Budget woes push area schools to hike...

Budget woes push area schools to hike taxes

There are 38 comments on the Valley News Dispatch story from Jul 4, 2010, titled Budget woes push area schools to hike taxes. In it, Valley News Dispatch reports that:

School districts across the state have been forced to tighten their belts this year because of shrinking revenues and ballooning costs.

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holiday1

Latrobe, PA

#1 Jul 4, 2010
Latrobe school district taxes going up 4.5 mils?
I wish someone would pay for my pension plan losses.
White Lightning

Mckeesport, PA

#2 Jul 4, 2010
Don't forget how much money the Teacher's unions
give to support the democratic (socialist) party.
I served a 4 year apprenticeship & at least another 2 or 3 years additional training, including classes at Penn State. So why is it in today's world only the politicians & teachers (only a 4 year degree) deserve raises & anything else they need at our expense. After all, teachers
only work 9 months a year & the politicians work less than 1/3 of that.
dravosburg guy

Latrobe, PA

#3 Jul 5, 2010
sounds like you think that teachers and politicians have it better than you, any possibility of you getting retrained to become a teacher so you can enjoy the alleged perks? or perhaps you can eliminate any morals or conscience that you have and enter the world of politics?
Mister Owl

United States

#4 Jul 5, 2010
White Lightning wrote:
Don't forget how much money the Teacher's unions
give to support the democratic (socialist) party.
I served a 4 year apprenticeship & at least another 2 or 3 years additional training, including classes at Penn State. So why is it in today's world only the politicians & teachers (only a 4 year degree) deserve raises & anything else they need at our expense. After all, teachers
only work 9 months a year & the politicians work less than 1/3 of that.
Welfare paid for your training,& don't forget the food stamps.
raym

Pittsburgh, PA

#5 Jul 5, 2010
Mister Owl wrote:
<quoted text>Welfare paid for your training,& don't forget the food stamps.
Typical liberal, attack the messenger, not the message. Are you a teacher?
White Lightning

Mckeesport, PA

#6 Jul 5, 2010
Glad to see you think you know so much, wise-ass.
You must be a political prostitute or one of those
4 year wonders yourself. I never saw any welfare
in my life. Did daddy pay for your tuition & support while you wasted time getting that degree ? It seems from your childish attacks, he also wasted his money.

I would waste too much time 'retraining' to become a teacher only to lose way too much money per year.
Plus I couldn't stand being around all those liberal-left wing moonbats that make up most school
administrations today.
Mister Owl

Wexford, PA

#7 Jul 5, 2010
White Lightning wrote:
Glad to see you think you know so much, wise-ass.
You must be a political prostitute or one of those
4 year wonders yourself. I never saw any welfare
in my life. Did daddy pay for your tuition & support while you wasted time getting that degree ? It seems from your childish attacks, he also wasted his money.
I would waste too much time 'retraining' to become a teacher only to lose way too much money per year.
Plus I couldn't stand being around all those liberal-left wing moonbats that make up most school
administrations today.
No worked & paid all my way through life.Maybe DADDY will throw you out of his house,& you can get a job as a long winded know it all.Sound like a political BITCH!!!!
Mister Owl

Wexford, PA

#8 Jul 5, 2010
raym wrote:
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Typical liberal, attack the messenger, not the message. Are you a teacher?
Ditto,are you a kiss ass?
raym

Pittsburgh, PA

#9 Jul 5, 2010
Mister Owl wrote:
<quoted text>Ditto,are you a kiss ass?
No I'm just a right-wing-wacko gun nut. See ya' on the range
dravosburg guy

Latrobe, PA

#10 Jul 5, 2010
so, by your own account, the amount of money that teachers make must pale in comparison to what you make, even though most experienced teachers have a masters degree, so is the grass really greener?
White Lightning

Mckeesport, PA

#11 Jul 5, 2010
Mister owl, first you're from West Mifflin , now it's Pittsburgh. You sound like one those whiners'sitting down in mommy's cellar playing on the computer & spanking your monkey all day. I am capable of coming down to your level & calling names, I normally ignore booger-eating trolls that
attack other posters when they can't dispute the facts. And as far as the 'B!tch' thing goes , did your mother just come in the room & were you talking to her ?

