whom

Toccoa, GA

#29004 Oct 28, 2013
whom wrote:
<quoted text>
A lot of wind from a blowhard to say only one thing........
Buying and selling from insurance proceeds.
Buying and selling in NOT new news, in fact most any conservative can tell you the same thing. Only a very few libroids know about this....
You are exceptional, for once only, in knowing this.....
go tell mama you get a star, and be sure and tell her it was a lucky guess....

Also this post addresses the oranges, whereas the original post was about apples. In libroid land they are the same, mainly because of their dissociative identity disorder in distinguishing color, clarity, sexual identity, and differences between right, wrong, and their confused mental state....

Which comes out in the end, a very confused and easily manipulated person in the person of a dedicated socialist, because he can't dress himself, by himself....Mother's help is needed...




Since: Nov 08

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#29005 Oct 28, 2013
Devils Advocate wrote:
<quoted text>
Fox gives us what we want, the truth. Sure they might make a mistake on figures or polls. Unlike the others that do make mistakes. I would hate to know that I was basing my knowlwdge of Fox on that simple mistake you quoted. Try outright lying by the others on Fast and Furious, IRS, NSA, the billions spent on private parties. and the JOKE. OBAMMY CARE and I could go on. Try listening to someone besides the MSNBC liars and you may learn something. Though I doubt it. You are already wearing the bell around your neck, like all good sheep need to do.
Tell it like it is, Brother!!!!!

Since: Nov 08

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#29006 Oct 28, 2013
Bigdave1 wrote:
<quoted text>
I see you are another know it all. Your just like the government. Most people get the policies that suit them best and fits their personal needs you dope. They don't need you or the government telling them what their needs are. Perhaps they have a plan that fits their needs and also fits their pocketbook. I would think the consumer knows what is best for his or her own healthcare needs. They do not need you or anyone else picking a policy for them that may be over insured, that they don't want and can not afford.
You liberals have a lot of gall to walk around trying to feel superior sticking your nose in every bodies business. Pick your own healthcare out and we will pick the health care that we need and can afford.
In other words, Butt Out!!
Well said. You even lowered yourself to reply to the forum Clownpants. I'm sure it's lonely being on his planet. You did your good deed for the day. lol

Since: Nov 12

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#29008 Oct 28, 2013
I'm curious, Obama is supposedly the President of the United States. Does he do anything but play golf and try to wreck our health system. He certainly doesn't seem to be trying to actually pay attention to anything going on in his administration:

He didn't know about Fast and Furious.

He didn't know about Solyndra.

He didn't know about the IRS targeting of Tea Party groups.

He didn't know the Obamacare website wasn't ready.

He didn't know the security was so bad in Benghazi (and went to bed even after he knew the consulate was under attack.)

He didn't know about the wiretapping of AP.

He didn't know about NSA spying on foreign leaders.

He sure does seem to find out a lot about what's going on in his own administration from the news. So tell me, just what are we paying him for? Is doing any actual work beneath him?

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#29009 Oct 28, 2013
Don't know if this was covered on here already, but....

So Verizon is brought on board to try and help solve the problems with the Obamacare website. Saturday, Sebelius says that everything is going to be just peachy now. Sunday, the data center crashes and cannot communicate with the federal government's information hub and affects enrollment in all 50 states. And so far the only person to lose their job is some poor woman making $26,000/year working on the Obamacare helpline who actually answered Sean Hannity's questions honestly.

And where are all those healthy young people that Obamacare HAS TO HAVE in order for this thing to not collapse? Instead what we are getting is the majority of the enrollees signing up for Medicaid, not insurance - so that's a net loss for the program. Gee, why didn't anybody warn us that Obamacare was going to be a disaster.....oh, wait..........
truth be told

Dahlonega, GA

#29010 Oct 28, 2013
Bigdave1 wrote:
<quoted text>
I see you are another know it all. Your just like the government. Most people get the policies that suit them best and fits their personal needs you dope. They don't need you or the government telling them what their needs are. Perhaps they have a plan that fits their needs and also fits their pocketbook. I would think the consumer knows what is best for his or her own healthcare needs. They do not need you or anyone else picking a policy for them that may be over insured, that they don't want and can not afford.
You liberals have a lot of gall to walk around trying to feel superior sticking your nose in every bodies business. Pick your own healthcare out and we will pick the health care that we need and can afford.
In other words, Butt Out!!
You don't have health care now do you. The plan that fits your pocketbook is the don't carry or care plan. You don't carry insurance and when you get to the emergency room you don't care who pays for your care, it just won't be you.

