Brown County Sheriff's Dept Corruption
Fact or Fiction

San Angelo, TX

#21 Jun 5, 2013
Amen Outsider! Seeker isn't the kind of person we need being responsible for the safety of us citizens. The fact that he has outed himself as a deputy only proved his stupidity or he would know the consequences of hiz actions should his identity be made known. Besided that, stupidity behind a gun and a badge is a dangerous thing.
Time Lord

Euless, TX

#22 Jun 6, 2013
Fact or Fiction wrote:
Amen Outsider! Seeker isn't the kind of person we need being responsible for the safety of us citizens. The fact that he has outed himself as a deputy only proved his stupidity or he would know the consequences of hiz actions should his identity be made known. Besided that, stupidity behind a gun and a badge is a dangerous thing.
It's not a Deputy. It's a former Jailer who was asked to work a night and couldn't hack working a night shift and quit. He then realized that he screwed up and begged for his job back. And thank goodness they didnt hire the back stabbing whining bitch back. Dees was his former Sgt. and he didn't like her. This former jailer would complain on Dees to the Jail Administrator. The jail administrator would see the the complaint for what it was BS. You see this former Jailer has mental disorders in his family. His daddy went mental when he worked at the Sheriffs Office and got fired as well. So this person has an axe to grind. The road crew bosses have to park their vehicles in the County. So that accusation is BS as well.
As far as take home cars goes. The logic behind that is simple. If a deputy or investigator is called out. The deputy lives in the county. How efficient would it be for the Deputy to drive all the way into Brownwood, get a car then drive all the way back out into the County to respond to an incident. Not fair to the public for response time. As for the Deputies using their issued vehicle to run errands or take their kids to school. Well retard you have to choose. Deputies are on call 24/7. Part of that reason is they have a vehicle. They are obligated to respond without question. If they did not have a take home car then they could not be obligated to respond. So it's not that big of a perk. And it saves money in the long run.
It's not like it a Brownwood PD cop whose response time would not be effected because everything takes place in Bwood.
Suck it up dude. You Fudged up, quit like a little bitch and now you have sour grapes.

Since: Feb 09

Brownwood,TX

#23 Jun 6, 2013
Fact or Fiction wrote:
See my comment on the other thread, Joe.
I suggest you get your facts and/or assumptions correct. I have made NO posts, claims or comments in this thread or the other threads that are ongoing. Let's get the record straight.

Unlike you, if I have something to say I don't have a problem posting under my actual name. It's called integrity and accountability.

FYI... the criminal investigation regarding West and others being conducted by the AG's office is "full steam ahead".
The Truth Seeker

Comanche, TX

#24 Jun 6, 2013
Outsider wrote:
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Says a lot about the character of a person to talke come on a site like this and not only bash his employer, but also air the dirty laundry of fellow employees. More specifically, it speaks to your lack of character and your general lack of fitness to be a deputy. I really hope Grubbs figures out who you are and fires your worthless ass.
This again proves the point, the truth hurts, when you guys can't handle it, your solution is get rid of them, which leaves the Sheriff's to continue the corruption and waste of tax payer money. and by the way, your on this sight too, so I gues this speaks to your character, clueless, worthless and wasting everyone time! Its time for the TRUTH to be told! If you can't handle it, don't reaD IT
The Truth Seeker

Comanche, TX

#25 Jun 6, 2013
Time Lord wrote:
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It's not a Deputy. It's a former Jailer who was asked to work a night and couldn't hack working a night shift and quit. He then realized that he screwed up and begged for his job back. And thank goodness they didnt hire the back stabbing whining bitch back. Dees was his former Sgt. and he didn't like her. This former jailer would complain on Dees to the Jail Administrator. The jail administrator would see the the complaint for what it was BS. You see this former Jailer has mental disorders in his family. His daddy went mental when he worked at the Sheriffs Office and got fired as well. So this person has an axe to grind. The road crew bosses have to park their vehicles in the County. So that accusation is BS as well.
As far as take home cars goes. The logic behind that is simple. If a deputy or investigator is called out. The deputy lives in the county. How efficient would it be for the Deputy to drive all the way into Brownwood, get a car then drive all the way back out into the County to respond to an incident. Not fair to the public for response time. As for the Deputies using their issued vehicle to run errands or take their kids to school. Well retard you have to choose. Deputies are on call 24/7. Part of that reason is they have a vehicle. They are obligated to respond without question. If they did not have a take home car then they could not be obligated to respond. So it's not that big of a perk. And it saves money in the long run.
It's not like it a Brownwood PD cop whose response time would not be effected because everything takes place in Bwood.
Suck it up dude. You Fudged up, quit like a little bitch and now you have sour grapes.
Again, I hope this person contacts me, sounds like he probably has alot of good insight. Its interesting how you are so concerned about trying to find out who this is and not really looking at the actually truth as to what is going on at the Sheriff's Dept. alot of mismanagement, waste and pure hypocrisy. Wow complaints on Dees, it just goes to prove that she is a person that should not be supervising anybody. Again I agree with the actual first responders who do have a responsibility to respond quickly and be on call. You mentioned the road crew is on call 24/7 what are they going to respond to "branches down" "brush in the road" "we need our lawn mowed" Get real, it goes back to your trying to hide the fact of waste, mismanagement and poor judgement on the Sheriff and his Dept. What a joke!
The Truth Seeker

