Columbus Native

Oklahoma City, OK

#21029 Aug 7, 2013
It's a joy to all non-republicans that as time slowly goes by these hardcore republicans on this forum are getting crazier and crazier. This means that many are losing their minds(which thay did'nt have much ) in the first place. They are posting more and more desperate statements and can't stand Obama. They wanted we independents to jump into the fire with mitt(the loser). They are gettig just what they deserve after their monster bush did what he did to our great country. Let all non-republicans keep up the good work and keep them out next election. Thanks to all who voted against romney!
cut and paste

Dahlonega, GA

#21030 Aug 7, 2013
OMTE wrote:
<quoted text>So your dumba$$ is saying it's wrong that we have to have an ID to vote, even though we have to ID for everything else? That is stupid, like you and the rest of your crazy post.
"In the United States, voter ID laws are in place in 30 states.
All Southern states have some form of voter ID requirement.

Due to the Twenty-fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution, which prohibits poll taxes, states that require Voter ID must provide an ID to voters at no cost.[citation needed] At the federal level, the 2002 Help America Vote Act requires a voter ID for all new voters in federal elections who registered by mail and who did not provide a driver's license number or the last four digits of a Social Security number that was matched against government records

In 2007, a report prepared by the staff of the federal Election Assistance Commission found that, among experts, "there is widespread but not unanimous agreement that there is little polling place fraud". The report was based on research conducted by Job Serebov, Republican elections lawyer, and Tova Wang, voting expert from the Century Foundation.The final version released to the public, however, stated that there was "a great deal of debate on the pervasiveness of fraud."Democrats charged that the commission, with a Republican majority, had altered the conclusion for political reasons, which the commission denied."

This whole voter ID thing is politically driven and just more political fodder for the conservatives who are always afraid of something or someone.

" During the George W. Bush administration, "The [Department of Justice] devoted unprecedented resources to ferreting out polling-place fraud over five years and appears to have found not a single prosecutable case across the country"!!

I added the exclamation marks at the end. Fear of someone or something is the driving force behind the conservative movement. You would think being God fearing, gun totting, don't mess with me people, that would not be the case, but it is. The NRA and its supporters the gun manufactures and the military industrial complex in this country all thank you. Poor people and folks less fortunate due to no fault of their on, not so much. And the really funny thing is the group that makes up the majority of the conservative movement have no real money! This is when I should call you stupid, but that's obvious.
Oh my

Blairsville, GA

#21031 Aug 7, 2013
Synergy wrote:
<quoted text>
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
And subsequently, YOU have ignored the specific problem of DEAD PEOPLE voting in the 2008 election.
We just HAVE to stop those cheating radical democrats.
Fox's Voter Fraud Special Light On Voter Fraud
April 22, 2012 3:11 PM EDT
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/04/22/foxs-...

...In promoting on the voter ID laws that Fox News has regularly hyped, Shawn finds only one supposed claim of in-person voter fraud that could have been prevented by such statutes: the allegation that nearly 1,000 "dead" people voted in South Carolina.

...The state's Election Commission director didn't just "dispute those findings"; the commission investigated and debunked them. Reviewing the 207 contested votes from the 2010 election, the commission found that 106 were clerical errors by poll workers, 56 were errors by the DMV, 32 were cases of people being credited as voting when they hadn't, and three were absentee ballots cast by voters who died before Election Day. The commission said they had "insufficient information" regarding the final ten contested votes, but found no evidence of fraud.
==========
http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/20...

Greg Abbott, defending the state’s stalled voter identification law, said in a Fox News interview on July 15, 2012: "What we have proved in Texas is that voter fraud exists. We have more than 200 dead people who voted in the last election -- and we proved that in court in addition to the fact that the voter ID law will have no disenfranchisement effect on the voters in the state of Texas."

Our ruling

Abbott said the recent trial proved that more than 200 dead people voted in the latest elections, the May 2012 party primaries.

But the trial was less conclusive.

To recap: An elections official testified that after comparing a list of 50,000 dead registered voters -- where’s that headline?-- to records of voters in the recent primaries, "we believe" that 239 "folks voted in the recent election after passing away," meaning 239 voters cast ballots using voter registrations of dead Texans. According to his testimony, the state then took the best matches and sought death certificates "for as many of those as we could round up in a short time." Ten death certificates came back and, the official testified, four names, birth dates and Social Security numbers completely aligned on the lists and death certificates.

