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Dawsonville, GA

#27403 Oct 16, 2013
OMTE wrote:
The only thing MSNBC has goin for them, is, Tamron Hill is HOTT! LoL.
http://personalliberty.com/2013/10/15/faking-...
Impeach Obama Today!
Family photos just for you, just gotta lov em don't ya. I understand they are closet republicans.

http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/pict...
Oh my

Blairsville, GA

#27404 Oct 16, 2013
Time for a new Outrage de Jour...

Bottom line at World War II Memorial: Honor Flight organizer says 'We've had no problems at all'
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/10/16/1247...

The kinda sorta closing of the World War II Memorial has provided a lot of fodder for Republican outrage. Outrage that, let's not forget, stems from the government shutting things down after Republicans shut the government down. But as reports have emerged that, for all the posturing in front of barricades supposedly people keeping out, veterans are actually visiting the memorial without problems, it's worth asking: What effect is it actually having on veterans?

“We’ve had no problems at all,” said Jim McLaughlin, a lead organizer for the Honor Flight Network, the nonprofit group drawn into the dispute when several GOP lawmakers accompanied its guests during their first visit to the memorial hours after the shutdown started.

While Republicans have continued to argue that the monument is closed — images and video of the lawmakers with the visiting veterans quickly became the B-roll on the shutdown’s first day — McLaughlin said in an interview that his group has been able to bring several hundred more veterans to see the site since Oct. 1.

This is probably not what Rep. Darrell Issa is looking to be told in his Wednesday hearing on why the shutdown shut down parks, but sometimes when you manufacture outrage over a non-issue, people eventually do realize that's what you did....
whom

Broken Arrow, OK

#27405 Oct 16, 2013
any sense wrote:
<quoted text>
Funny thing, the hospital is owned by the county that's also supported by tax dollars. The health department charges for the services provided, unless the person can't pay and needs the service, just like the hospitals do.
Since you are so knowledgeable please tell me why I can negotiate a better deal, 20% better, in 5 minutes on the phone with a person in the billing department at the hospital than Blue Cross and Blue Shield of Georgia, the largest insurer in the state.
Also please tell me,now what heath insurance companies are required by law to spend at least 85% of premiums paid on care or give the insured a refund, none have gone bankrupt. That's been the law and insurance companies have given refunds on this years business.
I am not a liberal or a conservative, but part of what's left of the people in the middle, not caring for either side. So if you can type without calling people names you think are derogatory please do. I am waiting for your answer, the question is will it come?? And if it does will it make any sense?? Saying ObamaCare is not it, that's someone's opinion and is not an answer to any question, so don't use that.

Well Ugly Eve, since our last posts, I researched Union General Hospital...

First off you are wrong from the get go, it is not owned by Union county government. It is a non-profit corporation operating under the moniker Union General Hospital...under a Board of Directors…
Most rural hospitals start off depending on gubmint funds, but usually become self-sufficient and no longer need tax dollars. There are some that are still totally dependent on tax dollars, as in Grady Hospital in Atlanta, but then again in most cases they are inner city hospitals.
Any rural hospital needing tax dollars after 15-20 in business are poorly managed by an incompetent board of directors. Union General appears to have a good board to maintain their independence…


County tax dollars does NOT support the hospital...I found one item where county government has a contract with the hospital to provide funds to assist with the cost of ambulance service, as most ambulance services are county tax payer funded in rural areas...

And everyone can negotiate directly with most any hospital, so you are not special in that regard.. BTW, most hospital charges are higher in order to drag up the low reimbursements from insurance companies, including Medicare and Medicaid. FYI: Medicare only pays between 40 to 60% of prevailing charges, hence the higher cost charged by doctors and hospitals. Medicaid pays even less, which explains why few doctors accept Medicaid and most hospitals lose on Medicaid patients..

Individuals, like yourself, are a godsend to hospitals and doctors when they can collect from you, even with a 20% reduction on the bill.
FYI:: there are some Hospitals Corporations now buying up poorly run Hospitals, in order to turn them into a money-making enterprise. They even sell stock on the market…..