Comanche, TX

#26 Jun 6, 2013
Fact or Fiction wrote:
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A. I am neither married nor am I a supervisor.
B. How is my question off topic when the comment was made (by you) that people living outside the county are taking county vehicles home? I M wondering how far out of county they live. There is a big difference between someone living a few miles inside another county and someone living at the other end of a county.
C. Were you there whem Aaron supposedly took that test? No? Then you are nothing but an old henclucking at.the fencepost.
D. I think you should review the policy on employee relations.
E. I have never seen employees using county vehicles to ride their families around town. The only one I have even seen at a store was the guy who picks up stuff for the jail occassionally from the bread store or Walmart.

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And why shouldn't they be allowed to take the vehicle home? The one down the street from me washes and details his truck on his own time and money and is on call 24/7. I think it is good compensation for the loss of time and freedom that comes from that kind of dedication.
Again, clueless. If you have never seen Sheriff's employees use county vehicles for personal use, maybe you should get out more. So now you are admitting that employees who use county vehicles live out of the county, now your saying "I wonder how far out", the fact is that even if they live one mile out, its one mile that adds up daily, both ways. Again the Jail administrator lives In Comanche County which is several miles away both ways, and the tax payers should not have to pay for this. She should use her own vehicle. And as far as road crew being on call? that's funny. All they are is Jailers in a Truck ! Again, be fair, give everyone a vehicle and pay for their gas, since this is has been the common thread that the Sheriff's Dept. lives by. What a waste!
The Truth Seeker

Comanche, TX

#27 Jun 6, 2013
Outsider wrote:
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Says a lot about the character of a person to talke come on a site like this and not only bash his employer, but also air the dirty laundry of fellow employees. More specifically, it speaks to your lack of character and your general lack of fitness to be a deputy. I really hope Grubbs figures out who you are and fires your worthless ass.
Dirty Laundry, you mean the TRUTH!, it ruffled your feathers, goes to show how truthful this is! People do not get upset and mad if its not the truth!.
Fact or Fiction

San Angelo, TX

#28 Jun 6, 2013
The Truth Seeker wrote:
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Again, clueless. If you have never seen Sheriff's employees use county vehicles for personal use, maybe you should get out more. So now you are admitting that employees who use county vehicles live out of the county, now your saying "I wonder how far out", the fact is that even if they live one mile out, its one mile that adds up daily, both ways. Again the Jail administrator lives In oComanche County which is several miles away both ways, and the tax payers should not have to pay for this. She should use her own vehicle. And as far as road crew being on call? that's funny. All they are is Jailers in a Truck ! Again, be fair, give everyone a vehicle and pay for their gas, since this is has been the common thread that the Sheriff's Dept. lives by. What a waste!
Shows how unobservant you are. Again proof you are unfit to hold any type of job in law enforcement. Are your investigastions this sloppy? You must get tons of cases thrown out for shoddy investigation work. I never "amitted" anything. I am asking you for information. Since it is obvious you have no idea of the Job descriptions involved or who is on call for what purpose, maybe I should stop asking. It is fairly obvious you have no clue.
Outsider

San Angelo, TX

#29 Jun 6, 2013
The Truth Seeker wrote:
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Dirty Laundry, you mean the TRUTH!, it ruffled your feathers, goes to show how truthful this is! People do not get upset and mad if its not the truth!.
I guess by that logic I could say you are a cross dressing prostitite who spends all day in the whiskey bottle and the molests your children on Saturday afternoons and you wouldn't mad, right? Really? I might have been born in the dark, but it wasn't last night!
Time Lord