We can see how this information might raise flags, but we do not see that it proves there were more than 200 dead voters, so to speak. That's because there’s a difference between suspecting fraud and proving it. After all, Abbott's office has been handed the 200-plus matches to investigate.

His claim rates Mostly False.
Oh my

Blairsville, GA

#21032 Aug 7, 2013
Study finds tea party can act as a political ‘racialization’ experience
By Eric W. Dolan
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 18:50 EDT
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/07/17/study-f...

Is the tea party motivated by racial animus over the election of the first non-white president in the United States? Many critics of the conservative movement think so.

Tea party supporters themselves have objected to such claims. They insist their movement is based on legitimate concerns about the size and role of the federal government. The tea party’s fierce opposition to President Barack Obama is only coincidental. They would be just upset if he was all-white rather than half-black.

But new research published June 25 in PLoS One suggests that racial concerns do play a role in support for tea party groups.

...Knowles and his colleagues examined 316 white participants’ racial attitudes, ingroup identity, and identification with tea party over a period of nine months. The researchers found identification with the tea party was associated with anti-black prejudice, libertarian ideology, social conservatism, and belief the nation was in decline.

...“One of the most interesting things for us was that the prejudice-tea party support association was statistically mediated by a sense of national decline — that the U.S. is drifting away from its founding values,” Knowles continued.“In other words, our data suggest that being high in prejudice leads to a sense of decline, which it turn draws whites to the tea party — that is, that the impact of prejudice on tea party identification is indirect. This pattern is consistent with theories in social psychology that talk about how people ‘legitimize’ their biases in terms of more socially-acceptable beliefs. Thus, it’s not socially okay to like the tea party because one is prejudiced. However, if the prejudice gets ‘converted’ into the vague sense that the country is going to hell in a hand-basket, that’s a more principled reason to make political choices.”

The researchers found no evidence that a strong white racial identity lead to identification with the tea party. However, they did find the opposite was true. Those who strongly identified with the tea party movement became more concerned with their racial identity over time.

...“We thought that, in our longitudinal study, whites high in racial identity at Time 1 would show increases in tea party support over the following two time-points. What we found was the opposite — that whites high in tea party support at Time 1 increased white identity over the course of the study. Our evidence tells us that, if anything, getting into the tea party leads to increases in white racial consciousness. As we describe it, the tea party may act as a political ‘racialization’ experience. Whites may get into the movement for race-neutral reasons (e.g., they’re libertarians or social conservatives), but doing so makes being white more important to them.”
Phil Buster

Dahlonega, GA

#21033 Aug 7, 2013
Oh my wrote:
Study finds tea party can act as a political ‘racialization’ experience
By Eric W. Dolan
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 18:50 EDT
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/07/17/study-f...
Is the tea party motivated by racial animus over the election of the first non-white president in the United States? Many critics of the conservative movement think so.
Tea party supporters themselves have objected to such claims. They insist their movement is based on legitimate concerns about the size and role of the federal government. The tea party’s fierce opposition to President Barack Obama is only coincidental. They would be just upset if he was all-white rather than half-black.
But new research published June 25 in PLoS One suggests that racial concerns do play a role in support for tea party groups.
...Knowles and his colleagues examined 316 white participants’ racial attitudes, ingroup identity, and identification with tea party over a period of nine months. The researchers found identification with the tea party was associated with anti-black prejudice, libertarian ideology, social conservatism, and belief the nation was in decline.
...“One of the most interesting things for us was that the prejudice-tea party support association was statistically mediated by a sense of national decline — that the U.S. is drifting away from its founding values,” Knowles continued.“In other words, our data suggest that being high in prejudice leads to a sense of decline, which it turn draws whites to the tea party — that is, that the impact of prejudice on tea party identification is indirect. This pattern is consistent with theories in social psychology that talk about how people ‘legitimize’ their biases in terms of more socially-acceptable beliefs. Thus, it’s not socially okay to like the tea party because one is prejudiced. However, if the prejudice gets ‘converted’ into the vague sense that the country is going to hell in a hand-basket, that’s a more principled reason to make political choices.”
The researchers found no evidence that a strong white racial identity lead to identification with the tea party. However, they did find the opposite was true. Those who strongly identified with the tea party movement became more concerned with their racial identity over time.
...“We thought that, in our longitudinal study, whites high in racial identity at Time 1 would show increases in tea party support over the following two time-points. What we found was the opposite — that whites high in tea party support at Time 1 increased white identity over the course of the study. Our evidence tells us that, if anything, getting into the tea party leads to increases in white racial consciousness. As we describe it, the tea party may act as a political ‘racialization’ experience. Whites may get into the movement for race-neutral reasons (e.g., they’re libertarians or social conservatives), but doing so makes being white more important to them.”
That sure isn't interesting.
Phil Buster

