Informed Opinion

Lehigh Acres, FL

#2405 Jan 20, 2013
Bill in Dville wrote:
<quoted text>"Always the same bullshit, the tax table is the same for all, bullshit."

How is it BS if it's a fact? Because you don't like it and can't figure it out?

"The real tax rate is determined by loopholes and deductions"

The real tax rate is determined by taxable income. Do you know how to arrive at taxable income?

"and rich folks normally pay most tax as capital gains taxes."

What, to you, is "rich"? How much income? Is ANYONE who has capital gains rich?

"And the rich and corporations pay LESS."

Have you ever done ANY research as to the rationale of why the capital gains rate is what it is? Were you paying attention several posts (of mine) ago where it was indicated a household could have gross income of over $100K and be paying an overall tax rate that is LESS than the long term capital gains rate? Or, is that beyond your comprehension level?

Also, I surmise you didn't find out the corporate tax rate. It's higher than what you pay.

"You are ALSO including retired people and disabled people in your numbers."

Correct. Do you know what the % is of those that don't pay any federal income tax? The vast majority of people that don't pay federal income tax are not retirees and disabled people. BTW, lots of retired people pay federal income taxes, as do lots of disable people.

"actully payed"???

Would that, by chance, be "actually paid"? You really should check your posting before submitting, you're looking even worse than you "sound"...

BTW, how's that no withholding on income over $117K thing going? IF you happen to know someone that makes over $117K per year, ask them when their federal withholding stopped. They'll look at you like you have a third eye in the middle of your forehead (in your case, it might be a five head).

"Sure we need to reduce spending to some degree,"

If you don't believe we have a spending problem, either you're hopelessly clueless or haven't been paying attention (maybe both).

"and its NOT the result of the people who don't make enough to pay income tax, they pay a hell of a lot of other taxes."

So does everybody else. However, for MOST people, federal income taxes are the largest tax item they pay.
All that anger.

Relax, nothing is going to change as long as we keep voting for the same people owned by the same corporations.

This doesn't have to be complicated.

Pick a tax rate, any tax rate, and make everyone pay the same tax rate on all income from all sources:
wages, short-term capital gains, long-term capital gains, bonuses, options, grants, hedge fund gains, inheritances, gifts, barter. Everything.

No deductions, for anything, anytime, for anyone.

How hard is that ?

How can that be "unfair"

Let's call it the "RFT" - the Really Fair Tax.

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#2407 Jan 20, 2013
Amazing how people can't address simple questions, unless they're beyond one's level of comprehension...

Cya.

“Shadowville All-Stars”

Since: Dec 08

Columbus, GA

#2408 Jan 20, 2013
ME II wrote:
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Obviously you have never been to Albany... or ALL-BENNY as they call it...
Interestingly, I've been considering a road trip over to Albany to look for used book and record stores and so on... do you know of any there, and their locations/

On Google, it seems most things like that are on Dawson Street?

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Galactic Nacho

Douglasville, GA

#2410 Jan 21, 2013
Bill in Dville wrote:
Amazing how people can't address simple questions, unless they're beyond one's level of comprehension...
Cya.
The topix won't let me say it in eenglish for some reason, so in my language it is - No deje que la puerta le golpeů en sus glķteos
Taco taster

Saint Marys, GA

#2411 Jan 21, 2013
Amazing this thread is alive. Maybe the posters are dead.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#2412 Jan 21, 2013
Galactic Nacho wrote:
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The topix won't let me say it in eenglish for some reason, so in my language it is - No deje que la puerta le golpeů en sus glķteos
Your language??? What a laugh. Obviously, YOUR language is English.

"Don't let the door hit him in is buttocks." YOU don't understand his explanation of taxation, either. Perhaps if he sticks around, you "might" learn something.
First name

Blairsville, GA

#2413 Jan 21, 2013
Bill in Dville wrote:
<quoted text>
Both are DIFFERENT types of income and are taxed DIFFERENTLY. Hmmmm. Do you know the rationale why?
Because "he who has the gold makes the rules?"
welcome

Winter Haven, FL

#2414 Jan 21, 2013
Falcons Suck wrote:
<quoted text>
You should be in mourning. Falcons fans are a bunch of animals. The game was only over for a few minutes before one of you freaks stabbed a 49ers fan. Of course we shouldn't be surprised. Any team that would have Michael Vick as their QB would naturally attract animals as fans.
Vick served time and lost millions of dollars for killing dogs. While thats a terrible thing people spend less time and it costs them less to kill certain people. Lots of them folks in Atlanta and they are killed by guns every day, and we just don't care. Welcome to American the Beautiful!
guesswho

Winter Haven, FL

#2415 Jan 21, 2013
Bill in Dville wrote:
Amazing how people can't address simple questions, unless they're beyond one's level of comprehension...
Cya.
You elitist ass! You are obviously a smart person, but that doesn't make you right. You are so wrong, but thatís your constitutional right. You have your view of how the economy and taxation should work and itís not in favor the average working person. The tax code is fine, itís the laws passed by elitist for the benefit of the rich and rich corporations. It makes the effective tax rate much higher for regular working people who make their money working, thatís a fact. So you stick your elitist nose in the air and talk down to people who you view as stupid. Book smarts only goes so far, you are a pitiful excuse for a human with little common sense.