Euless, TX

#30 Jun 6, 2013
The Truth Seeker wrote:
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Again, I hope this person contacts me, sounds like he probably has alot of good insight. Its interesting how you are so concerned about trying to find out who this is and not really looking at the actually truth as to what is going on at the Sheriff's Dept. alot of mismanagement, waste and pure hypocrisy. Wow complaints on Dees, it just goes to prove that she is a person that should not be supervising anybody. Again I agree with the actual first responders who do have a responsibility to respond quickly and be on call. You mentioned the road crew is on call 24/7 what are they going to respond to "branches down" "brush in the road" "we need our lawn mowed" Get real, it goes back to your trying to hide the fact of waste, mismanagement and poor judgement on the Sheriff and his Dept. What a joke!
Never said anything about road crew being on call. Unsure why they have take home vehicle. The individual Commisioner provides each vehicle. That goes back on the Commisioners not the Sheriff.
When I speak of complaints on Dees, I was referring to the Wimpy Jailer who quit because he was asked to work a night shift.( I think he was scared of the Innates at night boohoo) So that former Jailers credibility is definitely in question based on character alone. The Jail Administrator is a professional who does an excellent job. It's unfortunate that the wages are low for Jailers and they are forced to hire cry babies like you.
I noticed you only voiced your complaints after you quit.

So Mr. Want to be Sheriff. What's your solution to your sour grapes.......I mean complaints. Put on your big boy pants and break it down.

Your complaints are lame. Be a man. Present your findings at a Commissioners meeting. Then you would have to show your back stabbing cowardly face.
The Truth Seeker

Comanche, TX

#31 Jun 6, 2013
Time Lord wrote:
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Never said anything about road crew being on call. Unsure why they have take home vehicle. The individual Commisioner provides each vehicle. That goes back on the Commisioners not the Sheriff.
When I speak of complaints on Dees, I was referring to the Wimpy Jailer who quit because he was asked to work a night shift.( I think he was scared of the Innates at night boohoo) So that former Jailers credibility is definitely in question based on character alone. The Jail Administrator is a professional who does an excellent job. It's unfortunate that the wages are low for Jailers and they are forced to hire cry babies like you.
I noticed you only voiced your complaints after you quit.
So Mr. Want to be Sheriff. What's your solution to your sour grapes.......I mean complaints. Put on your big boy pants and break it down.
Your complaints are lame. Be a man. Present your findings at a Commissioners meeting. Then you would have to show your back stabbing cowardly face.
As you stated,why are road crew driving vehicles off duty then? as you stated they are not all call and other non essential personnel, but I do know again the cost to the county for gas to take the jail adminstrator to and from work (who lives several several miles out of the county. Just last week I saw Martin pick pick up his wife and take her to lunch in the county truck, this is what I'm talking about. But it falls under the Sheriff to present a budget to the commissioners and if things like this were cut out, then possibly employees could get higher wages, the ones that are fighting the crime in the street and the ones that are on call! and by the way, learn how to spell.
Time Lord

United States

#32 Jun 6, 2013
The Truth Seeker wrote:
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As you stated,why are road crew driving vehicles off duty then? as you stated they are not all call and other non essential personnel, but I do know again the cost to the county for gas to take the jail adminstrator to and from work (who lives several several miles out of the county. Just last week I saw Martin pick pick up his wife and take her to lunch in the county truck, this is what I'm talking about. But it falls under the Sheriff to present a budget to the commissioners and if things like this were cut out, then possibly employees could get higher wages, the ones that are fighting the crime in the street and the ones that are on call! and by the way, learn how to spell.
Am I being graded on the content or the spelling?
There is no policy about living in the county? The question is why is the Jail Administrator using a county car and gas . It was probably a condition of hire to lure her into employment. The Sheriff is an elected official and runs the Sheriffs Office the way he wants to. These supposed transgressions are not illegal or unethical, get over it. If the people of Brown County are dissatisfied with the direction of the Sheriffs Office they can let their voice be known at the ballot box. Until then good luck at pissing in the wind. Next time just work the night shift. I get your still kicking yourself over that decision.
Newbie