Dahlonega, GA

#21034 Aug 7, 2013
Oh my wrote:
<quoted text>
Fox's Voter Fraud Special Light On Voter Fraud
April 22, 2012 3:11 PM EDT
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/04/22/foxs-...
...In promoting on the voter ID laws that Fox News has regularly hyped, Shawn finds only one supposed claim of in-person voter fraud that could have been prevented by such statutes: the allegation that nearly 1,000 "dead" people voted in South Carolina.
...The state's Election Commission director didn't just "dispute those findings"; the commission investigated and debunked them. Reviewing the 207 contested votes from the 2010 election, the commission found that 106 were clerical errors by poll workers, 56 were errors by the DMV, 32 were cases of people being credited as voting when they hadn't, and three were absentee ballots cast by voters who died before Election Day. The commission said they had "insufficient information" regarding the final ten contested votes, but found no evidence of fraud.
==========
http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/20...
Greg Abbott, defending the state’s stalled voter identification law, said in a Fox News interview on July 15, 2012: "What we have proved in Texas is that voter fraud exists. We have more than 200 dead people who voted in the last election -- and we proved that in court in addition to the fact that the voter ID law will have no disenfranchisement effect on the voters in the state of Texas."
Our ruling
Abbott said the recent trial proved that more than 200 dead people voted in the latest elections, the May 2012 party primaries.
But the trial was less conclusive.
To recap: An elections official testified that after comparing a list of 50,000 dead registered voters -- where’s that headline?-- to records of voters in the recent primaries, "we believe" that 239 "folks voted in the recent election after passing away," meaning 239 voters cast ballots using voter registrations of dead Texans. According to his testimony, the state then took the best matches and sought death certificates "for as many of those as we could round up in a short time." Ten death certificates came back and, the official testified, four names, birth dates and Social Security numbers completely aligned on the lists and death certificates.
We can see how this information might raise flags, but we do not see that it proves there were more than 200 dead voters, so to speak. That's because there’s a difference between suspecting fraud and proving it. After all, Abbott's office has been handed the 200-plus matches to investigate.
His claim rates Mostly False.
Mediamatters sure is a great non-biased source. Ha ha ha ha ha
Calling bs

Van Etten, NY

#21035 Aug 7, 2013
Columbus Native wrote:
It's a joy to all non-republicans that as time slowly goes by these hardcore republicans on this forum are getting crazier and crazier. This means that many are losing their minds(which thay did'nt have much ) in the first place. They are posting more and more desperate statements and can't stand Obama. They wanted we independents to jump into the fire with mitt(the loser). They are gettig just what they deserve after their monster bush did what he did to our great country. Let all non-republicans keep up the good work and keep them out next election. Thanks to all who voted against romney!
You are a reprobate progressive liar, but I repeat myself.
Calling bs

