Mon towns to promote tourism

Mon towns to promote tourism

There are 31 comments on the O-R Online story from Jul 24, 2009, titled Mon towns to promote tourism. In it, O-R Online reports that:

Six Mid-Mon Valley communities are joining hands to better promote their tourism destinations.

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harry

United States

#21 Jul 22, 2010
River barges are built in Brownsville. They are towed down the river and money flows upstream. That money floods thru the local economy ,but so far has not resulted in revitalization.

The river is the reason most of those towns ever existed and the steel industry used the rivers to create products that created a flood of money in the Mon Valley. But that was yesterday.

It took big investment to create that money flood. The USA makes very little steel from ore now. They melt scrap with electric arc furnaces and a river is not required for transport of electricity.

When big money finds a reason to invest in that valley of little towns, money will flood the valley again. But retail trade does not raise the prosperity. It gathers local money and sends most of it someplace else.

Liggett thought he would bring some out of town money to Brownsville, but that plan didn't work out. He's sorry he ever heard of Brownsville now.
Local leaders think the tourists will flock to see the Cast Iron Bridge once the town is torn down to expose it. Also Bowman's Castle that was renamed for an Indian guide who may have never actually lived at the site of Nemacolin's Castle.

I have no ideas. Maybe cut a deal with Liggett to get the slots open and the wheels turning. Tell him you are sorry and hold a parade. Maybe some of the tourists will take a look at the historic landmarks after they lose their money?

There is nothing that bores the young like history. I grew up in the Brownsville area.

Terminator

Monongahela, PA

#22 Jul 22, 2010
well wrote:
Dear "It can happen"
I love your ideas and enthusiam- but I see NO HOPE in revitalizing the Mon Valley. The Monongahela river floods something fierce- I know all too well - and it is going to continue to do so with the Cheat Lake Dam - and the Pittsburgh T - and how the locks are handled. I could go into detail about the flooding situation - but that is the truth. Also, Too many oldsters in the valley - and our school districts are not very, how should I say A+- so - not many young families CHOOSE to stay here - or even come here. Not enough jobs- period- older homes without what the young families want - a little yard - more than one bathroom - and a two car garage! Rostraver is building - and that is great - but the rest of the valley is suffering something fierce. Wait until the new census numbers come out - yikes - Nobody lives here anymore! Sadly!!!
Wrong!

Duquesne University did a population study and it has leveled and is expected to grow. Property values, universities, technology and culture are all draws to the PGH area and will spill over. Now some towns are more poised than others that is for sure. Some towns may never recover while others will do better like Monongahela, Elizabeth and some others that either have a location advantage or they are just still nice places to live. It will take time but people with dollars are begininng to see investment opportunities while many other areas in the country are bust. Do not forget people with money never pay top dollar they look for bargains that can be turned around. I could go on but have little time. Don't be so pessimistic. By the way the lock in Elizabeth is still coming out. No more floods.
peacelove

Monongahela, PA

#23 Jul 22, 2010
If there was any chance of improvment left, I could see this area being a tourism site. we have the mon river that can be used for boating, jet sking, we have history with the steel mills we are close to other communities. There is alot of positves left here, we just need to clean up... (the drugs and rif raf would be a good start) think positve and positve things can happen
I think

United States

#24 Jul 23, 2010
If you have never been on the Valley part of the Mon, it is another world, one you would never suspect exists in this area. There is a paddle boat dinner trip scheduled soon. I don’t know the details but if anyone is interested, reply to the posting and I will get the info and post it. A very nice 3 hours trip.
EXACTLY

Belle Vernon, PA

#25 Jul 23, 2010
peacelove wrote:
If there was any chance of improvment left, I could see this area being a tourism site. we have the mon river that can be used for boating, jet sking, we have history with the steel mills we are close to other communities. There is alot of positves left here, we just need to clean up...(the drugs and rif raf would be a good start) think positve and positve things can happen
There are many positives in the valley- but we need more YOUNG people and YOUNG families and that is just not going to happen, sorry to say. WHY? Because people do not want to live in the kind of houses in most of the valley, do not want their kids going to the local school districts, and
we have no jobs in the area! What IS the draw? Seriously!