Comanche, TX

#33 Jun 6, 2013
Time Lord wrote:
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Am I being graded on the content or the spelling?
There is no policy about living in the county? The question is why is the Jail Administrator using a county car and gas . It was probably a condition of hire to lure her into employment. The Sheriff is an elected official and runs the Sheriffs Office the way he wants to. These supposed transgressions are not illegal or unethical, get over it. If the people of Brown County are dissatisfied with the direction of the Sheriffs Office they can let their voice be known at the ballot box. Until then good luck at pissing in the wind. Next time just work the night shift. I get your still kicking yourself over that decision.
Well both, your content and spelling is lacking. You get the grade of F. It sounds like you are trying to get away from the actual discussion, I don't know whom you are talking about or who your trying to say I am, but regardless it takes away from the real issue. Your right the Sheriff does run the office like he wants, Corrupt and with poor decisions. Hopefully by next election the truth will be out. Sounds like you work there, so you should know all the wrong that goes on. And by your response it sounds like I hit the right nerve! Again this does not address the issue of the hard working money from Brown County Tax payers and how we are paying for employees to get to and from work and using county vehicles to cart around family members and who knows who else. Again what is going to happen if someone wrecks in these vehicles, the county is left with the liability. This is why alot of other places, county vehicles are left at the office.
The Truth Seeker

Comanche, TX

#34 Jun 6, 2013
Time Lord wrote:
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Am I being graded on the content or the spelling?
There is no policy about living in the county? The question is why is the Jail Administrator using a county car and gas . It was probably a condition of hire to lure her into employment. The Sheriff is an elected official and runs the Sheriffs Office the way he wants to. These supposed transgressions are not illegal or unethical, get over it. If the people of Brown County are dissatisfied with the direction of the Sheriffs Office they can let their voice be known at the ballot box. Until then good luck at pissing in the wind. Next time just work the night shift. I get your still kicking yourself over that decision.
So you are saying that there is no policy for living in the county, then why were several individuals forced to move into the county? Your a Moron, and can't spell,and by the content of this post, you have no clue or business responding and wasting everyone's time. Its sad that you are trying to "justify" the jail administrator taking a county car AND using county GAS which tax payers pay for as a reason that she took the job. This makes no sense, as if this was the case, if she had this type of Bargaining power she would be making a much higher salary and driving a Brand New Vehicle. Your a bright one (just in case you don't get it this is sarcasm) This is not a justified reason to waste the tax payer money. Again, make it fair, why doesn't the county give everyone a car, all the secretaries, the janitors, the dispatchers, the jailers, etc. How non-feasible does this sound? Exactly just as non feasable as paying for someone to get to and from work when they live in another County!!!!!! COUNTY WASTE AT ITS FINEST!!!!
Time Lord

United States

#35 Jun 6, 2013
The Truth Seeker wrote:
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So you are saying that there is no policy for living in the county, then why were several individuals forced to move into the county? Your a Moron, and can't spell,and by the content of this post, you have no clue or business responding and wasting everyone's time. Its sad that you are trying to "justify" the jail administrator taking a county car AND using county GAS which tax payers pay for as a reason that she took the job. This makes no sense, as if this was the case, if she had this type of Bargaining power she would be making a much higher salary and driving a Brand New Vehicle. Your a bright one (just in case you don't get it this is sarcasm) This is not a justified reason to waste the tax payer money. Again, make it fair, why doesn't the county give everyone a car, all the secretaries, the janitors, the dispatchers, the jailers, etc. How non-feasible does this sound? Exactly just as non feasable as paying for someone to get to and from work when they live in another County!!!!!! COUNTY WASTE AT ITS FINEST!!!!
It's a fact it's not a policy. No one has ever been forced to move as a condition of there job. It is not unusual for heads of departments or administrators to have company cars, private or governmental. Innate to break the news to you but once again these people are on call 24/7 and have to respond on a moments notice. Yes even Jail Administrators. A riot, an in custody death, an escape, a fire, power outage, ecetera . It may need to be an emergency response hence lights and a siren. You can't have it both ways. When you have a company vehicle you have no choice or no excuse not to respond. YOU MUST RESPOND. It's an obligation made real by the possession of a company car. Relax. It's normal. If there was a major incident at the jail and the jail administrator didn't respond, you would complain about that. Why should any employee be obligated to respond , on their off time, if they were not provided with a company vehicle. You can't have it both ways. By the way you forgot to change your name back in this post. Keep whining.
TEXAS

