Ilion Electrical Customers Being Fed BS

Ilion Electrical Customers Being Fed BS

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Fleeced

New York, NY

#2 Apr 12, 2013
Ugh wrote:
Interesting occurance last night with the thunderstorm that went through. Not so long ago, the Arms and Ilion Light made an agreement that Ilion Light would provide power to Remington at a much lower cost than NatGrid. Remington could receive electrical service from the Ilion Municiple grid at a reduced rate thereby keeping Remington in Ilion by saving money blah, blah, blah. You know the rhetoric.
Guess what? The National Grid equipment that failed over in Frankfort last night during the storm knocked out the power to.... drum roll please....Remington Arms. No houses in Ilion lost power, just the Arms. Now how can that be? Especially with the rate increase we all had to take so that equipment could be ugraded to accomodate Remington's demand. Appreantly it was all a lie to increase OUR rates as residential users. Most likely because of the bloated salaries and benefits that the Electric Department gets they we ar epaying for.
More Ilion Utility and Village Board Bull Shit!
The "interesting occurance" was the BS propaganda by the Mayor and Board at the Public Budget hearing.With the exception of Trustee Moore who was a no show.
Ilion Resident

New York, NY

#3 Apr 13, 2013
Spring break week for school=time away. Should have chosen another date so public could attend budget hearing. Maybe Moore was away too!
Watching

New York, NY

#4 Apr 13, 2013
Ilion Resident wrote:
Spring break week for school=time away. Should have chosen another date so public could attend budget hearing. Maybe Moore was away too!
Date set by law. Something one should think about when running for public office.
Collea also should ponder her public role,missed two budget negotiation meetings.
Ilion Resident

New York, NY

#5 Apr 13, 2013
Date specific date set by law is file by date not public hearing date according to NYS website. Why not a week earlier? Newspaper sounds like Collea maybe the only one asking some questions and representing the taxpayers. By the way have you noticed how many times the Mayor misses meetings?
End Result

New York, NY

#6 Apr 14, 2013
Ilion Resident wrote:
Date specific date set by law is file by date not public hearing date according to NYS website. Why not a week earlier? Newspaper sounds like Collea maybe the only one asking some questions and representing the taxpayers. By the way have you noticed how many times the Mayor misses meetings?
Representation by All is very weak.Although Collea may be asking the questions, she is not getting the answers.By missing and not attending crucial budget discussions she is severly handicapping her cause and effectiveness.
Have her questions regarding the investigation of a Village employee and subsequent 58 hours of Attorney fees been answered?
She and other Trustees can best represent the people by first showing up and secondly by taking action and exception to not receiving answers from the Mayor or Deputy Mayor.
Ilion Resident

New York, NY

#7 Apr 14, 2013
"She and other Trustees can best represent the people by first showing up and secondly by taking action and exception to not receiving answers from the Mayor or Deputy Mayor."

What does this post even mean End Result? If you attended meetings you would find that questions get asked but answers are hard to come by.
how to be a leader

New York, NY

#8 Apr 14, 2013
Ilion Resident wrote:
"She and other Trustees can best represent the people by first showing up and secondly by taking action and exception to not receiving answers from the Mayor or Deputy Mayor."
What does this post even mean End Result? If you attended meetings you would find that questions get asked but answers are hard to come by.
Minutes reflect that attendence by certain Trustees and Mayor are chronic and lacking, especiallly during critical issues such as Fire and Police negotiations.
If Trustees are not being given satisfactory answers or forthcoming information they need to hold the Mayor, Departmentheads or whomever to account. If current Trustees are not aware how to do this, like I said they may want to rethink their roles in public service.
Any one can ask questions, true representation and leadership are getting results!
Ilion Resident

New York, NY

#9 Apr 14, 2013
"If Trustees are not being given satisfactory answers or forthcoming information they need to hold the Mayor, Departmentheads or whomever to account. If current Trustees are not aware how to do this, like I said they may want to rethink their roles in public service.
Any one can ask questions, true representation and leadership are getting results!"

You would think that anyone could ask questions however this by law and according to attorneys is not the case. The Mayor holds the power to unfortunately control what can and can't be done. Remember that in June of 2014 when you vote for your next Mayor.(Deputy Mayor Neale has said she is a candidate. She unfortunately looks to be a Mayor Stephens clone)
electric customer

Syracuse, NY

#10 Apr 14, 2013
Ilion Resident wrote:
Date specific date set by law is file by date not public hearing date according to NYS website. Why not a week earlier? Newspaper sounds like Collea maybe the only one asking some questions and representing the taxpayers. By the way have you noticed how many times the Mayor misses meetings?
What an uninformed individual you are (not surprising because you fit in with the rest). The Mayor is present for more meetings than the rest and that is inclusive of his battle with cancer. I would like to see you or any of the others that post on here show up after what he has been dealing with.
Ilion Resident

New York, NY

#11 Apr 14, 2013
You say he has cancer yet he snowmobiles, goes to the MCL, hangs at the fire station and the list goes on. He doesn't appear to be having any kind of treatment where most cancer patients are required to. The mayor has all kinds of ailments so who knows what's really true. I'm not sure who has more "physical problems" the mayor or the deputy mayor. What a pair!
electric customer

Syracuse, NY

#12 Apr 14, 2013
Ilion Resident wrote:
You say he has cancer yet he snowmobiles, goes to the MCL, hangs at the fire station and the list goes on. He doesn't appear to be having any kind of treatment where most cancer patients are required to. The mayor has all kinds of ailments so who knows what's really true. I'm not sure who has more "physical problems" the mayor or the deputy mayor. What a pair!
Until you know for sure then why don't you keep your uninformed opinions to yourself? He does go to the MCL (drinks water or soda), spends time at all the village departments (all the VB members should give it a try),and if he rides a snowmobile then more power to him. If he feels well enough to do whatever makes him happy then more power to him. You on the other hand would probably crawl into a ball and want people to feel sorry for you. Yes I am a good friend of his and proud of it!! He has the best interests of the village in mind unlike a couple other VB members who are being told what to do by political/village groups for their own benefit.
electric customer