Most of the rest of your argument is a straw man argument, which I refuse to respond too.
I will say this about Obamacare, if you take the bronze plan it will only pay 60% of rate charges similar to Medicare and Medicaid, so you will still owe 40%.
Take an example of a hospital stay that may cost $100,000 for a major stay. Obamacare may negotiate a fee of $70,000. Obamacare will pay 60% of $70k which is $42k, which leaves you owning $28k, which will not be negotiable.
And the Obamacare plan will probably charge you around $200 up to around $850 a month, according to your financial situation. Can you even afford the $200 or $850 a month???
Can you even pay your 40% upfront?? or later??
And lastly, why are you so readily dependent on others to pay your bills??? the subsidy provided by Obamacare. If you are not a democrat as you say.
Why not just get free emergency care as you can today, if you are poor??
whom

Broken Arrow, OK

#27406 Oct 16, 2013
Laughable wrote:
<quoted text>
Who, What, When, Where and any host of other user names used can't give an answer without calling names. Just in his/her/its DNA.

hey dummy!!

whom

Broken Arrow, OK

#27407 Oct 16, 2013
ChicknButt wrote:
<quoted text>
http://www.cnn.com/
http://www.foxnews.com/
http://www.reuters.com/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/
http://www.npr.org/
http://abcnews.go.com/
http://www.cbsnews.com/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/
All the facts listed will be reported on someplace in every single link provided. Do some reading.
<quoted text>
My goodness, are you avoiding FACTS? Changing subjects? Ignoring things that would be uncomfortable for you to admit?
Sure seems that way.

@ the Chicken butt.
"Wow, you're so lost a map wouldn't help you out."

So you are saying your post quoted here with the links provided is your proof of truth and facts?????

Dont you have some kids to play around with....
whom

Broken Arrow, OK

#27408 Oct 16, 2013
ChicknButt wrote:
<quoted text>
You've got a real logical fallacy going on here.
You're presenting the worst of something as being indicative of the whole thing.
There are over 7 billion people on this planet. Many of them are as stupid as a box of rocks, as you yourself might be painful aware of.
No matter what position you choose to hold, you'll find somebody that's freaking idiotic to trot out as an example of why you hold that position. It's easy, because so many people are idiots.
However - Those examples might be entertaining to you - and go both ways - they have relatively little - to absolutely nothing - to do with reality and the real issues.
There are 7 billion people on the planet. You'll find whatever it is you're looking for. That doesn't mean everybody is that way.
For example - If I presented Paul Braun as an example of all Republicans, the world would probably consider it an act of kindness to open hunting season on Republicans. Luckily, not ALL of them are that stupid.
You're presenting a logical fallacy. Not even a clever one. Got it?
http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/gop...

and have you counted every last one of us on the palnet..

while I do present logical points, yours are so illogical as to resemble the name of one user here, called Laughable.
whom

Broken Arrow, OK

#27409 Oct 16, 2013
Oh my wrote:
Time for a new Outrage de Jour...
Bottom line at World War II Memorial: Honor Flight organizer says 'We've had no problems at all'
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/10/16/1247...
The kinda sorta closing of the World War II Memorial has provided a lot of fodder for Republican outrage. Outrage that, let's not forget, stems from the government shutting things down after Republicans shut the government down. But as reports have emerged that, for all the posturing in front of barricades supposedly people keeping out, veterans are actually visiting the memorial without problems, it's worth asking: What effect is it actually having on veterans?
“We’ve had no problems at all,” said Jim McLaughlin, a lead organizer for the Honor Flight Network, the nonprofit group drawn into the dispute when several GOP lawmakers accompanied its guests during their first visit to the memorial hours after the shutdown started.
While Republicans have continued to argue that the monument is closed — images and video of the lawmakers with the visiting veterans quickly became the B-roll on the shutdown’s first day — McLaughlin said in an interview that his group has been able to bring several hundred more veterans to see the site since Oct. 1.
This is probably not what Rep. Darrell Issa is looking to be told in his Wednesday hearing on why the shutdown shut down parks, but sometimes when you manufacture outrage over a non-issue, people eventually do realize that's what you did....

another report from the "world of make believe."