Van Etten, NY

#21036 Aug 7, 2013
Oh my wrote:
Study finds tea party can act as a political ‘racialization’ experience
By Eric W. Dolan
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 18:50 EDT
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/07/17/study-f...
Is the tea party motivated by racial animus over the election of the first non-white president in the United States? Many critics of the conservative movement think so.
Tea party supporters themselves have objected to such claims. They insist their movement is based on legitimate concerns about the size and role of the federal government. The tea party’s fierce opposition to President Barack Obama is only coincidental. They would be just upset if he was all-white rather than half-black.
But new research published June 25 in PLoS One suggests that racial concerns do play a role in support for tea party groups.
...Knowles and his colleagues examined 316 white participants’ racial attitudes, ingroup identity, and identification with tea party over a period of nine months. The researchers found identification with the tea party was associated with anti-black prejudice, libertarian ideology, social conservatism, and belief the nation was in decline.
...“One of the most interesting things for us was that the prejudice-tea party support association was statistically mediated by a sense of national decline — that the U.S. is drifting away from its founding values,” Knowles continued.“In other words, our data suggest that being high in prejudice leads to a sense of decline, which it turn draws whites to the tea party — that is, that the impact of prejudice on tea party identification is indirect. This pattern is consistent with theories in social psychology that talk about how people ‘legitimize’ their biases in terms of more socially-acceptable beliefs. Thus, it’s not socially okay to like the tea party because one is prejudiced. However, if the prejudice gets ‘converted’ into the vague sense that the country is going to hell in a hand-basket, that’s a more principled reason to make political choices.”
The researchers found no evidence that a strong white racial identity lead to identification with the tea party. However, they did find the opposite was true. Those who strongly identified with the tea party movement became more concerned with their racial identity over time.
...“We thought that, in our longitudinal study, whites high in racial identity at Time 1 would show increases in tea party support over the following two time-points. What we found was the opposite — that whites high in tea party support at Time 1 increased white identity over the course of the study. Our evidence tells us that, if anything, getting into the tea party leads to increases in white racial consciousness. As we describe it, the tea party may act as a political ‘racialization’ experience. Whites may get into the movement for race-neutral reasons (e.g., they’re libertarians or social conservatives), but doing so makes being white more important to them.”
The same ole same ole. When will you ever be able to formulate a thought not manufactured by your handlers? Or will you only regurgitate the rantings of der leader and his miscreant disciples?
Oh my

Blairsville, GA

#21037 Aug 7, 2013
Phil Buster wrote:
<quoted text>
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
Mediamatters sure is a great non-biased source. Ha ha ha ha ha
Hey Phil, the joke's on you.

Mdeiamatters is accurately reporting what was reported by Fox News, who were reporting the utterances of Republican SC State Officals, which were shown to be LIES by the report of the SC Elections Commissioner.

Now Phil, here's the REALLY FUNNY part, the Fox News Special report was aired on 03-13-2012, the SC Elections Commissioner's report was released on 02-23-2012. So, either Fox News knew of the report and ignored it, or Fox News was so incompetent that they didn't bother researching their own Special Report.

Either way Fox News got out the message they wanted to feed you, Bon Appetite.
ready for a change

Dahlonega, GA

#21038 Aug 7, 2013
Phil Buster wrote:
<quoted text>
Mediamatters sure is a great non-biased source. Ha ha ha ha ha
What non-biased source do you recommend??
ready for a change

Dahlonega, GA

#21039 Aug 7, 2013
Calling bs wrote:
<quoted text>
The same ole same ole. When will you ever be able to formulate a thought not manufactured by your handlers? Or will you only regurgitate the rantings of der leader and his miscreant disciples?
I am ready for a change, but what I can't understand is you don't put forth any answers. Just seem to me to be a clueless smartass.
Informed Opinion

North Fort Myers, FL

#21040 Aug 7, 2013
cut and paste wrote:
<quoted text>"In the United States, voter ID laws are in place in 30 states.
All Southern states have some form of voter ID requirement.

Due to the Twenty-fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution, which prohibits poll taxes, states that require Voter ID must provide an ID to voters at no cost.[citation needed] At the federal level, the 2002 Help America Vote Act requires a voter ID for all new voters in federal elections who registered by mail and who did not provide a driver's license number or the last four digits of a Social Security number that was matched against government records

In 2007, a report prepared by the staff of the federal Election Assistance Commission found that, among experts, "there is widespread but not unanimous agreement that there is little polling place fraud". The report was based on research conducted by Job Serebov, Republican elections lawyer, and Tova Wang, voting expert from the Century Foundation.The final version released to the public, however, stated that there was "a great deal of debate on the pervasiveness of fraud."Democrats charged that the commission, with a Republican majority, had altered the conclusion for political reasons, which the commission denied."