Masters ? Most of them, doubtful. It's still a 9 month a year job, holidays off with pay, personal days paid, collect checks & work under the table during the summer. I believe teachers deserve a very decent pay, but anything over $60 grand a year
is a bit overboard. And they should have to pass yearly & random drug tests like the rest of us.
paid holiDAZE

Latrobe, PA

#12 Jul 5, 2010
Check the data on experienced teachers (10 yrs+) and I think you'll agree with me on the most have a masters or M. Eq--holidays off with pay is irrelevant and arguable because its a yearly salary based upon 183-188 days of work--obviously your data about MOST working under the table in the summer is merely opinion based upon maybe a dozenteachers you know, not factual in the least---also again, if teaching is "The Job" then people should dedicate the time, effort and money to become a teacher or resign themselves to being envious of those who have
Mister Owl

United States

#13 Jul 6, 2010
raym wrote:
<quoted text>
No I'm just a right-wing-wacko gun nut. See ya' on the range
No,you're the WACKO who does sit ups with a target on your chest,on the range. SEE YA'
Mister Owl

United States

#14 Jul 6, 2010
White Lightning wrote:
Mister owl, first you're from West Mifflin , now it's Pittsburgh. You sound like one those whiners'sitting down in mommy's cellar playing on the computer & spanking your monkey all day. I am capable of coming down to your level & calling names, I normally ignore booger-eating trolls that
attack other posters when they can't dispute the facts. And as far as the 'B!tch' thing goes , did your mother just come in the room & were you talking to her ?
Masters ? Most of them, doubtful. It's still a 9 month a year job, holidays off with pay, personal days paid, collect checks & work under the table during the summer. I believe teachers deserve a very decent pay, but anything over $60 grand a year
is a bit overboard. And they should have to pass yearly & random drug tests like the rest of us.
Does your MOTHER make $60 grand a year,on her street corner?Do you get your facts from the NATIONAL INQUIRER?
Bias

Pittsburgh, PA

#15 Jul 6, 2010
dravosburg guy wrote:
sounds like you think that teachers and politicians have it better than you, any possibility of you getting retrained to become a teacher so you can enjoy the alleged perks? or perhaps you can eliminate any morals or conscience that you have and enter the world of politics?
If this guy got retrained he would never be hired. The Educatioanal
Establishment has a bias against grads who previously worked in the private sector and are over 30 years of age. I worked at VW and witnessed this with our engineers who retrained to become educators. None of them got jobs in PA as physics or math teachers- blatant discrimination.
guru

Latrobe, PA

#16 Jul 6, 2010
Bias wrote:
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If this guy got retrained he would never be hired. The Educatioanal
Establishment has a bias against grads who previously worked in the private sector and are over 30 years of age. I worked at VW and witnessed this with our engineers who retrained to become educators. None of them got jobs in PA as physics or math teachers- blatant discrimination.
Not the case,the dept head of GLSD math worked in private industry for years so there is the counterexample to disprove your hypothesis. Making blanket statements about an entire system and using a sample size of only a few or a dozen people, rather than 1000's, will generally lead to a result of "disproven."

If anything, perhaps exactly the OPPOSITE of whatyou claim is true- PA appears to be luring those same engineers into the classroom with their "alternative certification" and "guest teacher" programs. And if you were familiar with the current shortage of Physics teachers...

Anyway, many people continue to accuse teachers of having it so good, but at the same time, they manufacture reasons why they refuse to become teachers and share in the "riches." As Bo would say, "Just Do It".
Here Now

United States

#17 Jul 6, 2010
It absolutely amazes me that teachers will continue to defend their excess wages and benefits. Why do you think that people are speaking out on here. THEY CAN NOT AFFORD HIGHER TAXES!!! Do you get it? People are not willing to pay more for luxury pension plans when the people paying have no such thing. Get real. Pay for your own pension and quit expecting it from someone else just because you went to college. The only reason that you have those plans is because the legislature has tilted the tables in your favor. That is the bottom line. Make the playing field level and the tax payers will take care of the rest.
holiday1

