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Now

Carnesville, GA

#26996 Oct 11, 2013
guest wrote:
"Why aren’t Republicans more afraid? The entire premise of both the government shutdown and the threats to force the government into debt default is that Democrats care more about the consequences of these actions than the Republicans do. Republicans may go on TV and shed crocodile tears about national monuments being shut down, but the act isn’t really fooling the voters: The only way to understand these fights is to understand that the GOP is threatening to destroy the government and the world economy in order to get rid of Obamacare (as well as a panoply of other right wing demands). Just as terrorists use the fact that you care more about the lives of the hostages than they do to get leverage, Republican threats rely on believing they don’t care about the consequences, while Democrats do.
So why aren’t they more afraid? Businessweek, hardly a liberal news organization, said the price of default would be “a financial apocalypse” that would cause a worldwide economic depression. This is the sort of thing that affects everyone. Having a right wing ideology doesn’t magically protect your investments from crashing alongside the rest of the stock market.
The willingness of Republicans to take the debt ceiling and the federal budget hostage in order to try to extract concessions from Democrats is probably the most lasting gift that the Tea Party has granted the country. More reasonable Republican politicians fear being primaried by Tea Party candidates. A handful of wide-eyed fanatics in Congress have hijacked the party. The Tea Party base and the hard right politicians driving this entire thing seem oblivious to the consequences. It’s no wonder, since so many of them—particularly those in leadership—are fundamentalist Christians whose religions have distorted their worldview until they cannot actually see what they’re doing and what kind of damage it would cause.
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The press often talks about the Tea Party like they’re secularist movement that is interested mainly in promoting “fiscal conservatism”, a vague notion that never actually seems to make good on the promise to save taxpayer money. The reality is much different: The Tea Party is actually driven primarily by fundamentalist Christians whose penchant for magical thinking and belief that they’re being guided by divine forces makes it tough for them to see the real world as it is.
It’s not just that the rogue’s gallery of congress people who are pushing the hardest for hostage-taking as a negotiation tactic also happens to be a bench full of Bible thumpers. Pew Research shows that people who align with the Tea Party are more likely to not only agree with the views of religious conservatives, but are likely to cite religious belief as their prime motivation for their political views. White evangelicals are the religious group most likely to approve of the Tea Party. Looking over the data, it becomes evident that the “Tea Party” is just a new name for the same old white fundamentalists who would rather burn this country to the ground than share it with everyone else, and this latest power play from the Republicans is, in essence, a move from that demographic to assert their “right” to control the country, even if their politicians aren’t in power.
It’s no surprise, under the circumstances, that a movement controlled by fundamentalist Christians would be oblivious to the very real dangers that their actions present. Fundamentalist religion is extremely good at convincing its followers to be more afraid of imaginary threats than real ones, and to engage in downright magical thinking about the possibility that their own choices could work out very badly. When you believe that forcing the government into default in an attempt to derail Obamacare is the Lord’s work, it’s very difficult for you to see that it could have very real, negative effects....."
The word ADVERTISMENT gives away your post dummy.

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

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#26997 Oct 11, 2013
ChicknButt wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh Holy #$$#@.
All I can do when I hear you spout such nonsense is hang my head and be embarrassed for you.
Well, that and marvel at the fact that you aren't embarrassed yourself for even saying that.
He is probably correct. The Republicans are going to cave and give your dictator everything he wants, so you'll get to one day experience everything you have been wanting.

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

Since: Nov 08

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#26998 Oct 11, 2013
guest wrote:
<quoted text>
When they start throwing "traitor" around (and they do it consistently) they just show how completely foolish they are. Yep if you don't march in lock step to their insane ideology then you're what else but a "traitor". That's why I have zero patience with them. They have lost all sense of reality. But you know what They are still Americans and deserve to express their foolishness as they see fit.
Go Ted Cruz....ROFLMAO
Do you even THINK before you post? The very same thing can be said about you foolish individuals. As I posted to someone else, the Republicans are going to cave and give your dictator everything he wants, SO you will one day get everything you have wished for. Congratulations.