Here are my thoughts:

Elect officials who have a plan to move FORWARD.

Get ACTIVE Chamber of Commereces to WORK TOGETHER.

ADVERTISE events better in the local paper and in church bulletins.

Change the mentality around here that it is not only about the old folks!(Which is difficult when the average age of the valley is 45- truly - it is!)

Get our school districts in shape from top to bottom.

Clean up the riff raff!

Clean up the down towns! If there are closed businesses, make sure they at least look decent from the outside!

Start shopping and support the busineses that are HERE!

Clean up your own property!

Have some pride in your community!

The river area along the MON is great! We have a boat so I can attest to that! Why then do we not have things like the Gateway Clipper coming down to the Aquatoriom and host an event?

All these things take WORK - and that is something that MOST PEOPLE do not want to do! They would rather sit back and watch this valley become a near ghost town!

So, spread the word to those with POWER - local officials- and all government - WE NEED HELP to get this community growing - not just surviving - but THRIVING!
harry

United States

#26 Jul 23, 2010
I agree that living along the river with a boat in the water is a nice life for most of every year, but I had to leave that area where my family had lived for nearly 200 yrs even though I didn't want to go. Jobs, good paying jobs will bring good times back. Tour boats will pass right by most of those small towns and carry the pocket money with them.

Now here's an idea. The New River Gorge bridge on US 19 in WV has a bridge day every year. They close the bridge and bungy jumpers come from all over the world to jump off that bridge and thousands come to watch them. All of them leave money behind when they go. They stay in motels and they buy meals. etc.

There is a new bridge across the MON near Brownsville. Maybe it can be rented from the turnpike. They rent the road to movie makers.

The traffic can be detoured thru Brownsville and maybe some money will drop along the way. Tour boats can watch the action from the water.

Oh, well , maybe not? I told you, good ideas are rare. I haven't seen one yet.
the valley

Belle Vernon, PA

#27 Jul 23, 2010
Terminator wrote:
<quoted text>
Wrong!
Duquesne University did a population study and it has leveled and is expected to grow. Property values, universities, technology and culture are all draws to the PGH area and will spill over. Now some towns are more poised than others that is for sure. Some towns may never recover while others will do better like Monongahela, Elizabeth and some others that either have a location advantage or they are just still nice places to live. It will take time but people with dollars are begininng to see investment opportunities while many other areas in the country are bust. Do not forget people with money never pay top dollar they look for bargains that can be turned around. I could go on but have little time. Don't be so pessimistic. By the way the lock in Elizabeth is still coming out. No more floods.
WRONG?!?!?!?

Go to wikipedia and take a look at the population decline over the years for Monongahela, Charleroi, and Monessen - just to name a few! It gives the figures for 2000 and I have seen estimates for 2010 and they are far WORSE - so the writer is correct. The population is down and the industry is down- and the area still floods! Cheat Lake area stays nice and full for tourism and boating, etc.- then when they get rain in that area and open the dam, etc- it floods here. Why? Because the Monongahela river flows north- and the valley gets it! Also- the valley gets it because it is ON A RIVER! The locks can only do so much- and they do not want Pittsburgh to get it because of the T. So- flood the valley. Hard to build up the area when that happens. All along the Mon river in the valley from New Eagle to California it is just beautiful- especialy the Roscoe area. Take a boat ride sometime- it is great. But, it is hard to ask anyone to put money out there for businesses and events when there are NO PEOPLE - and the people that are here are mostly 45 or older. It is a statistical fast. I would LOVE to see that change- but without jobs here- people will continue to leave. As sad as that is. And it is very sad because this is a beautiful area of the country! I was born and raised here and it breaks my heart to see the population go down and families split apart by miles and miles because they can not find jobs in this area! If anyone can help - I am all for it!
Terminator