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#27410 Oct 16, 2013
ChicknButt wrote:
<quoted text>
http://www.cnn.com/
http://www.foxnews.com/
http://www.reuters.com/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/
http://www.npr.org/
http://abcnews.go.com/
http://www.cbsnews.com/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/
All the facts listed will be reported on someplace in every single link provided. Do some reading.
<quoted text>
My goodness, are you avoiding FACTS? Changing subjects? Ignoring things that would be uncomfortable for you to admit?
Sure seems that way.
lol I guess you got that list from an email. Your sources are rather convenient, don't 'cha think? YOU are too funny. You are ducking and dodging as fast as you can.

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#27411 Oct 16, 2013
ChicknButt wrote:
<quoted text>
http://www.cnn.com/
http://www.foxnews.com/
http://www.reuters.com/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/
http://www.npr.org/
http://abcnews.go.com/
http://www.cbsnews.com/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/
All the facts listed will be reported on someplace in every single link provided. Do some reading.
<quoted text>
My goodness, are you avoiding FACTS? Changing subjects? Ignoring things that would be uncomfortable for you to admit?
Sure seems that way.
No. I'm not changing subjects at all. Actually, I am right on point. I asked you a question and you don't have the courage to be honest. Not surprised.

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#27412 Oct 16, 2013
whom wrote:
<quoted text>
I wonder why they all are so afraid of telling us about their signing up for obamacare???????
Maybe because they cant get the website to work for them...I mean they should be able to see the true costs without jumping through hoops of telling a website their life story...
You are 100% correct. They can't GET it, but they think it's just wonderful. rotfl

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#27413 Oct 16, 2013
Laughable wrote:
<quoted text>
But you did go to a "socialist" school paid for by the government, didn't you? Somehow providing adequate health care to all citizens isn't the same in your book.
(This is GREAT!!!!!!) See how well the government schools are educating our children? lol ( YOU fell right into this one.) Just think. That same government is going to be in charge of our healthcare. I bet that makes you all giddy, doesn't it??????

Tell me. What makes you think that the government is suddenly going to become competent enough to run our healthcare? I will await your answer, although you rarely respond when I back you into a corner.(You were hoping I didn't realize that, huh?)

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#27414 Oct 16, 2013
ChicknButt wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow, you're so lost a map wouldn't help you out.
YOU OBVIOUSLY copied that list from something. My guess is that you got it from an email. Your listing a bunch of conveniently CHOSEN sources is completely unacceptable. How ridiculous of you to try to pass such a goofy stunt off on us. You just lost crediblity points galore and THAT is indisputable!!!!!!!!!! You should be ashamed. SH

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#27415 Oct 16, 2013
ChicknButt wrote:
<quoted text>
You've got a real logical fallacy going on here.
You're presenting the worst of something as being indicative of the whole thing.
There are over 7 billion people on this planet. Many of them are as stupid as a box of rocks, as you yourself might be painful aware of.
No matter what position you choose to hold, you'll find somebody that's freaking idiotic to trot out as an example of why you hold that position. It's easy, because so many people are idiots.
However - Those examples might be entertaining to you - and go both ways - they have relatively little - to absolutely nothing - to do with reality and the real issues.
There are 7 billion people on the planet. You'll find whatever it is you're looking for. That doesn't mean everybody is that way.
For example - If I presented Paul Braun as an example of all Republicans, the world would probably consider it an act of kindness to open hunting season on Republicans. Luckily, not ALL of them are that stupid.
You're presenting a logical fallacy. Not even a clever one. Got it?
http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/gop...
You sure can dish it out, but you have a SERIOUS problem taking it. Typical liberal. It's getting about time for you to throw down the race card. I'm sure that will hit the screen sometime soon.
whom

Broken Arrow, OK

#27416 Oct 16, 2013

@ Ugly Eve;;

Let me axe you a question, if the libroids really have concern about your welfare, why didn’t they create a single payer healthcare system similar to medicare???