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

Since: Nov 08

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#26999 Oct 11, 2013
guest wrote:
"Why aren’t Republicans more afraid? The entire premise of both the government shutdown and the threats to force the government into debt default is that Democrats care more about the consequences of these actions than the Republicans do. Republicans may go on TV and shed crocodile tears about national monuments being shut down, but the act isn’t really fooling the voters: The only way to understand these fights is to understand that the GOP is threatening to destroy the government and the world economy in order to get rid of Obamacare (as well as a panoply of other right wing demands). Just as terrorists use the fact that you care more about the lives of the hostages than they do to get leverage, Republican threats rely on believing they don’t care about the consequences, while Democrats do.
So why aren’t they more afraid? Businessweek, hardly a liberal news organization, said the price of default would be “a financial apocalypse” that would cause a worldwide economic depression. This is the sort of thing that affects everyone. Having a right wing ideology doesn’t magically protect your investments from crashing alongside the rest of the stock market.
The willingness of Republicans to take the debt ceiling and the federal budget hostage in order to try to extract concessions from Democrats is probably the most lasting gift that the Tea Party has granted the country. More reasonable Republican politicians fear being primaried by Tea Party candidates. A handful of wide-eyed fanatics in Congress have hijacked the party. The Tea Party base and the hard right politicians driving this entire thing seem oblivious to the consequences. It’s no wonder, since so many of them—particularly those in leadership—are fundamentalist Christians whose religions have distorted their worldview until they cannot actually see what they’re doing and what kind of damage it would cause.
ADVERTISEMENT
The press often talks about the Tea Party like they’re secularist movement that is interested mainly in promoting “fiscal conservatism”, a vague notion that never actually seems to make good on the promise to save taxpayer money. The reality is much different: The Tea Party is actually driven primarily by fundamentalist Christians whose penchant for magical thinking and belief that they’re being guided by divine forces makes it tough for them to see the real world as it is.
It’s not just that the rogue’s gallery of congress people who are pushing the hardest for hostage-taking as a negotiation tactic also happens to be a bench full of Bible thumpers. Pew Research shows that people who align with the Tea Party are more likely to not only agree with the views of religious conservatives, but are likely to cite religious belief as their prime motivation for their political views. White evangelicals are the religious group most likely to approve of the Tea Party. Looking over the data, it becomes evident that the “Tea Party” is just a new name for the same old white fundamentalists who would rather burn this country to the ground than share it with everyone else, and this latest power play from the Republicans is, in essence, a move from that demographic to assert their “right” to control the country, even if their politicians aren’t in power.
It’s no surprise, under the circumstances, that a movement controlled by fundamentalist Christians would be oblivious to the very real dangers that their actions present. Fundamentalist religion is extremely good at convincing its followers to be more afraid of imaginary threats than real ones, and to engage in downright magical thinking about the possibility that their own choices could work out very badly. When you believe that forcing the government into default in an attempt to derail Obamacare is the Lord’s work, it’s very difficult for you to see that it could have very real, negative effects....."
It appears that the liberal cut and paste disease is contageous.

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

Since: Nov 08

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#27000 Oct 11, 2013
guest wrote:
"It’s hard for the Christian fundamentalists who run the Republican Party now to worry about the serious economic danger they’re putting the world in, because they are swept up in worrying that President Obama is an agent of the devil and that the world is on the verge of mayhem and apocalypse if they don’t “stop” him somehow, presumably be derailing the Affordable Care Act. Christian conservatives such as Ellis Washington are running around telling each other that the ACA will lead to “the systematic genocide of the weak, minorities, enfeebled, the elderly and political enemies of the God-state.” Twenty percent of Republicans believe Obama is the Antichrist.Washington Times columnist Jeffrey Kuhner argued that Obama is using his signature health care legislation to promote “the destruction of the family, Christian culture”, and demanded that Christians “need to engage in peaceful civil disobedience against President Obama’s signature health care law”.
The United States Conference of Catholic Bishops joined in, demanding that the Republicans shut down the government rather than let Obamacare go into effect. The excuse was their objection to the requirement that insurance make contraception available without a copayment, saying ending this requirement matters more than “serving their own employees or the neediest Americans.”
The Christian right media has been hammering home the message that Christians should oppose the Affordable Care Act. Pat Necerato of the Christian News Network accused the supporters of the law of committing idolatry and accused people who want health care of being covetous. The Christian Post approvingly reported various Christian leaders, including Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council, saying things like the health care law is “a profound attack on our liberties” and lamented “Today is the day I will tell my grandchildren about when they ask me what happened to freedom in America.”
Some in the Christian right straight up believe Obamacare portends the end times. Rick Phillips, writing for Christianity.com , hinted that Obamacare might be predicted in Revelations, though he held back from saying that was certain. Others are less cautious. On the right wing fundamentalist email underground, a conspiracy theory has arisen claiming that Obamacare will require all citizens to have a microchip implanted. While it’s completely untrue, many Christians believe that this means the “mark of the beast” predicted in Revelations that portends the return of Christ and the end of the world...."
Yadda yadda yadda. Blah, blah, blah.

