the best health care in the world, not so, nowhere close to being true for most citizens.
....
You believe that you, because of your religion should be able to tell others if they should have a baby or if a gay can get married, not so.
You believe that ownership of an AK47 is guaranteed by the constitution, not so.
And the most insane argument of all is that you believe that FNC, Beck and Rush are telling you the truth and everyone else has lied and continues to lie you, not so.
I also believe that you have the right to believe what you want, but no right to force any moral or religious views on others. Its not your job to screen entrants into heaven, that's God's and he needs no help.
....
And no one is saying there were not improvements that could and arguably should have been made to the healthcare system. But one doesn't even have to strain to realize that improving healthcare was not the goal, the goal was the first step towards single payer - every Democrat in a leadership positions stated it explicitly. Now there might be some who think that is just great, but they/you are sadly mistaken. The arguments have been made too many times to repeat and they are just ignored anyway.
But haven't the last 8 weeks taught you anything about the probable harm to our healthcare system with the government in control when they can't even put the right people in place to manage a website.
They're too busy rewarding their political cronies with contracts and then keep paying the same people who blew it in the first place to fix it. Definition of insanity, anyone?

And you're absolutely right, a woman has the right -within the law- to do whatever she wants with her body and make whatever choices she wants to make. However, once she makes those choices and when a baby results - guess, what - it is no longer just her and her body at stake - there is now a baby involved. Choices have consequences. And it isn't just religious belief that informs that opinion, I refer again to the atheist and agnostic pro-life groups who recognize the humanity of the unborn without any appeal to religious belief.

And how nice of you to agree that a church should be allowed to not perform a gay marriage if it against its beliefs, we'll see how long the Obama administration goes along with that.

And contrary to your opinion, the right to own an AK-47 IS protected under the 2nd Amendment.

And you are free to believe or not believe whatever you choose, thank you 1st Amendment. But I have every right to do the same and try to elect those who agree with me in order to try and prevent YOU from forcing your beliefs on me and mine. How about the businesses that Obamacare wants to force to pay for medical treatment against THEIR beliefs - do you defend their rights?

And still so threatened by Rush and Fox news. So did you have a problem with Martin Bashir's hate filled rant against Sarah Palin?

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#32351 Nov 27, 2013
Oh my wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope, didn't miss that at all, just pointing out that a method to change the Constitution was built into the Constitution, and to change the Constitution takes the agreement of a majority of the people who represent the electorate.
Well, there's been quite a few fundamental transformation throughout the country's history and I would venture a guess that liberals were at the fore front of most of them while conservatives were trying to maintain the status quo. In fact, I would venture a guess that those who want to maintain the status quo have always been prone to the hyperbole of declaring any change to be catastrophic.
And one of the biggest transformations was the emancipation of the slaves - a drive led by religious conservatives.

But you are absolutely right that the creation and obscene growth of the welfare state was absolutely driven by liberals. And look at the result, more and more of our citizens enslaved in a system that does not encourage self reliance, but actually discourages an intact family unit. And that is just one example of the familiar of the liberal agenda.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#32352 Nov 27, 2013
^^^^ "failure of the liberal agenda."

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#32353 Nov 27, 2013
Oh my wrote:
<quoted text>
Kinda like when righties holler "clueless" or "uneducated" or "idiot" or "dummy" or "pervert" or "commie" or "socialist" or "democrap" or "progressive"....
Nope, just an accurate description of those who, for example, do not know the difference between income tax rates and capital gains tax rates or who don't understand the definition of "exemption" or "subsidy".
just sayin