When they come up with a legal document that allows hospitals to let people without insurance die in the waiting room, then we will agree. Until that time comes deadbeats need to pay something and folks like you need the coverage that is needed, not just what you can afford, so someone else pays the difference for you.
Devils Advocate

Douglas, GA

#29011 Oct 28, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
I'm curious, Obama is supposedly the President of the United States. Does he do anything but play golf and try to wreck our health system. He certainly doesn't seem to be trying to actually pay attention to anything going on in his administration:
He didn't know about Fast and Furious.
He didn't know about Solyndra.
He didn't know about the IRS targeting of Tea Party groups.
He didn't know the Obamacare website wasn't ready.
He didn't know the security was so bad in Benghazi (and went to bed even after he knew the consulate was under attack.)
He didn't know about the wiretapping of AP.
He didn't know about NSA spying on foreign leaders.
He sure does seem to find out a lot about what's going on in his own administration from the news. So tell me, just what are we paying him for? Is doing any actual work beneath him?
Yet he is supposed to be the smartest POTUS of all time. That is according to the Liberal sheep that love him to death. He will go done as the best. Only thing is he is the best LIAR of all time. Not only that he is also the weakest prez in history.

It's amazing to me that supposly smart people could know about all this and still vote and support this idiot.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#29012 Oct 28, 2013
truth be told wrote:
<quoted text>
You don't have health care now do you. The plan that fits your pocketbook is the don't carry or care plan. You don't carry insurance and when you get to the emergency room you don't care who pays for your care, it just won't be you.
When they come up with a legal document that allows hospitals to let people without insurance die in the waiting room, then we will agree. Until that time comes deadbeats need to pay something and folks like you need the coverage that is needed, not just what you can afford, so someone else pays the difference for you.
Wow, it must be great to be omniscient and KNOW what other people have or don't have for their health care.

Reagan had a great saying for little lefties like you and the other Left wing posters on here and it bears repeating:
"Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so."
whom

Toccoa, GA

#29013 Oct 28, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
I'm curious, Obama is supposedly the President of the United States. Does he do anything but play golf and try to wreck our health system. He certainly doesn't seem to be trying to actually pay attention to anything going on in his administration:
He didn't know about Fast and Furious.
He didn't know about Solyndra.
He didn't know about the IRS targeting of Tea Party groups.
He didn't know the Obamacare website wasn't ready.
He didn't know the security was so bad in Benghazi (and went to bed even after he knew the consulate was under attack.)
He didn't know about the wiretapping of AP.
He didn't know about NSA spying on foreign leaders.
He sure does seem to find out a lot about what's going on in his own administration from the news. So tell me, just what are we paying him for? Is doing any actual work beneath him?

Well, he did know about Bin Laden, but only after hillary and panetta invited him to watch tv....doing the take down....

About the Waffle house president...how to waffle and wiggle...


"But a “White House insider” quoted on Socybrty says the following:

Q: You stated that President Obama was “overruled” by military/intelligence officials regarding the decision to send in military specialists into the Osama Bin Laden compound. Was that accurate?

A: I was told – in these exact terms,“we overruled him.”(Obama) I have since followed up and received further details on exactly what that meant, as well as the specifics of how Leon Panetta worked around the president’s “persistent hesitation to act.” There appears NOT to have been an outright overruling of any specific position by President Obama, simply because there was no specific position from the president to do so. President Obama was, in this case, as in all others, working as an absentee president.

I was correct in stating there had been a push to invade the compound for several weeks if not months, primarily led by Leon Panetta, Hillary Clinton, Robert Gates, David Petraeus, and Jim Clapper. The primary opposition to this plan originated from Valerie Jarrett, and it was her opposition that was enough to create uncertainty within President Obama. Obama would meet with various components of the pro-invasion faction, almost always with Jarrett present, and then often fail to indicate his position. This situation continued for some time, though the division between Jarrett/Obama and the rest intensified more recently, most notably from Hillary Clinton. She was livid over the president’s failure to act, and her office began a campaign of anonymous leaks to the media indicating such. As for Jarrett, her concern rested on two primary fronts. One, that the military action could fail and harm the president’s already weakened standing with both the American public and the world. Second, that the attack would be viewed as an act of aggression against Muslims, and further destabilize conditions in the Middle East."