This whole voter ID thing is politically driven and just more political fodder for the conservatives who are always afraid of something or someone.

" During the George W. Bush administration, "The [Department of Justice] devoted unprecedented resources to ferreting out polling-place fraud over five years and appears to have found not a single prosecutable case across the country"!!

I added the exclamation marks at the end. Fear of someone or something is the driving force behind the conservative movement. You would think being God fearing, gun totting, don't mess with me people, that would not be the case, but it is. The NRA and its supporters the gun manufactures and the military industrial complex in this country all thank you. Poor people and folks less fortunate due to no fault of their on, not so much. And the really funny thing is the group that makes up the majority of the conservative movement have no real money! This is when I should call you stupid, but that's obvious.
Great post.

Right Wing Wackos hate democracy
Informed Opinion

North Fort Myers, FL

#21041 Aug 7, 2013
Phil Buster wrote:
<quoted text>That sure isn't interesting.
Of course not... It involves facts and rational analysis.

But, don't worry - it's not too late to catch the latest episode of "Bridezillas", you'll understand that.
Informed Opinion

North Fort Myers, FL

#21042 Aug 7, 2013
Calling bs wrote:
<quoted text>The same ole same ole. When will you ever be able to formulate a thought not manufactured by your handlers? Or will you only regurgitate the rantings of der leader and his miscreant disciples?
Don't worry.

Facts and reality will never interfere with the Right Wing Wacko fantasy. Right Wingers will never submit to reality, so the fantasies live on.
Informed Opinion

North Fort Myers, FL

#21043 Aug 7, 2013
Synergy wrote:
<quoted text>Just your opinion; nothing more. Typical worthless gobbligook by a union thug.
AND
YOU voted for OBAMA twice AND you support Obamacare.'nuff said.
Wow.

Almost addressed the facts presented, but then, like a good little Right Wing Wacko, ran away shouting gibberish over your shoulder.

Thanks again.

Every post by a Right Wing Wavko is proof of their lunacy.

Informed Opinion

North Fort Myers, FL

#21044 Aug 7, 2013
Synergy wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah......I'M a registered Democrat.(See how stupid you sounded when you lied about being a registered Repubican.) I'm conservative and proud of it!!!!!
YOU should TRY telling the truth sometime. The truth will set you free.
AND
You know what you did.
I am a registered Republican.

Sorry that offends you.

Doesn't it suck to have some rational, normal Americans still in the party.
Informed Opinion

North Fort Myers, FL

#21045 Aug 7, 2013
Synergy wrote:
<quoted text>Nah. You got bested. Give it up.
Is that how it looked from your ward...er ... planet ?
Informed Opinion

North Fort Myers, FL

#21046 Aug 7, 2013
Synergy wrote:
<quoted text>Ahhhh.....the worn out Raaaaaaaaace Card. Too funny. You must be running out of steam AND excuses.
YOU KNOW what YOU DID.

When do you know a liberal has Alzheimer's? When he FINALLY forgets to throw down the race card!
I think you meant

When did we know when Ronnie Ray-Gun had Alzheimer's ?

But that's an old joke, and it's not nice to make fun of sick folks
Informed Opinion

North Fort Myers, FL

#21047 Aug 7, 2013
Synergy wrote:
<quoted text>We ALL know what constitutes a left wing lunatic and IT AIN'T PRETTY FOR OUR COUNTRY.
Case in point: What we have in the WH now!!!!!(AND the left wing looney birds here on Topix.)

You KNOW what you did!
Sorry we didn't join in voting for the New Fuhrer, to rule the "Homeland" and "eliminate" that 47% who live in Union County slurping up all those government funds that otherwise could have been spent on bombs, guns, and war.

But hey... Don't fret ... There's always next time - and if we keep enough Americans from voting - the old white male minority will win.

Welcome to South Africa in the USA.
Informed Opinion

North Fort Myers, FL

#21048 Aug 7, 2013
Synergy wrote:
<quoted text>lol Breitbart is MORE respectable than the sources(when you ACTUALLY post them) you gullible left wing lunatics use. So funny.
Typical Right Wing Wacko.

Hey.. When Breitbart hired those hookers to lie - which "family values" were upheld ?

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