Syracuse, NY

#14 Apr 15, 2013
Totally Disgusted wrote:
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And it's OK when riding his snowmobile that he gets into an accident and hurt bad enough to be air lifted out at the tax payers expense???? He was speeding and driving recklessly and no charges were filed? It never made the papers?
Yeah he has the interest of the village in mind. More like his own interests and damn everybody else.
Nothing like having all his village employees cover up the incident because he continues to cover for them with more tax increases so they can have huge salaries and 100% benefits and of course votes.
You make me laugh because you keep proving my point. How on earth is the fact that he got hurt and transported to the hospital (no matter how) have anything to do with being at the expense of the taxpayers? It was in the papers and on the news duh! It was investigated and he was not speeding or driving recklessly. Again, people like you have no clue and don't bother to get the facts, just want to spew the bullshit around on here to whatever favors your opinions.

How would employees cover up a snowmobile accident that occurred out of the area? You are grasping at nothing but air to make your case.
Behind the curtain

New York, NY

#15 Apr 15, 2013
Totally Disgusted wrote:
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And it's OK when riding his snowmobile that he gets into an accident and hurt bad enough to be air lifted out at the tax payers expense???? He was speeding and driving recklessly and no charges were filed? It never made the papers?
Yeah he has the interest of the village in mind. More like his own interests and damn everybody else.
Nothing like having all his village employees cover up the incident because he continues to cover for them with more tax increases so they can have huge salaries and 100% benefits and of course votes.
Taxpayers should be more concerned about the local and public cover up.58 hours of legal fees that where exhuasted in an "investigation" of an Ilion public employee,that according to the Deputy Mayor resulted in no wrong doing or disciplinary action taken.She and the Mayor refuse to divulge the nature of the investigation or the person involved,as well as what tax payer funds, property, or interests may have been jeopardized.
You talk about protection of friends, employees, and self at the expense of the taxpayer,how about going into Executive Session under the guise of "litigation" or "personnel".
Neither of these are legitimate reasons to enter into Executive Session according to Open Meeting law legislation.

With no accountability things will not change.
Mr Watts

United States

#16 Apr 15, 2013
ALL valley power....Frankfort, Ilion, Herkimer, Mohawk, etc is delivered by National Grid High Voltage Lines. These main lines run north of the canal. Each municipality has a substation tapped into these lines. Ilion power is on a separate "leg" and substation...Remington and Frankfort are on a different "leg" and substation....that is the leg that went down on Thursday night. No mystery here...other than the fact that National Grid doesn't know that a tree falling on high voltage feeder lines will make VERY BRIGHT flashes in the sky..........
actaully involved

Syracuse, NY

#17 Apr 15, 2013
Behind the curtain wrote:
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Taxpayers should be more concerned about the local and public cover up.58 hours of legal fees that where exhuasted in an "investigation" of an Ilion public employee,that according to the Deputy Mayor resulted in no wrong doing or disciplinary action taken.She and the Mayor refuse to divulge the nature of the investigation or the person involved,as well as what tax payer funds, property, or interests may have been jeopardized.
You talk about protection of friends, employees, and self at the expense of the taxpayer,how about going into Executive Session under the guise of "litigation" or "personnel".
Neither of these are legitimate reasons to enter into Executive Session according to Open Meeting law legislation.
With no accountability things will not change.
Behind the curtain is a perfect name for you. As with most of the others that post here you are afraid to make any statements in public and have no knowledge of what goes on except what you make up in your head or grab from the rumor mill and expound on.
Mr Watts

United States

#20 Apr 15, 2013
Ugh wrote:
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Then why did the Ilion village Board and the nitwit mayor sell it like we had to absorb costs to 'hook Remington up to Ilion power'.
Then that was followed up by Remington will be saving money by this move so they can stay in New York to lower electrical costs?
According to your desciption of the 'legs', it's all Bullshit from the VB because Remington isn't on the village leg of municipal power.
The cost was hooking them up....doesn't matter what leg. The cost was likely additional transformers and substation components. But you are right...Ilion paid because they wanted to keep them in Ilion...they just decided to get the money from the Ilion ratepayers....not from Remington.
wondering

Feeding Hills, MA

#21 Apr 19, 2013
so what's the real deal?
URUninformed

Clinton, NY

#22 Apr 20, 2013
Ugh wrote:
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Then why did the Ilion village Board and the nitwit mayor sell it like we had to absorb costs to 'hook Remington up to Ilion power'.
Then that was followed up by Remington will be saving money by this move so they can stay in New York to lower electrical costs?
According to your desciption of the 'legs', it's all Bullshit from the VB because Remington isn't on the village leg of municipal power.
At your next VB meeting at Stewarts please tell us how you would run the village and the Light dept. You are so ignorant you must think Ilion has a direct power line right the main electric grid. What ever you do DO NOT ATTEND a village board meeting because then you would get facts not the foolish rants that you have here.
URUninformed

Clinton, NY

#23 Apr 20, 2013
Mr Watts wrote:
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The cost was hooking them up....doesn't matter what leg. The cost was likely additional transformers and substation components. But you are right...Ilion paid because they wanted to keep them in Ilion...they just decided to get the money from the Ilion ratepayers....not from Remington.
There has been no rate increase as a result in Ilion providing power to Remington and any upgrades needed will be funded by Remington by way of paying for the power.
please tell

Feeding Hills, MA

#24 Apr 20, 2013
watts the real deal?

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