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#29014 Oct 28, 2013
Devils Advocate wrote:
<quoted text>
Yet he is supposed to be the smartest POTUS of all time. That is according to the Liberal sheep that love him to death. He will go done as the best. Only thing is he is the best LIAR of all time. Not only that he is also the weakest prez in history.
It's amazing to me that supposly smart people could know about all this and still vote and support this idiot.
Too many people bought the hype and the empty suit. This president has gotten a free ride from the media for far too long, but it appears some are waking up and smelling the coffee. It remains to be seen as to whether or not their own professional reputations finally mean more to them than trying to hide this man's incompetence in their slavish devotion to the Democrat party. Or will they get their hands slapped and go back to toeing the line. Time will tell.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#29015 Oct 28, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
I'm curious, Obama is supposedly the President of the United States. Does he do anything but play golf and try to wreck our health system. He certainly doesn't seem to be trying to actually pay attention to anything going on in his administration:
He didn't know about Fast and Furious.
He didn't know about Solyndra.
He didn't know about the IRS targeting of Tea Party groups.
He didn't know the Obamacare website wasn't ready.
He didn't know the security was so bad in Benghazi (and went to bed even after he knew the consulate was under attack.)
He didn't know about the wiretapping of AP.
He didn't know about NSA spying on foreign leaders.
He sure does seem to find out a lot about what's going on in his own administration from the news. So tell me, just what are we paying him for? Is doing any actual work beneath him?
AND the libs STILL defend him. They would be just as loyal if Obama were a conservative, don't 'cha know.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#29016 Oct 28, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
Don't know if this was covered on here already, but....
So Verizon is brought on board to try and help solve the problems with the Obamacare website. Saturday, Sebelius says that everything is going to be just peachy now. Sunday, the data center crashes and cannot communicate with the federal government's information hub and affects enrollment in all 50 states. And so far the only person to lose their job is some poor woman making $26,000/year working on the Obamacare helpline who actually answered Sean Hannity's questions honestly.
And where are all those healthy young people that Obamacare HAS TO HAVE in order for this thing to not collapse? Instead what we are getting is the majority of the enrollees signing up for Medicaid, not insurance - so that's a net loss for the program. Gee, why didn't anybody warn us that Obamacare was going to be a disaster.....oh, wait..........
Yoooouuuuu NAILED it!!!!!!!!!! GREAT post.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#29017 Oct 28, 2013
truth be told wrote:
<quoted text>
You don't have health care now do you. The plan that fits your pocketbook is the don't carry or care plan. You don't carry insurance and when you get to the emergency room you don't care who pays for your care, it just won't be you.
When they come up with a legal document that allows hospitals to let people without insurance die in the waiting room, then we will agree. Until that time comes deadbeats need to pay something and folks like you need the coverage that is needed, not just what you can afford, so someone else pays the difference for you.
It's interesting how you accuse BigDave of not having insurance just because he has a brain and doesn't agree with you. So! What do you think is going to happen to those people who STILL don't have insurance when they go to the ER? Tell us how THAT will be changed. To DECLARE that there won't be AS MANY without insurance is pure speculation. Some with receive subsidies, but others won't. You simply don't know that. Also, tell us how many people YOU think STILL won't have insurance regardless of the fines.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#29018 Oct 28, 2013
Devils Advocate wrote:
<quoted text>
Yet he is supposed to be the smartest POTUS of all time. That is according to the Liberal sheep that love him to death. He will go done as the best. Only thing is he is the best LIAR of all time. Not only that he is also the weakest prez in history.
It's amazing to me that supposly smart people could know about all this and still vote and support this idiot.
History will be kind to him regardless because he is the main character in the social experiment. There is NO WAY that the first black president will be represented as anything other than the savior of the wesstern hemisphere. It doesn't matter how much chaos and debauchery he causes, he'll come out smelling like a rose and will not be embarrassed about it. He has no shame. He is his own biggest fan.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#29019 Oct 28, 2013
whom wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, he did know about Bin Laden, but only after hillary and panetta invited him to watch tv....doing the take down....
About the Waffle house president...how to waffle and wiggle...
"But a “White House insider” quoted on Socybrty says the following:
Q: You stated that President Obama was “overruled” by military/intelligence officials regarding the decision to send in military specialists into the Osama Bin Laden compound. Was that accurate?
A: I was told – in these exact terms,“we overruled him.”(Obama) I have since followed up and received further details on exactly what that meant, as well as the specifics of how Leon Panetta worked around the president’s “persistent hesitation to act.” There appears NOT to have been an outright overruling of any specific position by President Obama, simply because there was no specific position from the president to do so. President Obama was, in this case, as in all others, working as an absentee president.
I was correct in stating there had been a push to invade the compound for several weeks if not months, primarily led by Leon Panetta, Hillary Clinton, Robert Gates, David Petraeus, and Jim Clapper. The primary opposition to this plan originated from Valerie Jarrett, and it was her opposition that was enough to create uncertainty within President Obama. Obama would meet with various components of the pro-invasion faction, almost always with Jarrett present, and then often fail to indicate his position. This situation continued for some time, though the division between Jarrett/Obama and the rest intensified more recently, most notably from Hillary Clinton. She was livid over the president’s failure to act, and her office began a campaign of anonymous leaks to the media indicating such. As for Jarrett, her concern rested on two primary fronts. One, that the military action could fail and harm the president’s already weakened standing with both the American public and the world. Second, that the attack would be viewed as an act of aggression against Muslims, and further destabilize conditions in the Middle East."
He still takes credit and is given credit. As I posted before, he has no shame. Well, look. He accepted the Nobel Peace Prize for doing nothing. What an ego manical fraud.
Just sayin