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

Since: Nov 08

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#27001 Oct 11, 2013
guest wrote:
"In other words, the Christian right has worked itself into a frenzy of believing that if this health care law is implemented fully, then we are, in fact, facing down either the end of American Christianity itself or quite possibly the end times themselves. In comparison, it’s hard to be too scared by the worldwide financial collapse that they’re promising to unleash if the Democrats don’t just give up their power and let Republicans do what they want. Sure, crashing stock markets, soaring unemployment, and worldwide economic depression sounds bad, but for the Christian right, the alternative is fire and brimstone and God unleashing all sorts of hell on the world.
This is a problem that extends beyond just the immediate manufactured crisis. The Christian right has become the primary vehicle in American politics for minimizing the problems of the real world while inventing imaginary problems as distractions. Witness, for instance, the way that fundamentalist Christianity has been harnessed to promote the notion that climate change isn’t a real problem. Average global temperatures are creeping up, but the majority of Christian conservatives are too worried about the supposed existential threats of abortion and gay rights to care.
Under the circumstances, it’s no surprise that it’s easy for Christian conservatives to worry more about imaginary threats from Obamacare than it is for them to worry about the very real threat to worldwide economic stability if the go along with their harebrained scheme of forcing the government into default. To make it worse, many have convinced themselves that it’s their opponents who are deluded. Take right wing Christian Senator Tom Coburn, who celebrated the possibility of default back in January by saying it would be a “wonderful experiment”. Being able to blow past all the advice of experts just to make stuff up you want to believe isn’t a quality that is unique to fundamentalists, but as these budget negotiations are making clear, they do have a uniquely strong ability to lie to themselves about what is and isn’t a real danger to themselves and to the world."
Amanda Marcotte is a Brooklyn-based freelance writer and journalist."
Yawn. Just more cut and paste from the liberal braintrusts on Topix.
guest

United States

#27002 Oct 11, 2013
Now wrote:
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Well now dummy, the word "ADVERTISEMENT" gives away your foolish post as a libroid ad.
LOL- gives it away to what? OH you don't know what " " quotation marks mean.
guest

United States

#27003 Oct 11, 2013
And the authors name at the bottom....too funny
Now

Carnesville, GA

#27004 Oct 11, 2013
Synergy wrote:
<quoted text>
It appears that the liberal cut and paste disease is contageous.

more likely you was there for the ads....


He dont think too much of his own opinion, does he?
he must rely on others opinions, poor sucker...
Now

Carnesville, GA

#27005 Oct 11, 2013
guest wrote:
And the authors name at the bottom....too funny

And an opinion by a dummy libroid, surely you can do better in your own words, or maybe not.......

I expect NOT! rofl......
Now

Carnesville, GA

#27006 Oct 11, 2013
Meant to say "more likely he was there for the ads...."

guest

United States

#27007 Oct 11, 2013
< "The conservative hatred of democracy
bykos

The Values Voters summit sure is giving us an unfiltered look inside the conservative mind, and thus far, it shows pure hatred for this thing we have called "democracy".

Perkins & Levin at #VVS13 now say we should get rid of the 17th Amendment: direct election of Senators
—@RightWingWatch
Mark Levin is upset that John McCain, Mark Warner and Tim Kaine answer to voters and not their state legislatures #VVS13
—@RightWingWatch

With 20 of the GOP's 46 senators (soon to be 45 courtesy of New Jersey) packed in just 12 southern states, the party's national appeal withers by the day. Remember the Rule to Rule all Rules: if Democrats vote, they win. So the only way Republicans win is if we don't turn out, or if Republicans increase barriers to voter participation. And what better way to disenfranchise voters than to eliminate popular election for an entire chamber of Congress?
This is about as unmitigated an expression of disdain for democracy as you can get. They know their country is trending away from them. They know they are outnumbered. So now they want to change the rules of our democracy.

Levin: "the left knows they run the country" and use a "top-down, authoritarian, centralized method" #VVS13
—@RightWingWatch

Not sure "the left" runs anything, but yes, Democrats have most of the government, and they should have the House if we were a truly representative democracy. But even though the GOP has stacked the game against us in the House, even their aggressive gerrymandering might not save them in 2014.
And that's what democracy is. Conservatives are suddenly fond of bleating about how this is a Republic blah blah blah minority rights blah blah blah. Yet in the House today, a majority supporting a clean continuing budget resolution can't get a vote.