Davidson, NC

#32354 Nov 28, 2013
the truth wrote:
<quoted text>
I have done and still do run a business on a daily basis. I pay for my insurance and my employees.
I believe that every American should have the opportunity to have quality affordable health insurance. This view is not driven by my belief that we owe anybody anything. But fact is with health care if they don't have insurance they get treatment and people with insurance foots the bill, they need to pay something.
I believe that we all should get quality healthcare, not healthcare driven by the need for profits or what some for profit insurance company wants you to have because it profitable. The hospitals with the best health care are the hospitals that have doctors on salary, taking out the pure profit motive.
I believe a woman has the right to do with her own body what she chooses. I am free to disagree with her reasons and probably do, but it's not my body and not my decision.
I believe if a gay person wants the same privileges and rights that marriage under law guarantees they should get a lawful marriage. They should be able to get a legal binding marriage, but not a religious one unless the church they attend agrees, that's a moral matter.
My view is that tea baggers live in a world they have created for themselves and just don't have a clue when the real world rears its ugly head.
You believe we have the best health care in the world, not so, nowhere close to being true for most citizens.
You believe that a for profit corporation with stockholders really cares about your health care, not so. That one should be a no brainer after American corporations have shipped our jobs to 3rd world countries to increase profits for shareholders.
You believe that you, because of your religion should be able to tell others if they should have a baby or if a gay can get married, not so.
You believe that ownership of an AK47 is guaranteed by the constitution, not so.
And the most insane argument of all is that you believe that FNC, Beck and Rush are telling you the truth and everyone else has lied and continues to lie you, not so.
I also believe that you have the right to believe what you want, but no right to force any moral or religious views on others. Its not your job to screen entrants into heaven, that's God's and he needs no help.
I could continue but its like talking to the toilet, the job stinks and it gets you nowhere.
So you are the authority on everything. I understand.
I don't force myself or my convictions on anyone, but I don't feel the need to let every fringe piece of immorality be given special treatment at my expense.
Yes indeed go back to speaking into the toilet, it suits you and the nonsense you spew.
Samson

Dallas, GA

#32355 Nov 28, 2013
just sayin wrote:
<quoted text>
So you are the authority on everything. I understand.
I don't force myself or my convictions on anyone, but I don't feel the need to let every fringe piece of immorality be given special treatment at my expense.
Yes indeed go back to speaking into the toilet, it suits you and the nonsense you spew.
Brilliant!(not)

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#32356 Nov 28, 2013
By the President of the United States of America.

A Proclamation.

The year that is drawing towards its close, has been filled with the blessings of fruitful fields and healthful skies. To these bounties, which are so constantly enjoyed that we are prone to forget the source from which they come, others have been added, which are of so extraordinary a nature, that they cannot fail to penetrate and soften even the heart which is habitually insensible to the ever watchful providence of Almighty God.
In the midst of a civil war of unequaled magnitude and severity, which has sometimes seemed to foreign States to invite and to provoke their aggression, peace has been preserved with all nations, order has been maintained, the laws have been respected and obeyed, and harmony has prevailed everywhere except in the theatre of military conflict; while that theatre has been greatly contracted by the advancing armies and navies of the Union.....
No human counsel hath devised nor hath any mortal hand worked out these great things. They are the gracious gifts of the Most High God, who, while dealing with us in anger for our sins, hath nevertheless remembered mercy. It has seemed to me fit and proper that they should be solemnly, reverently and gratefully acknowledged as with one heart and one voice by the whole American People.
I do therefore invite my fellow citizens in every part of the United States, and also those who are at sea and those who are sojourning in foreign lands, to set apart and observe the last Thursday of November next, as a day of Thanksgiving and Praise to our beneficent Father who dwelleth in the Heavens. And I recommend to them that while offering up the ascriptions justly due to Him for such singular deliverances and blessings, they do also, with humble penitence for our national perverseness and disobedience, commend to His tender care all those who have become widows, orphans, mourners or sufferers in the lamentable civil strife in which we are unavoidably engaged, and fervently implore the interposition of the Almighty Hand to heal the wounds of the nation and to restore it as soon as may be consistent with the Divine purposes to the full enjoyment of peace, harmony, tranquillity and Union.

By the President: Abraham Lincoln
OMTE

Wray, GA

#32357 Nov 28, 2013
Another Thanksgiving Proclamation:


Whereas it is the duty of all Nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey his will, to be grateful for his benefits, and humbly to implore his protection and favor, and Whereas both Houses of Congress have by their joint Committee requested me "to recommend to the People of the United States a day of public thanksgiving and prayer to be observed by acknowledging with grateful hearts the many signal favors of Almighty God, especially by affording them an opportunity peaceably to establish a form of government for their safety and happiness."

