Ilion in Fiscal Distress

Ilion in Fiscal Distress

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where do we go from here

New York, NY

#1 Feb 7, 2013
Of the 500 plus recognized villages in New York State only eight have experienced a greater FV tax rate as determined and recorded by the Comptrollers office. This figure if over $6.57 is one of two criteria used to place a municipality on the State Fiscal Distress list , the other is an average general fund balance below 5% of average annual expenditures.The village's FV is $16.04 and Avg GF Fund Bal as % of Expenditures is 8.4%

The Mayor's comments as recorded at the Village's January 9th 2013 Village Board regular meeting stated the following;
"This is budget time and the Village Board will be spending a great deal of time working on the budget for 2013-2014 fiscal year. There will be an increase in the taxes. The current announcement concerning the Village’s bond rating shows that those responsible for the financial aspects of this Village have been doing something correct. There are some large projects coming up this year, that will need attention including the DPW garage, and 2 police vehicles with more than 100,000 miles need replacement, for example. There will be some tough decisions; he added that he did not see cutting back on staff as an option and will do everything possible to not have to do that."

Do you agree with the Mayor? Is this the correct course of action for a village in the financial stress that Ilion currently sees itself?
none

Ilion, NY

#2 Feb 7, 2013
i would to see one of those projects be cleaning up doufold and putting in the Remington Plaza
Werner

New York, NY

#3 Feb 7, 2013
I think Ilion should take a page from the school district merger study and sell off some houses of our senior residents, as well as residents on public assistance of other types. The money from those sales will go a long way towards easing the tax burden. Maybe they can work out a compromise with the merged district, if that vote passes, to split the acquired property between the town and school.
Leaders step up

New York, NY

#4 Feb 8, 2013
A sense of perspective; Utica's average FV tax rate is $15.15 and average general fund balance as a % of expenditures6.4%, very comparible to Ilion's situation and they are facing the possibilty of double digit tax increases 15.9% or layoffs of over 30 personnel.
The Village of Herkimer Mayor has been qouted as saying a Control Board is a very real option.
The Mayor of Ilion, " he added that he did not see cutting back on staff as an option and will do everything possible to not have to do that."
We need leaders to come to the harsh reality that business as usual is no longer substainable, and the reinventtion of how government services are provided needs to be undertaken and implemented.
The schools have come to this reality, now is time for municipalities to do the same.
lol

New York, NY

#6 Feb 9, 2013
Werner wrote:
I think Ilion should take a page from the school district merger study and sell off some houses of our senior residents, as well as residents on public assistance of other types. The money from those sales will go a long way towards easing the tax burden. Maybe they can work out a compromise with the merged district, if that vote passes, to split the acquired property between the town and school.
People on public assistance cant own houses they rent them. You cant have more than 3000 dollars worth of assets. Just how do you think you can take a old persons home from them? Are you stupid!
Werner

New York, NY

#7 Feb 9, 2013
Eminent domain, my friend. The government can seize property if it's necessary for the public good. We can take all the seniors' houses and resell them just as sure as we can set them up in public housing. Have you had the chance to read the merger plan yet? It's all in there.
Werner sir

United States

#8 Feb 9, 2013
Werner wrote:
Eminent domain, my friend. The government can seize property if it's necessary for the public good. We can take all the seniors' houses and resell them just as sure as we can set them up in public housing. Have you had the chance to read the merger plan yet? It's all in there.
would you please cut and paste the (eminent domain)portion of the merger plan.that way ALL can see and read.

turbo
hey turbs

Herkimer, NY

#9 Feb 9, 2013
Werner sir wrote:
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would you please cut and paste the (eminent domain)portion of the merger plan.that way ALL can see and read.
turbo
Turbo do you know this asshool? He claims to be from Ilion. I asked around and no one has heard this clown. Imagine, your name is Werner and no one has heard of you. 98
Werner

New York, NY

#10 Feb 9, 2013
The study is available on the Ilion school district website as a PDF file. It's all right there in black and white: eminent domain allows us to reclaim senior citizens' property for school use, and the merger plan calls for selling it off to finance the new district. Very straightforwards, when you read it.
he is right

Schodack Landing, NY

#11 Feb 9, 2013
Werner wrote:
The study is available on the Ilion school district website as a PDF file. It's all right there in black and white: eminent domain allows us to reclaim senior citizens' property for school use, and the merger plan calls for selling it off to finance the new district. Very straightforwards, when you read it.
It's right under the section in the study that allows us to kill the seniors and take there land whereby averting a possible law suit down the road.
Werner

New York, NY

#12 Feb 9, 2013
Citizens, do not listen to this crazy man. Your elderly will not be harmed! Merely relocated. Under eminent domain, they cannot sue the merged school district for taking their land. Legal precedent is very clear and on the side of the government in this respect.