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#2416 Jan 21, 2013
guesswho wrote:
<quoted text>
You elitist ass! You are obviously a smart person, but that doesn't make you right. You are so wrong, but thatís your constitutional right. You have your view of how the economy and taxation should work and itís not in favor the average working person. The tax code is fine, itís the laws passed by elitist for the benefit of the rich and rich corporations. It makes the effective tax rate much higher for regular working people who make their money working, thatís a fact. So you stick your elitist nose in the air and talk down to people who you view as stupid. Book smarts only goes so far, you are a pitiful excuse for a human with little common sense.
Obama will save you.
jeb stuart

Jesup, GA

#2417 Jan 21, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
All that anger.
Relax, nothing is going to change as long as we keep voting for the same people owned by the same corporations.
This doesn't have to be complicated.
Pick a tax rate, any tax rate, and make everyone pay the same tax rate on all income from all sources:
wages, short-term capital gains, long-term capital gains, bonuses, options, grants, hedge fund gains, inheritances, gifts, barter. Everything.
No deductions, for anything, anytime, for anyone.
How hard is that ?
How can that be "unfair"
Let's call it the "RFT" - the Really Fair Tax.
it could be that it would not be 'fair' to them because it would just be too simple.it would not take a bunch of 'ivy leaguers' to figure out.
Galactic Nacho

Douglasville, GA

#2418 Jan 21, 2013
guesswho wrote:
<quoted text>
You elitist ass! You are obviously a smart person, but that doesn't make you right. You are so wrong, but thatís your constitutional right. You have your view of how the economy and taxation should work and itís not in favor the average working person. The tax code is fine, itís the laws passed by elitist for the benefit of the rich and rich corporations. It makes the effective tax rate much higher for regular working people who make their money working, thatís a fact. So you stick your elitist nose in the air and talk down to people who you view as stupid. Book smarts only goes so far, you are a pitiful excuse for a human with little common sense.
This gringo says the truth.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#2419 Jan 21, 2013
welcome wrote:
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Vick served time and lost millions of dollars for killing dogs. While thats a terrible thing people spend less time and it costs them less to kill certain people. Lots of them folks in Atlanta and they are killed by guns every day, and we just don't care. Welcome to American the Beautiful!
In a lot of cases, animals are nicer than people. At least a person can,for the most part, defend themselves. Anyone who abuses animals and children shouldn't even be allowed to live!
Too bad about Vick losing MILLIONS. Wonder how much he made inflicting and condoning pain on those dogs?. He is a pathetic excuse of a human being.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#2420 Jan 21, 2013
guesswho wrote:
<quoted text>
You elitist ass! You are obviously a smart person, but that doesn't make you right. You are so wrong, but thatís your constitutional right. You have your view of how the economy and taxation should work and itís not in favor the average working person. The tax code is fine, itís the laws passed by elitist for the benefit of the rich and rich corporations. It makes the effective tax rate much higher for regular working people who make their money working, thatís a fact. So you stick your elitist nose in the air and talk down to people who you view as stupid. Book smarts only goes so far, you are a pitiful excuse for a human with little common sense.
Well, thank Allah we can all relax. Obama is going to save us; especially the middle class. We can all breathe a sigh of relief.
Lived there

Blairsville, GA

#2421 Jan 21, 2013
Call it by any other name, the "fair tax" is still a consumption tax.
Lived there

Blairsville, GA

#2422 Jan 21, 2013
Synergy wrote:
<quoted text>
In a lot of cases, animals are nicer than people. At least a person can,for the most part, defend themselves. Anyone who abuses animals and children shouldn't even be allowed to live!
Too bad about Vick losing MILLIONS. Wonder how much he made inflicting and condoning pain on those dogs?. He is a pathetic excuse of a human being.
Agreed.
Lived there

Blairsville, GA

#2423 Jan 21, 2013
Synergy wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, thank Allah we can all relax. Obama is going to save us; especially the middle class. We can all breathe a sigh of relief.
It's Congress we have to worry about. Somebody needs to save us from them!
jeb stuart

Jesup, GA

#2424 Jan 21, 2013
Synergy wrote:
<quoted text>
In a lot of cases, animals are nicer than people. At least a person can,for the most part, defend themselves. Anyone who abuses animals and children shouldn't even be allowed to live!
Too bad about Vick losing MILLIONS. Wonder how much he made inflicting and condoning pain on those dogs?. He is a pathetic excuse of a human being.
agree bout vick.anyway,qb is not the problem for the falcons.imo,matt ryan is one of top 5 in the nfl.falcons need a better running game and some more help on defence.i am a little suprised that they won as many games and went as far as did,considering this.
jeb stuart

Jesup, GA

#2425 Jan 21, 2013
Lived there wrote:
<quoted text>
It's Congress we have to worry about. Somebody needs to save us from them!
amen!
formerresident

Decatur, GA

#2426 Jan 21, 2013
Congress is we the people too.

Congress is stuck, because we have been polarized according to political party

And because we have too much paper, too many layers, too much trash.

That has to change. It has to.

Money is green, not red, not blue.

We get money when we begin building here at home, and teach that is what to do. When we return to the heart and spirit behind the laws, that matter too.

Until we do, these are empty words on a sheet of paper. Or worse, empty words in the virtual universe.

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