Dahlonega, GA

#29021 Oct 29, 2013
truth be told wrote:
<quoted text>
You don't have health care now do you. The plan that fits your pocketbook is the don't carry or care plan. You don't carry insurance and when you get to the emergency room you don't care who pays for your care, it just won't be you.
When they come up with a legal document that allows hospitals to let people without insurance die in the waiting room, then we will agree. Until that time comes deadbeats need to pay something and folks like you need the coverage that is needed, not just what you can afford, so someone else pays the difference for you.
Another spokesperson for der leader. Translated- we the government know how stupid and useless you the great unwashed are, so we the government will tell you what insurance coverage you must have. Never mind that you're a man in your sixties, you need maternity coverage. Never mind that you chose to have a high deductible policy that covered only the catastrophic and countered that with a health savings account, we know that you must also pay for coverage you don't want. After all, how else can we in the government make sure we can create monstrous, too big to fail insurance companies if we let you make your own decisions regarding your insurance investments. How else can we the government maintain control over your every movement unless we can dole out health care, not based on your need or what you have chosen to pay for, but on our scale of your usefulness to us.
Only a fool could defend what the government is perpetrating on we the people.
Just sayin

Dahlonega, GA

#29022 Oct 29, 2013
Synergy wrote:
<quoted text>
History will be kind to him regardless because he is the main character in the social experiment. There is NO WAY that the first black president will be represented as anything other than the savior of the wesstern hemisphere. It doesn't matter how much chaos and debauchery he causes, he'll come out smelling like a rose and will not be embarrassed about it. He has no shame. He is his own biggest fan.
You're right and he is also hypersensitive to any criticism since it's all about him. This is why the European countries are suddenly making a big deal out of some spying that has gone on for generations. They know that can get something out of obama because he is such a cry baby. He will give them whatever they want as long as they agree to make him look good.
Just sayin

Dahlonega, GA

#29023 Oct 29, 2013
Notice all of the talk over the weekend about the healtcare.gov website failures?
Listening to all of the back and forth, I realized that the defenders of this mess called obamacare are not worried that more people are without insurance because of this, but rather what the political fallout may be over the website failure.
Liars with no principles only a lust for power. The progressive way.
Oh my

Blairsville, GA

#29024 Oct 29, 2013
HHS Works to Fix Drug Plan Woes
by Ceci Connolly
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, January 18, 2006
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/...

President Bush's top health advisers will fan out across the country this week to quell rising discontent with a new Medicare prescription drug benefit that has tens of thousands of elderly and disabled Americans, their pharmacists, and governors struggling to resolve myriad start-up problems.