Now therefore I do recommend and assign Thursday the 26th day of November next to be devoted by the People of these States to the service of that great and glorious Being, who is the beneficent Author of all the good that was, that is, or that will be. That we may then all unite in rendering unto him our sincere and humble thanks, for his kind care and protection of the People of this country previous to their becoming a Nation, for the signal and manifold mercies, and the favorable interpositions of his providence, which we experienced in the course and conclusion of the late war, for the great degree of tranquility, union, and plenty, which we have since enjoyed, for the peaceable and rational manner in which we have been enabled to establish constitutions of government for our safety and happiness, and particularly the national One now lately instituted, for the civil and religious liberty with which we are blessed, and the means we have of acquiring and diffusing useful knowledge and in general for all the great and various favors which he hath been pleased to confer upon us.

And also that we may then unite in most humbly offering our prayers and supplications to the great Lord and Ruler of Nations and beseech him to pardon our national and other transgressions, to enable us all, whether in public or private stations, to perform our several and relative duties properly and punctually, to render our national government a blessing to all the People, by constantly being a government of wise, just and constitutional laws, discreetly and faithfully executed and obeyed, to protect and guide all Sovereigns and Nations (especially such as have shown kindness unto us) and to bless them with good government, peace, and concord. To promote the knowledge and practice of true religion and virtue, and the encrease of science among them and Us, and generally to grant unto all Mankind such a degree of temporal prosperity as he alone knows to be best.

By our first President: George Washington

P.S. Happy Thanksgiving, Syn, Ag, Dave, and Chickn....!
the truth

Dahlonega, GA

#32358 Nov 28, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
<quoted text>
And no one is saying there were not improvements that could and arguably should have been made to the healthcare system. But one doesn't even have to strain to realize that improving healthcare was not the goal, the goal was the first step towards single payer - every Democrat in a leadership positions stated it explicitly. Now there might be some who think that is just great, but they/you are sadly mistaken. The arguments have been made too many times to repeat and they are just ignored anyway.
But haven't the last 8 weeks taught you anything about the probable harm to our healthcare system with the government in control when they can't even put the right people in place to manage a website.
However, once she makes those choices and when a baby results - guess, what - it is no longer just her and her body at stake - there is now a baby involved. Choices have consequences. And it isn't just religious belief that informs that opinion, I refer again to the atheist and agnostic pro-life groups who recognize the humanity of the unborn without any appeal to religious belief.
And how nice of you to agree that a church should be allowed to not perform a gay marriage if it against its beliefs.
And contrary to your opinion, the right to own an AK-47 IS protected under the 2nd Amendment.
How about the businesses that Obamacare wants to force to pay for medical treatment against THEIR beliefs - do you defend their rights?
And still so threatened by Rush and Fox news. So did you have a problem with Martin Bashir's hate filled rant against Sarah Palin?
1. Most large government programs have had problems at roll out, look it up, Medicare & the Bush changes to Medicare

2. Being made to pay for health care in not a belief, unless believing that someone else will pay for your treatment if you don't is considered a belief, then you are right. Conservatives have NEVER put forth a plan on heath care until ObamaCare. And their plan is to make it like it was, which was literally breaking the bank of our people and this country.

3.When these people being forced to pay for their for health insurance sign legal documents that they will not get or expect to get treated at hospitals and emergency rooms unless they pay up front, I will agree.

4. The writers of the Constitution had no idea a weapon of such mass killing would ever exist. Its not morally right, so if you can live with kids getting killed so you can own a weapon with only one purpose, to kill in mass, that's something you must live with. Don't expect my God to welcome you with open arms, yours might cause yours is not a good and loving God like mine.

5. A website can and will be fixed. The morals of a person who puts self before others all the time can't. You don't have a problem with ObamaCare, other than the perceived cost to you and you know it, just admit it, it can't make you look any worse than you already do.

6. Nothing Rush or FNC says or does surprises me. Nothing they say or do is done without the profit motive at the top of the list. What really bothers me is people like you who buy the crap they sell, and they are selling something, advertising, nothing more.

7. As for Palin, who was a paid for a book and appearances on FNC by the owner Murdock. She has made a fortune with her cute rants at Tea bagger conferences. A person who quit her job as governor of Alaska to go make her fortune. A person who has allowed her daughter to do reality TV, and who herself has also done reality TV. That person has opened the door to any attack by anyone and in my opinion really truly deserves to be attacked.

8. NOBODY should use this government to force their religious believes on anyone, that's what you want to do, and what you do. Your stand on abortion is a religious one and for you to try and pass laws based on what your religion is, that's just wrong.

Why can't you live your religious life as you want and let others do the same????

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