Latrobe, PA

#18 Jul 6, 2010
Here Now wrote:
It absolutely amazes me that teachers will continue to defend their excess wages and benefits. Why do you think that people are speaking out on here. THEY CAN NOT AFFORD HIGHER TAXES!!! Do you get it? People are not willing to pay more for luxury pension plans when the people paying have no such thing. Get real. Pay for your own pension and quit expecting it from someone else just because you went to college. The only reason that you have those plans is because the legislature has tilted the tables in your favor. That is the bottom line. Make the playing field level and the tax payers will take care of the rest.
AMEN!!
Age Discrimination in Ed

Pittsburgh, PA

#19 Jul 7, 2010
guru wrote:
<quoted text>
Not the case,the dept head of GLSD math worked in private industry for years so there is the counterexample to disprove your hypothesis. Making blanket statements about an entire system and using a sample size of only a few or a dozen people, rather than 1000's, will generally lead to a result of "disproven."
If anything, perhaps exactly the OPPOSITE of whatyou claim is true- PA appears to be luring those same engineers into the classroom with their "alternative certification" and "guest teacher" programs. And if you were familiar with the current shortage of Physics teachers...
Anyway, many people continue to accuse teachers of having it so good, but at the same time, they manufacture reasons why they refuse to become teachers and share in the "riches." As Bo would say, "Just Do It".
The Age Discrimination in Employment Act of 1967 (ADEA) protects individuals over the age of 40 from being discriminated against in the workplace as a result of their age. This law is administered by the EEOC, which helps to protect individuals over the age of 40 who either apply for a position or are already employed. In accordance with ADEA, it is unlawful to discriminate against a person because of his/her age with respect to any term, condition, or privilege of employment – including, but not limited to, hiring, firing, promotion, layoff, compensation, benefits, job assignments and training ( eeoc.gov ).

An employer does have a strictly enforced loophole around the Age Discrimination in Employment Act. If an employer can demonstrate that the age of the applicant is a bona fide occupational qualification for the position in question, the employer does not have to follow the ADEA. For example, a school district may argue that running and jumping is a bona fide occupational qualification for a gym teacher. The school district in question could state the gym teacher must be able to run a mile in 10 minutes or less and have a vertical jump of at least two feet.

Age discrimination can also affect the quality of teacher a school district hires for their school. With shrinking budgets and mandates from the legislature to reduce class size, many school districts have found ways to cope. Many times school districts will hire a less qualified candidate to save money. For example, a first or second year teacher makes considerably less money than a teacher with 20 years of experience with a Masters degree.

Age discrimination only applies to an organization with 20 or more employees, employment agencies, labor organizations and the federal government. For an employee to bring about an age discrimination case:

1) Individual is within the protected age group – over 40 years of age.

2) Individual is doing satisfactory work.

3) Individual was discharged even though the quality of work was adequate.

In addition, employers must be aware that turning away a candidate well overqualified for a position may violate the Age Discrimination in Employment Act. For instance, a scientist from NASA may have a hard time becoming a chemistry teacher in a public school setting. If the school district revokes his application for the teaching position because he/she is overqualified for the position, legal action may be warranted. In fact, the court system has already ruled on many occasions that organizations should take special care in revoking older applicants who are overqualified for a position because it may simply be masking age discrimination.
speak out

Latrobe, PA

#20 Jul 7, 2010
Here Now wrote:
It absolutely amazes me that teachers will continue to defend their excess wages and benefits. Why do you think that people are speaking out on here. THEY CAN NOT AFFORD HIGHER TAXES!!! Do you get it? People are not willing to pay more for luxury pension plans when the people paying have no such thing. Get real. Pay for your own pension and quit expecting it from someone else just because you went to college. The only reason that you have those plans is because the legislature has tilted the tables in your favor. That is the bottom line. Make the playing field level and the tax payers will take care of the rest.
If you believe that asking people why they don't become teachers is defending excess wages, then that is certainly an interesting interpretation and again evades the issue of "If the grass is so green on the other side--why not go there?"

The fact that you think that we should conclude that because about 7 or 8 people have posted their opinions(a voluntary response sample) is another interesting conclusion. If 7 people sign a petition to do "whatever" then should we conclude that their opinions represent the entire population?--obviously no

Anyone could find fault with any occupation--but once again--if teachers have it so good, then why didn't you make the choice to become one? Perhaps, you should encourage your relatives to abandon their careers and enter the perfect world of education--why not??

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