Health and Human Services Secretary Mike Leavitt, who will visit Oregon and California, said yesterday that 24 million Medicare beneficiaries now have prescription coverage, compared with the 20.4 million who had been receiving drug benefits last year through state- or employer-sponsored plans. That means the new program, expected to cost $700 billion in the first 10 years, is providing drug coverage to 3.6 million new retirees.

In a call with reporters, Leavitt said enrollment in the program, called Medicare Part D, exceeded expectations and put the administration "well on track to meet our goal of enrolling 28 to 30 million in the first year." Last year, officials predicted 39 million seniors and disabled people would participate, according to documents published in the Federal Register on Jan. 28, 2005.

In the past month, 2.6 million people have signed up for a drug plan. Seniors have until May 15 to enroll.

Even as federal leaders touted the enrollment figures, state officials and health care experts continued to report widespread difficulties, especially for the poorest and sickest seniors who were forced to switch from state Medicaid programs to the new Medicare plans on Jan. 1. Nearly two dozen states have intervened, saying they will pay for medications for any low-income senior who is mistakenly rejected. The District, Maryland and Virginia have not intervened.....
Oh my

Blairsville, GA

#29025 Oct 29, 2013
Under Bush, Republicans Vigorously Defended Health Care Reform Despite Serious Glitches
BY IGOR VOLSKY
OCTOBER 24, 2013 AT 8:49 AM
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/10/24/28...

Millions of Americans try to enroll in health care benefits during the first days of a new government health care program. They rely on indispensable government website that had been “pitched as a high-tech way” to sort through available coverage options. They’re encountering countless glitches and technical errors: the website freezes, displays incorrect plan information and sends insurers erroneous reports.

Administration officials — clearly caught off guard by the surge of technical difficulties — respond to “tens of thousands of complaints” from angry beneficiaries and promise to “fix every problem as quickly possible.”

This sounds like the familiar story of the last few days of the Obama administration’s rollout of the exchanges. But, actually, those quotes, and that scenario, are taken from the Bush administration’s efforts to implement the Medicare prescription drug benefit in 2005 and 2006.

...As the House Energy and Commerce Committee holds its first hearing on the implementation of the the Affordable Care Act on Thursday, it’s worth noting that some of the very same Republicans who are lashing out against Obamacare, arguing that the botched rollout is proof that the government cannot implement effectively and should repeal the law entirely, gave the Bush administration a pass and urged Americans not to pre-judge such a complicated process. At least four of the Republicans still on the committee had argued that early implementation hurdles should not taint the entirety of reform:

REP. JOE BARTON (R-TX):“This is a huge undertaking and there are going to be glitches. My goal is the same as yours: Get rid of the glitches. The committee will work closely with yourself and Dr. Mark McClellan at CMS to get problems noticed and solved.”[Barton Statement via Archive.org , 2/15/2006]

REP. TIM MURPHY (R-PA):“Any time something is new, there is going to be some glitches. All of us, when our children were new, well, we knew as parents we didn’t exactly know everything we were doing and we had a foul-up or two, but we persevered and our children turned out well. No matter what one does in life, when it is something new in learning the ropes of it, it is going to take a little adjustment.”[Murphy Floor Speech via Congressional Record, 4/6/2006]

REP. MICHAEL BURGESS (R-TX):“We can’t undo the past, but certainly they can make the argument that we are having this hearing a month late and perhaps we are, but the reality is the prescription drug benefit is 40 years late and seniors who signed up for Medicare those first days back in 1965 when they were 65 years of age are now 106 years of age waiting for that prescription drug benefit, so I hope it doesn’t take us that long to get this right and I don’t believe that it will. And I do believe that fundamentally it is a good plan.”[“Medicare Part D: Implementation of the New Drug Benefit,” 3/1/2006]

REP. PHIL GINGREY (R-GA):“I delivered 5,200 babies, but this may be the best delivery that I have ever been a part of, Mr. Speaker, and that is delivering, as I say, on a promise made by former Congresses and other Presidents over the 45-year history of the Medicare program, which was introduced in 1965 with no prescription drug benefit. And what we have done here is add part D, the ‘D’ for ‘drug’ or, if you want, the ‘delivery’ that we have finally provided to our American seniors.”[Gingrey Floor Speech via Congressional Record, 4/6/06]

Ultimately, the Bush administration fixed the law’s technical glitches, but more than half of the beneficiaries who ended up signing up for insurance didn’t do so until after the first of the year...

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