Is it because they get a 2 pronged advantage from it?? Financial support from the insurance industry, and votes from those who think they are getting a good deal with obamacre??

And if those who think they are getting a good deal from obamacare, find out they are not, what do you suppose they will do about it in the next few elections??
Will they continue in their dumbness and vote democrat??

whom

Broken Arrow, OK

#27417 Oct 16, 2013

The sky's the limit on debt ceiling........

"Senate Debt Deal Includes Provision Lessening Congress' Power On Debt Ceiling."


"The plan includes a proposal offered by McConnell in the 2011 debt ceiling crisis that allows Congress to disapprove of the debt ceiling increase, which means lawmakers will formally vote on whether to reject a debt ceiling increase until Feb. 7. Obama can veto that legislation if it passes. If Congress fails as expected to gather a two-thirds majority to override the veto, the debt ceiling would be raised."

http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2013/10/16...




And lookee here........

the ole horse trading is still alive and well with both house of congress.....

"McConnell-Reid Deal Includes $2 Billion Earmark for Kentucky Project"

For stabbing the backs of fellow conservatives...

http://wfpl.org/post/mcconnell-reid-deal-incl...

gored moniker thingy

Cordele, GA

#27418 Oct 16, 2013
whom wrote:
<quoted text>
You got monkeys??
....is this the GROWN MAN that calls a penis a "thingy". When I first heard you use that word you were posing as a woman, so I didn't think too much about it. I thought, well maybe SHE is just a kindergarten teacher that was born in Canada or something. But once you tried to come out as a man...well it just put a whole new spin on it and I understood why you and the "bored monitor" had bonded so well...but not to worry, dear we progressives tend to be very accepting of your kind( whatever it is)
whom

Broken Arrow, OK

#27419 Oct 16, 2013
Synergy wrote:
<quoted text>
lol I guess you got that list from an email. Your sources are rather convenient, don't 'cha think? YOU are too funny. You are ducking and dodging as fast as you can.

ROFL......
He even threw in the ChinaDaily,,,, but left out the dailykos....

being handicapped by a choice of few supporting weblinks, many libs will turn to using the shotgun effect....i.e. just point and see what you can hit.......

whom

Broken Arrow, OK

#27420 Oct 16, 2013

I do believe billy is right again, as usual.....


"Graham:'Greed, Lust' at Heart of Political Chaos"

No kin to Lindsey Graham, the rino....

http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2013/October/Gr...

whom

Broken Arrow, OK

#27421 Oct 16, 2013
gored moniker thingy wrote:
<quoted text>....is this the GROWN MAN that calls a penis a "thingy". When I first heard you use that word you were posing as a woman, so I didn't think too much about it. I thought, well maybe SHE is just a kindergarten teacher that was born in Canada or something. But once you tried to come out as a man...well it just put a whole new spin on it and I understood why you and the "bored monitor" had bonded so well...but not to worry, dear we progressives tend to be very accepting of your kind( whatever it is)

well now jebby, a thingy can be many things to different people, but only a dirty mind will automatically associate it to a penis...

But I'm sure you are just a wee little fella among the ladies......and insecure too boot....



ROFLmbo.......








ChicknButt

Douglasville, GA

#27422 Oct 16, 2013
whom wrote:
<quoted text>
@ the Chicken butt.
"Wow, you're so lost a map wouldn't help you out."
So you are saying your post quoted here with the links provided is your proof of truth and facts?????
Dont you have some kids to play around with....
The proof of facts is in there. You have to READ to find them.

Sorry to put you at such a disadvantage. Your "Participation" trophy is in the mail.

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