Again, I promise you: SENIORS WILL NOT BE HARMED.
Jnelly

Schodack Landing, NY

#13 Feb 9, 2013
The young people are doing a great job getting the word out using humorous threads. I have to say it caught my attention. My friends and I are in our 70's and you kids have our vote. We realize the state aid (funding) is a mess and we believe time is needed to fix the funding situation. We feel the merger money is going to provide the kids with a good education while buying the needed time to fix state aid. The merger money will also provide taxpayers some relief too, by holding our taxes at a constant rate for the next 5 to 10 years at least. I'm writing letters addressing our state aid concerns to several politicians, today and every day until someone listens. Keep doing what you're doing kids. We'll do our part too.
Werner dopey

Warrensburg, NY

#14 Feb 12, 2013
Werner wrote:
I think Ilion should take a page from the school district merger study and sell off some houses of our senior residents, as well as residents on public assistance of other types. The money from those sales will go a long way towards easing the tax burden. Maybe they can work out a compromise with the merged district, if that vote passes, to split the acquired property between the town and school.
Check my IP.......I'M IN CORTLAND!!! YEEEE HEEEE
yea right

Utica, NY

#15 Mar 1, 2013
no one knows how to
Taxpayers Unite

New York, NY

#16 Mar 6, 2013
Werner Very Stupid

Syracuse, NY

#17 Mar 6, 2013
Werner dopey wrote:
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Check my IP.......I'M IN CORTLAND!!! YEEEE HEEEE
No you aren't. You can use any IP you want. You are local. it's easy to look yours up.
Imagine

New York, NY

#18 Mar 6, 2013
http://todaynews.today.com/_news/2013/03/06/1...

This is the type of innovation that is needed locally.
lost souls

Utica, NY

#19 Mar 6, 2013
Taxpayers Unite wrote:
What does this say Dave?
Yes we can

New York, NY

#20 Mar 17, 2013
Budget negotiations are being kept close to the vest by the Mayor and Village Board. The only public disclosure is that Budget talks did take place, with no mention of any detail in the minutes or press. The Administration's first response was to acknlwoledge that a tax increase will take place and to over ride the 2% property cap.
Residents and taxpayers should look at the positive fiscal results of the recent school merger and apply similair expectations to its municipal government and services.
Governor Cuomo has strongly stated and indicated on several occasions during State budget talks that local mandate relief will not be readily forth coming.He has suggested that towns and Villages could and should get their financial house in order through consolidation.
Metro and or County Government is the only viable option left in an economicaly depressed area. The services of education,fire and police, as well as major infrastructure improvments such as water, sewer, and roads are to large and costly for small villages( a few thousand property owners), to adequately finance.
There is going to have to be a change in the hearts and minds as to how public/ government services are provided. Parachiolism is going to have to be replaced with cooperation and trust.
If it can be done in providing our childrens education, then surely we can come together for other public and quality of life issues.
lost souls

Utica, NY

#21 Mar 17, 2013
Yes we can wrote:
Budget negotiations are being kept close to the vest by the Mayor and Village Board. The only public disclosure is that Budget talks did take place, with no mention of any detail in the minutes or press. The Administration's first response was to acknlwoledge that a tax increase will take place and to over ride the 2% property cap.
Residents and taxpayers should look at the positive fiscal results of the recent school merger and apply similair expectations to its municipal government and services.
Governor Cuomo has strongly stated and indicated on several occasions during State budget talks that local mandate relief will not be readily forth coming.He has suggested that towns and Villages could and should get their financial house in order through consolidation.
Metro and or County Government is the only viable option left in an economicaly depressed area. The services of education,fire and police, as well as major infrastructure improvments such as water, sewer, and roads are to large and costly for small villages( a few thousand property owners), to adequately finance.
There is going to have to be a change in the hearts and minds as to how public/ government services are provided. Parachiolism is going to have to be replaced with cooperation and trust.
If it can be done in providing our childrens education, then surely we can come together for other public and quality of life issues.
I attended a couple of the village budget meetings. They were open to the public so I am not sure what this person (or Dave Murray) is talking about. Get off your lazy backsides and go to the meetings. What all this other gibberish is in relation to I has no meaning to me.

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