But in any case, "minority rights" doesn't mean what they think it means: an equal voice in making decisions. Or even more accurately, "the right to have everything go my way otherwise the world economy GETS IT!"

Cruz: House GOPers shut down the government because they are "listening to the people"
—@RightWingWatch

If we've learned one thing the past week, it's that what Ted Cruz and his allies are fighting for is the exact opposite of what the American people want. A truly democratic (small "d") party would take into consideration the deep antipathy for defunding Obamacare and shutting down the government and risking default. But Republicans aren't listening to "what the American people want". They are listening to the histrionics of their dwindling, hysterical base—the discredited fringe of the minority.
All that in just a single morning. Perhaps we shouldn't be surprised, as the Christian Right is inherently undemocratic—there is, after all, nothing more autocratic than the "word of God". And religious fundamentalists have no interest in compromising on their theology, whether their method of destruction is an AK-47 or a government shutdown.

In any case, one last bit of hilarity, from a suddenly self-aware conservative:

I remember when Value Voters was "Road to Victory" #mortalitycheck #VVS13
—@kathrynlopez" >
Now

Carnesville, GA

#27008 Oct 11, 2013
Headline says, "House GOP Blinks: Will Lift Debt AND Reopen Government."

When in reality the headline should say, "House GOP Caves in to everything Obama wants."

including getting rid of the sequester cuts......

The GOP has pretty much assured itself of "low voter turnout support for themselves for 2014."

Assuring again a continued complete libroid gubmint run by socialists......

This guy doesn't vote for wimps...

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/...
guest

United States

#27009 Oct 11, 2013
Ben Carson: Obamacare is “the worst thing that has happened in this nation since slavery”

Too damned funny x2 - the "Values Voter" crowd cheered when he said it.

These folks are trippin'
guest

United States

#27010 Oct 11, 2013
Now wrote:
Headline says, "House GOP Blinks: Will Lift Debt AND Reopen Government."
When in reality the headline should say, "House GOP Caves in to everything Obama wants."
including getting rid of the sequester cuts......
The GOP has pretty much assured itself of "low voter turnout support for themselves for 2014."
Assuring again a continued complete libroid gubmint run by socialists......
This guy doesn't vote for wimps...
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/...
Now that is funny.
Now

Carnesville, GA

#27011 Oct 11, 2013
This is too funny...

"Christmas spirit dies at White House as ornament-hawking gift shop goes broke."

How can anyone believe the elected thieves will buy anything. They probably use layaway until the next 4th generation.....like they do with the debt...

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/oct/...





Now

Carnesville, GA

#27012 Oct 11, 2013
Now wrote:
Headline says, "House GOP Blinks: Will Lift Debt AND Reopen Government."
When in reality the headline should say, "House GOP Caves in to everything Obama wants."
including getting rid of the sequester cuts......
The GOP has pretty much assured itself of "low voter turnout support for themselves for 2014."
Assuring again a continued complete libroid gubmint run by socialists......
This guy doesn't vote for wimps...
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/...


It's time for blistering emails to your reps folks...
Now

Carnesville, GA

#27013 Oct 11, 2013
guest wrote:
<quoted text>
Now that is funny.

It won't be very funny for anyone, including you, if what BigDave says is true...

comrade........

Now

Carnesville, GA

#27014 Oct 11, 2013
"Sen. Pat Roberts, R-Kan., says it's time for Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius to resign for "gross incompetence" over the rocky start to a centerpiece of President Obama's health care law.

It's not unusual for a GOP senator to call on a member of a Democratic Cabinet to resign, or vice versa. But when the senator and the Cabinet secretary hail from the same state, their families have long been friends, and the senator supported the secretary's confirmation, that's noteworthy.

Sebelius and the Obama administration are taking a lot of blows over the new online health insurance exchanges that launched Oct. 1. Roberts has long been a critic of the health care law, and the computer glitches that have marred the rollout of the online exchanges are his last straw.

"Everything we warned about has come to pass," Roberts said in a statement that was especially critical of Sebelius' much-mocked appearance on The Daily Showwith Jon Stewart. "They can see Obamacare has failed them. We need a secretary who can admit when enough is enough."

Now

Carnesville, GA

#27015 Oct 11, 2013
ROFL>...

"Only 2 People Attend 'Obamacare and You!' Event in South Carolina"

Event was put on by 2 people.
Now that is what I call 100% one on one....


http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/only-2-pe...

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