Dallas, TX

#36 Jun 6, 2013
CONTACT THE TEXAS RANGERS
Outsider

San Angelo, TX

#37 Jun 7, 2013
The Truth Seeker wrote:
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So you are saying that there is no policy for living in the county, then why were several individuals forced to move into the county? Your a Moron, and can't spell,and by the content of this post, you have no clue or business responding and wasting everyone's time. Its sad that you are trying to "justify" the jail administrator taking a county car AND using county GAS which tax payers pay for as a reason that she took the job. This makes no sense, as if this was the case, if she had this type of Bargaining power she would be making a much higher salary and driving a Brand New Vehicle. Your a bright one (just in case you don't get it this is sarcasm) This is not a justified reason to waste the tax payer money. Again, make it fair, why doesn't the county give everyone a car, all the secretaries, the janitors, the dispatchers, the jailers, etc. How non-feasible does this sound? Exactly just as non feasable as paying for someone to get to and from work when they live in another County!!!!!! COUNTY WASTE AT ITS FINEST!!!!
You are in no position to criticize anyone's spelling or grammar. Talk about getting off topic. I have investigated the matter thoroughly. The take-home vehicle was agreed upon at the time of thr jail administrator's hiring as an incentive to get her to take the pay cut to come here and straighten out the mess the former administrator had made of the jail.The road crew supervisors have vehicles because they, too, are on call. In the event of flood, tornado, riot, escape, etc... they are called upon to respond in a timely fashion. There is only one of these supervisors who lives out of county. He does take the vehicle home as he lives less than one-half a mile from the Brown County line in a rural area. Road crew trucks would have to be left at the precinct barns, not the S.O. In other words, the supervisor would have to drive to the precinct barn, get the truck, go back to the jail to get the inmates, go back to the precinct to do the work, go back to the jail to take the inmates back, go back to the precinct to park the truck. In the case of the supervisor who lives out of county, he lives closer to the jail then the precinct barn is to the jail. So how exactly is this costing the county more money?

As forfor your complaints regarding Dees and Aaron. In both situations, disciplinary action was taken. If you don't agree with that, too bad! It isn't your call. Sounds to me like you have a bad case of sour grapes.
The truth seeker

Conroe, TX

#38 Jun 7, 2013
Outsider wrote:
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You are in no position to criticize anyone's spelling or grammar. Talk about getting off topic. I have investigated the matter thoroughly. The take-home vehicle was agreed upon at the time of thr jail administrator's hiring as an incentive to get her to take the pay cut to come here and straighten out the mess the former administrator had made of the jail.The road crew supervisors have vehicles because they, too, are on call. In the event of flood, tornado, riot, escape, etc... they are called upon to respond in a timely fashion. There is only one of these supervisors who lives out of county. He does take the vehicle home as he lives less than one-half a mile from the Brown County line in a rural area. Road crew trucks would have to be left at the precinct barns, not the S.O. In other words, the supervisor would have to drive to the precinct barn, get the truck, go back to the jail to get the inmates, go back to the precinct to do the work, go back to the jail to take the inmates back, go back to the precinct to park the truck. In the case of the supervisor who lives out of county, he lives closer to the jail then the precinct barn is to the jail. So how exactly is this costing the county more money?
As forfor your complaints regarding Dees and Aaron. In both situations, disciplinary action was taken. If you don't agree with that, too bad! It isn't your call. Sounds to me like you have a bad case of sour grapes.
Then if time is of the essence if a riot breaks out then the jail administrator should be in the county. Live in the county to respond as quick as possible to the emergency. Again she needs to move to the county or quit wasting tax payer money. And by the way thanks for adding credence to the dees and Aaron situation, like you said disciplinary action was taken and they still work there? Other people who have worked for the sheriffs dept have been in the same situation and have lost their jobs? Fair ? I think not!!!! No consistency in the sheriffs dept what so ever that's why they can't keep themselves fully staffed!!! This demonstrates the lack of consistency and mismanagement.
TEXAS

Dallas, TX

#39 Jun 7, 2013
Call the TEXAS RANGERS
Outsider

San Angelo, TX

#40 Jun 7, 2013
You do not know the full circumstances of any of the situations in which people were fired, allowed to keep their jobs, or otherwise. Neither do I. I do know that some have walked rather than accept disciplinary action as I know one of the people who did that. As for the jail administrator living out of county. As for the jail administrator living out of county, I have no problem with that. As a taxpayer, I would rather pay her gas than force her to uproot her family from their home for a thankless job that doesn't pay her what she is worth for all she has done to turn the jail around from the catastrophe it was under the former administrator. As for response time, I am sure she responds in a timely fashion...after all, she has been there for every emergency the jail has encounted since her hiring. If you are an employee, perhaps the county could let you go to save money. Seems you spend more time on topix than working.

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