Belle Vernon, PA

#28 Jul 23, 2010
the valley wrote:
<quoted text>
WRONG?!?!?!?
Go to wikipedia and take a look at the population decline over the years for Monongahela, Charleroi, and Monessen - just to name a few! It gives the figures for 2000 and I have seen estimates for 2010 and they are far WORSE - so the writer is correct. The population is down and the industry is down- and the area still floods! Cheat Lake area stays nice and full for tourism and boating, etc.- then when they get rain in that area and open the dam, etc- it floods here. Why? Because the Monongahela river flows north- and the valley gets it! Also- the valley gets it because it is ON A RIVER! The locks can only do so much- and they do not want Pittsburgh to get it because of the T. So- flood the valley. Hard to build up the area when that happens. All along the Mon river in the valley from New Eagle to California it is just beautiful- especialy the Roscoe area. Take a boat ride sometime- it is great. But, it is hard to ask anyone to put money out there for businesses and events when there are NO PEOPLE - and the people that are here are mostly 45 or older. It is a statistical fast. I would LOVE to see that change- but without jobs here- people will continue to leave. As sad as that is. And it is very sad because this is a beautiful area of the country! I was born and raised here and it breaks my heart to see the population go down and families split apart by miles and miles because they can not find jobs in this area! If anyone can help - I am all for it!
First Monongahela area does not get lumped with Donora Monessen and Charleroi. Some of those towns will never recover. There are things happening here that you are obviously missing. Your stats are already outdated. Keep reading history. But if I were you I would consider sticking around awhile.
seven

Monongahela, PA

#29 Jul 24, 2010
This area does have potential. I also agree with Terminator. I grew up in Roscoe, and spent all of my summers on the river. It does seem that the Roscoe section of the Mon is the nicest. There are some nice sections in Stockdale as well. Mon City area is more productive and less of a dump than Charleroi, Monessen, and Donora not by much though. At least they still take advantage of the river. One of the problems are the historic society, mostly in Charleroi. They are affraid of change and want to save all the buildings and keep them the way they are. Business owners have offered to bring jobs, and money to Charleroi but the historic society shut them down. Look at the old Wards building. A doctor wanted to come in and offered to buy it and guaranteed jobs (Roughly 200-300 I believe) but they turned him down. Once we get the historic society to open their eye's and let new business's in we will be going in the right direction. What business wouldn't want to come here?! Look at it just on the tax side alone. What you would pay in taxes as a business owner for 3/4 of a year here, equals the same you would pay in Allegheny County in a months time!!
scan

Eugene, OR

#30 Jul 24, 2010
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seven wrote:
This area does have potential. I also agree with Terminator. I grew up in Roscoe, and spent all of my summers on the river. It does seem that the Roscoe section of the Mon is the nicest. There are some nice sections in Stockdale as well. Mon City area is more productive and less of a dump than Charleroi, Monessen, and Donora not by much though. At least they still take advantage of the river. One of the problems are the historic society, mostly in Charleroi. They are affraid of change and want to save all the buildings and keep them the way they are. Business owners have offered to bring jobs, and money to Charleroi but the historic society shut them down. Look at the old Wards building. A doctor wanted to come in and offered to buy it and guaranteed jobs (Roughly 200-300 I believe) but they turned him down. Once we get the historic society to open their eye's and let new business's in we will be going in the right direction. What business wouldn't want to come here?! Look at it just on the tax side alone. What you would pay in taxes as a business owner for 3/4 of a year here, equals the same you would pay in Allegheny County in a months time!!
Joe

Greenville, PA

#31 Jul 25, 2010
Mona wrote:
I was born in 1943 in Charleroi-which was the most thriving town of them all- 3 movie theaters, clothing, shoe stores, groceries, everything was there. Sad to see it now- but many ideas could save it- including the cruise up the river from Pittsburgh with stops at dinner destinations in different towns. The river is an asset. Put in a nightclub with local live entertainment, We had the clubs with live bands and dancing in those days.(Of course we had good music then)(Just had to say it) The touristy type stores needs to reopen- give people free rent to start business. Ask for grants from gov. to restore the appearance of the towns. A return to the past when people were innovative. Promote fishing again in the area especially fly fishing. Lots of ideas.
Doesn't have to be a wasteland unless people let it happen....Some things can be tried without big dollars. So city fathers, make a call out to entepreneurs- and make them an offer they can't refuse.....
Set your alarm clock Mona and wake up

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